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Locutus

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Sure. Its late, and i am ready for bed.

I dont know what time it is where ever you live, but i suggest you do the same
If the blue man is in the UK it's 2 AM Monday morning - living off the pogey no doubt..trolling at the tax payers expense..:p
 
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Jesus was begotten by God and Jesus was born when Mary gave birth to him.

Is this the truth?
 

Huglife

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If the blue man is in the UK it's 2 AM Monday morning - living off the pogey no doubt..trolling at the tax payers expense..:p
wow. 2 am. Its like 10 pm here. I should really go to bed. I got work to do tomorrow :(


Night lovely people.
 
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If the blue man is in the UK it's 2 AM Monday morning - living off the pogey no doubt..trolling at the tax payers expense..:p
In word or deed do all in the name of the Lord.

Isn't this a beautiful verse?
 

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-One will certainly know when they are born again, they will be spirit...

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee,
Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old?
can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water
and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst
not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

-One does not inherit the Kingdom in the flesh...

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

-Flesh and blood are visible. So if you are still flesh and blood,
you have not inherited the Kingdom and therefore are not born again.

1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,
and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Paul explains when, at the last trump. We will be CHANGED to spirit, changed
such that we do not see corruption. Changed to immortal.


For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:53-corruptible:G5349

f?a?t?´?
phthartos
fthar-tos'
From G5351; decayed, that is, (by implication) perishable: - corruptible.
Total KJV occurrences: 6

incorruption:G861

a?f?a?s?´a
aphtharsia
af-thar-see'-ah
From G862; incorruptibility; generally unending existence; (figuratively) genuineness: - immortality, incorruption, sincerity.
Total KJV occurrences: 8

mortal:G2349

???t?´?
thne¯tos
thnay-tos'
From G2348; liable to die: - mortal (-ity).
Total KJV occurrences: 6

immortality:G110

a??a?as?´a
athanasia
ath-an-as-ee'-ah
From a compound of G1 (as a negative particle) and G2288; deathlessness: - immortality.
Total KJV occurrences: 3

It will be quite evident at the resurrection when one is BORN again.
Now if you want to discuss being begotten, that is something that does occur in this lifetime.

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3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
which according to his abundant mercy [hath begotten us] again
unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,


1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible,
by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

-The word used here for "Being born again" is: G313

a??a?e??a´?
anagennao¯
an-ag-en-nah'-o
From G303 and G1080; to beget or (by extension) bear (again): - beget, (bear) X again.
Total KJV occurrences: 2


It means begettal, not birth. If you don't understand the difference, ask your wife,
if she has had children, she will make it very clear to you there is a BIG difference.
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That which is born of the flesh is flesh: in a physical birth, we are physical beings.
But that which is born of the Spirit is spirit: in a spiritual birth, we are spiritual beings!


“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
neither doth corruption inherit incorruption” (I Cor. 15:50).

-Flesh and blood are visible. So if you are still flesh and blood,
you have not inherited the Kingdom and therefore are not born again.

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit
the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

-As long as we have flesh that is subject to decay, we cannot enter the Kingdom.
We enter the Kingdom at the resurrection...

1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

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To be born of the spirit is made plain in this passage...

1Co 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up?
and with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

1Co 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be,
but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
1Co 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof,
but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth:

-wind is invisible, you can not see it.
so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

if you where born again you would be an invisible spirit.
we are begotten not yet born, still growing from that seed he planted in you

2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be:
but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

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The Prophet Daniel wrote of this Kingdom of God.

“And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall
never be destroyed … but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms,
and it shall stand for ever” (Dan. 2:44).

To “stand for ever” it will, of necessity, be a Kingdom of immortals, not mortals.
It will be a world-ruling Kingdom! Daniel’s 7th chapter portrays it again—and shows
the connection with being “born again.” The four world empires—Babylon through
Rome and its coming resurrection in Europe—are pictured as four beasts—wild animals

Verses 17-18: “These great beasts, which are four, are four kings [kingdoms],
which shall arise out of the earth.

But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever,
even for ever and ever.” To possess it for ever, the saints will have to be immortal!

“made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; Until the Ancient of days
[Christ at Second Coming] came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High;
and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom” (vv. 21-22). Read also verse 27.

The Second Coming of Christ is described thus: “And the seventh angel sounded;
and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become
the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever”
(Rev. 11:15).

Jesus said, “Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3).

“That which is born of the flesh is flesh: and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (v. 6).
Man is now flesh—human. He is material substance.

“[D]ust thou art,” said God to Adam, “and unto dust shalt thou return.” Again,
“And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into
his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul” (Gen. 3:19 and 2:7).

Jesus plainly said , when one is born of the Spirit he will BE spirit!
Look at it! Read it in your own Bible.

The Kingdom of God will be composed of spirit beings—not of humans!
When born of the Spirit, one will be delivered from the Church of God (physical)
into the Kingdom of God (a Kingdom of spirit beings!).

Of the next age when the Kingdom of God will rule the world— the next life—Jesus said,
“[T]hey neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God …” (Matt. 22:30).

Marriage is a physical, fleshly union. In the age of God’s Kingdom—when “born again”
we shall be spirit, not flesh. Born of God as spirit beings, no longer human.
Angels are spirits—composed of spirit (Heb. 1:7).

“The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell
whence it cometh, and whither it goeth:so is everyone that is born of the Spirit” (John 3:8).

You cannot see wind. Wind is compared to spirit. It is invisible.
That’s why mortal flesh, as we now are, cannot see the Kingdom of God.
Those who inherit it will be spirit—normally invisible to eyes still human.

The Apostle Paul made clear that the Kingdom of God is something a human
may inherit, but not in this age—not while he is composed of material flesh.
He may, now, become only an heir, not yet an inheritor!

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
neither doth corruption inherit incorruption” (i Cor. 15:50).

Leading up to this verse, Paul had made it very clear. “The first man is of the earth,
earthy [human]: the second man is the Lord from heaven [a divine God Being]” (v. 47).

“And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall [future—resurrection]
also bear the image of the heavenly” (v.-49).

As we are now flesh, we shall be spirit—at the resurrection. That is when we shall be
“born again”—when we shall see, enter into, the Kingdom of God—when we are spirit
—at the resurrection!

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep [be dead], but we shall all be changed,
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,
and the dead shall be raisedincorruptible, and we [the then living] shall be changed” (vv. 50-52).

There is the time when we may be born again—when we may see,
enter into, inherit the Kingdom—when “born again”—and NOT BEFORE!

“For this corruptible”—flesh, as we now are—“must put on incorruption”—
spirit—that which is born of God is spirit—“and thismortal must put on immortality”
—be changed from material flesh to spirit!


Until born again, we cannot see the Kingdom of God
(Jesus to Nicodemus, John 3:3).

Until born again, we cannot enter into the Kingdom of God
(Jesus to Nicodemus, John 3:5).

Until no longer flesh, but changed into spirit, we cannot enter into the
Kingdom of God (Jesus to Nicodemus, John 3:6-8).

While still flesh and blood (as Nicodemus was and we are) we
cannot inherit the Kingdom of God (Paul to the Corinthians, i-Cor.15:50).

Until the resurrection, at Christ’s coming, we shall not be changed
from corruptible flesh into incorruptible spirit (Paul—i Cor. 15:50-53 and verses 22-23).

Until the resurrection, therefore, we cannot see, enter into, or inherit
the Kingdom of God. We cannot be born again untilthe resurrection!
 
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What are they before they become a spirit?

Isn't everyone like you ...a spirit in a body of flesh?
“Now this I say, brethren, that [flesh and blood] cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
neither doth corruption inherit incorruption” (I Cor. 15:50).

-no we are made of dust[dirt]and will return to dust again
you do not have a soul, you are a living soul.
but the spirit in a man makes him different, smarter then animals
 
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“Now this I say, brethren, that [flesh and blood] cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
neither doth corruption inherit incorruption” (I Cor. 15:50).
You are not in the Kingdom of God are you?

Are you in the Kingdom of God?
 
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“Now this I say, brethren, that [flesh and blood] cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
neither doth corruption inherit incorruption” (I Cor. 15:50).

-no we are made of dust[dirt]and will return to dust again
you do not have a soul, you are a living soul.
but the spirit in a man makes him different, smarter then animals
How can you inherit the Kingdom of God. I was thinking that Jesus inherited the Kingdom of God.

Please set me straight?
 

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You are not in the Kingdom of God are you?

Are you in the Kingdom of God?
when we enter his kingdom at the ressuration, we will see him as he really is
face to face, we will partake of the passover with him in person.
 
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when we enter his kingdom at the ressuration, we will see him as he really is
face to face, we will partake of the passover with him in person.
So you do not believe that Jesus has resurrected anyone at this point in time?
Is this true?
 
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Why do these people keep coming on my thread
and saying to me I am Jack and this and that?

They must really hate this person.
 
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I am saying that I am not who you say I am.

Is that plain enough for you?

If not then that is just too bad.
Ooh, bold letters. Temper, temper, child of Satan.
 
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