Don't ever let someone tell you God won't heal you.

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South_FLA

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I encourage you to watch this entire video. I learned a lot from it. ANYBODY that went to Jesus was healed completely. Remember that! Other people/Christians don't have the right to tell you God might not or will not heal you. They don't know what God's will is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNd4_f6ZM20
 
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blue_ladybug

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So how do you explain the people who have begged God for DECADES, to heal them and not had their prayers answered??
 

South_FLA

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So how do you explain the people who have begged God for DECADES, to heal them and not had their prayers answered??
That is something between them and God. You can't tell them much.

Proverbs 2:3-6
Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;

If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.

For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
 
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So how do you explain the people who have begged God for DECADES, to heal them and not had their prayers answered??
Most important thing is don't tell yourself what God's will is for you.
 

South_FLA

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After 40 something years, His will for my healing is fairly obvious.. lol
You're wrong. That mindset of "God won't heal me" is completely unbiblical. Jesus never semi-healed people. He healed them of everything they had. God can heal you of your seizures in this current body. He even raised people from the dead.
 

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How do you explain Paul asking three times for the thorn in the flesh to be removed but God's answer was no?

Did Paul not believe enough?
 

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How do you explain Paul asking three times for the thorn in the flesh to be removed but God's answer was no?
Stop comparing yourself to other people. Unless God tells you "no" himself, you have no business trying to assume what God can't do for you.
 
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How do you explain Paul asking three times for the thorn in the flesh to be removed but God's answer was no?

Did Paul not believe enough?
Probably not.

By that, I mean that just like many of us, he likely doubted that God intends to make anything and everything that happens to us to work out for our eventual good.

Most of us honestly do NOT truly believe God ALWAYS loves us in and through all things. If we did, we would not question His choices and actions, even once.

Did you notice as you watched that movie, that simple fact of doubting God's love for us was really the underlying theme Papa kept bringing back to Mack's awareness, time and time again?
 

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How do you explain Paul asking three times for the thorn in the flesh to be removed but God's answer was no?

Did Paul not believe enough?
The Work of God to Save- john piper

We know this for two reasons. First, because Paul describes the purpose for the thorn in terms of preventing pride. But Satan's whole design is to produce pride not prevent it. That's how he kills: either with pride in what we have done, or despair over what we haven't done. Paul's revelations in Paradise made him vulnerable to pride and self-exaltation. So God uses the hostile intentions of Satan for Paul's holiness. Satan wanted to make Paul miserable and turn him away from the faith and the ministry and the value of the visions he had seen. But God wanted to make Paul humble and turn him away from self-exaltation. So God appointed the thorn of Satan for the work of salvation.

The other reason we know the thorn is God's work and not just Satan's is that when Paul prays in verse 8 that God would take the thorn away, the Lord says, No, because my power is made perfect in this weakness. In other words, I have a purpose in what is happening to you. This is not ultimately Satan's destroying work. It is ultimately my saving, sanctifying work.

Just like it was with Job—God permits Satan to afflict his righteous servant, and turns the affliction for his good purposes. (See also Luke 22:31–32.)

For What Purpose?
What is the purpose of such weaknesses? Is there a goal or an aim for why the weaknesses come? Why insults, hardships, persecutions, calamities, troubles? Why can't I find a job? Why am I trapped in this awful marriage? Why does my dad have cancer? Why can't I have children? Why do I have no friends? Why is nothing working in my life?

Paul gives three brief answers about his own experience and I think they are tremendously important for us to live by.

Satan's Purpose to Buffet You

First, he says that Satan has the purpose to buffet you or harass you (v. 7). And so it is OK to pray for relief. That's what Paul did until he got word from the Lord. Pain is not a good thing in itself. God does not delight in your suffering. Satan does and he must be resisted.

God's Purpose to Humble You

Second, God's purpose over and through Satan's harassment is our humility. Paul was in danger of pride and self-exaltation and God took steps to keep him humble. This is an utterly strange thing in our self-saturated age. God thinks humility is more important than comfort. Humility is more important than freedom from pain. He will give us a mountain top experience in Paradise, and then bring us through anguish of soul lest we think that we have risen above the need for total reliance on his grace. So his purpose is our humility and lowliness and reliance on him (cf. 1:9; 4:7).

God's Purpose to Glorify Jesus

Finally, God's purpose in our weaknesses is to glorify the grace and power of his Son. This is the main point of verses 9–10. Jesus says, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." God's design is to make you a showcase for Jesus' power. But not necessarily the way the market demands: not by getting rid of all our weaknesses; but by giving strength to endure and even rejoice in tribulation.

Let God be God here. If he wills to show the perfection of his Son's power in our weakness instead of by our escape from weakness, then he knows best; trust him. Hebrews 11 is a good guide here. It says that by faith some escaped the edge of the sword (v. 34) and by faith some were killed by the sword (v. 37). By faith some stopped the mouths of lions, and by faith others were sawn asunder. By faith some were mighty in war, and by faith others suffered chains and imprisonment (see also Philippians 4:11–13).

The ultimate purpose of God in our weakness is to glorify the kind of power that moved Christ to the cross and kept him there until the work of love was done. Paul said that Christ crucified was foolishness to the Greeks, a stumbling block to the Jews, but to those who are called it is the power of God and the wisdom of God (1 Corinthians 1:23f.).

The deepest need that you and I have in weakness and adversity is not quick relief, but the well-grounded confidence that what is happening to us is part of the greatest purpose of God in the universe—the glorification of the grace and power of his Son—the grace and power that bore him to the cross and kept him there until the work of love was done. That's what God is building into our lives. That is the meaning of weakness, insults, hardships, persecution, calamity.
 

blue_ladybug

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I never said He won't heal me. I said He hasn't..

You're wrong. That mindset of "God won't heal me" is completely unbiblical. Jesus never semi-healed people. He healed them of everything they had. God can heal you of your seizures in this current body. He even raised people from the dead.
 

blue_ladybug

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But if He healed ALL of us today, right now in a one-time healing deal forever, we would be immortal. We are mortals, in a mortal world. Being immortal in this environment wouldn't work too well..


You're wrong. That mindset of "God won't heal me" is completely unbiblical. Jesus never semi-healed people. He healed them of everything they had. God can heal you of your seizures in this current body. He even raised people from the dead.
 
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A few of you know that I have been told I am going blind.

Now, I don't like that, one bit. But I hope that I will always believe that it is somehow best for me in God's unfathomable plan.

Do I have any idea why or how? Hell no! And I could react in some pretty nasty ways because of it. But, does that change the fact that God still said He loves me, even if He lets me go blind? No, it doesn't. Nor does it change the fact that He may or may not heal me. He still CAN............... but He may not.

The REAL question is, "Do I still keep trusting He is doing what is best for me?".
 

South_FLA

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I never said He won't heal me. I said He hasn't..
Sorry if I misunderstood sis. I just remember you telling me God won't heal you until you get your new body and that just sounded so wrong to me.
 

South_FLA

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But if He healed ALL of us today, right now in a one-time healing deal forever, we would be immortal. We are mortals, in a mortal world. Being immortal in this environment wouldn't work too well..
Just because you're mortal doesn't mean you have to be sick with something.
 

South_FLA

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A few of you know that I have been told I am going blind.

Now, I don't like that, one bit. But I hope that I will always believe that it is somehow best for me in God's unfathomable plan.

Do I have any idea why or how? Hell no! And I could react in some pretty nasty ways because of it. But, does that change the fact that God still said He loves me, even if He lets me go blind? No, it doesn't. Nor does it change the fact that He may or may not heal me. He still CAN............... but He may not.

The REAL question is, "Do I still keep trusting He is doing what is best for me?".
Glad you brought that up bro. Watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiOHBjkth-c
 

JesusLives

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Stop comparing yourself to other people. Unless God tells you "no" himself, you have no business trying to assume what God can't do for you.
You still didn't answer the question about Paul and I am not comparing myself to Paul... as except for getting older and having a few issues I feel pretty good for 62.....no complaints and yes I believe God can heal anyone of anything but is it God's plan and will to do so every time?

God knows each individual and He is in the character building/saving business and He will do whatever it takes to save us.... So if that means someone has to not be healed in order to stick close to God then He might not heal them because if He did they might go off on their own and eventually be lost....

Nope God does what is best to save each individual the way that individual needs to be saved.