Not By Works

[JIMBO43]

The Problem with this generation isn't that verse, the problem with this generation, is that is the ONLY very they believe and all verses that specifically say believing to be Saved.

The above verse says whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be Saved, that is TRUE, but this verse does not negate, make void, all the other verses which specifically teach what it takes to be SAVED.

Mar_13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mar_16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

A perfect example of FAITH + WORKS = SAVED. Believing is the Faith part, the getting baptised is the WORK part, but this generation thinks FAITH ONLY is enough, they believe the one verse above, and ignore, void, or interpret away all the other verses that teach what it means to be SAVED.

Joh_10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

So believing is NOT enough, you must ENTER in, to be Saved.

Rom_8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

HOPE and believing are entirely different things.

Rom_10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Yet another verse that plainly teaches FAITH + WORKS = SAVED. Believe that Jesus was raised from the dead= Faith. CONFESS = WORKS

1Co_15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

SAVED if we keep in memory what the Apostle Paul told us. Not believe what he told us, but to keep in memory what he told us, yet another WORK.

So people of this generation teaches that Faith ONLY is enough, yet Scriptures plainly teach that to be SAVED requires Faith AND Works.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

Some one will mock this no doubt.. but well said and amen..

 

[JIMBO43]

Reading the last few pages here give me the impression that at least one needs to put away the wine bottle, get a cup of coffee (or tea), turn off the computer, go into his prayer closet, and spend some quality time with Jesus.

I get the impression you need to grow up an stop spreading fals accusations... or does that come with the terrority of believeing your untouchable and have recieved what no man has recieved yet... there final judgement..

 

[JIMBO43]

Simple a love for God revolves a round our sacrificial obedience to follow his leading. We persevere in our obedience that holds its foundation in faith. A bondservent we sacrifice and deny ourselves to do the will of God. Not because it saves us but because of our love for our creator we are drawn to do his will.

And in his perfection we are to live as Christ and strive to perfection which is the perseverance of obedience to Christ. Because what comes of obedience is God completing the work he does in us. This is why follow is such great importance after we believe.

Dont follow and your faith is fake

mate that is one of the best concepts i have ever herd...

but the reality is here mate is i think some on this thread dont want God,,, because theyve allready had what ever God has to give them,,,
so they dont need nothing else now..

they dont need to follow when theyve recieved there final judgment... they have made it and there more holy than you and i who think works are a good and essential to salvation..

theyve allready declared that there salvation of the final reward the jewel in the crown has allready come there way,,, and so they can retire like the lazy rich farmer whom jesus spoke about...

they have every answer under the book to deny God... like people who fell where never truly saved to begin with,,

mate your beating a dead horse even responding to et and dc.... there hearts are truly hardened,,, there at the point of no return a right pair of mockers and haters of Gods truth..thats all i have to say to them...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I wonder if your continual challenging is just because you have a challenging
nature, nothing to do with faith it is just your personality.

I wonder if we can fully understand our Praise of the King, because when our
hearts soar, they soar in praise and worship.

Amen to anyone who worships God,

For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.
Hosea 6:6

I wonder if you have any desire to get to know anyone at all..

You love to tell people what they believe (even though 90% of the time your wrong)

You love to tell people what they are doing (even though 90% of the time your wrong)

You love to diagnose what others issues are. But you refuse to diagnose your own.

I praise God for those who challenged me and got me to see my flaws. and my pride and my self righteousness..

there was hope for me, So I have to believe there is hope for all.

 

[JIMBO43]

I wonder if you have any desire to get to know anyone at all..

You love to tell people what they believe (even though 90% of the time your wrong)

You love to tell people what they are doing (even though 90% of the time your wrong)

You love to diagnose what others issues are. But you refuse to diagnose your own.

I praise God for those who challenged me and got me to see my flaws. and my pride and my self righteousness..

there was hope for me, So I have to believe there is hope for all.

I wonder when youll stop cussing but i doubt you ever will

 

[JIMBO43]

[h=1]Hebrews 13:16New International Version (NIV)[/h] [SUP]16 [/SUP]And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

 

[PeterJens]

I wonder if you have any desire to get to know anyone at all..
You love to tell people what they believe (even though 90% of the time your wrong)
You love to tell people what they are doing (even though 90% of the time your wrong)
You love to diagnose what others issues are. But you refuse to diagnose your own.
I praise God for those who challenged me and got me to see my flaws. and my pride and my self righteousness..
there was hope for me, So I have to believe there is hope for all.

Praise the Lord, God is the Lord Most High.

It is odd to me that someone who apparently is so much alike in faith is
so antagonistic in spirit. Something definately wrong here.

 

[JIMBO43]

Praise the Lord, God is the Lord Most High.

It is odd to me that someone who apparently is so much alike in faith is
so antagonistic in spirit. Something definately wrong here.

it amaizes me how is mate calls me brother one minute and says he will pray,,, then decides to call me a drunk drinking wine,,, when i was sober ?... i just wonder what happened to his prayer ?

 

[Stephen63]

it amaizes me how is mate calls me brother one minute and says he will pray,,, then decides to call me a drunk drinking wine,,, when i was sober ?... i just wonder what happened to his prayer ?

Perhaps one could see by his fruits he has more experience in judging than he does praying.

 

[Sirk]

Uh oh. The vultures think they spot a fresh carcass as they circle high above. Lol

 

[JIMBO43]

Perhaps one could see by his fruits he has more experience in judging than he does praying.

YUP LIKE I SAID HES A MEAT HEAD LOL....

 

[Sully]

Uh oh. The vultures think they spot a fresh carcass as they circle high above. Lol

or vulture maybe...

 

[JIMBO43]

Uh oh. The vultures think they spot a fresh carcass as they circle high above. Lol

you know the heart speaketh what it knoweth and that is vulgarness...

like you thoughts of vultures ARE FROM YOUR HEAD NOT OURS...

WE are the brotherhood and right now you are with the vultures looking for lies in Gods truth to suit your meathead doctrins of im untouchable... wrong only Jesus is..

you need to hope daily for him to save you...The lords prayer my friend is give us today our DAILY bready so start hoping my friend and feel his power for when he makes the way for you............he is the waymaker.

 

[dcontroversal]

Said like a true sinner who wants the blame bounced on the one who called out their sin. Every sinner & self-righteous hypocrite does that.

So, we see in this thread that you sin & in your eyes, your sin don't stink in the nostrils of God. God just forgives them now & in the future so you sin any way you want.


Maybe you need to go back & read how you egged your brother on in here to sin & sin more, as well as mock him for doing it.



Again, this is deflection of your sin & accusing the one who called you out on your sin. Everyone who doesn't believe in OSAS & Hyp------e gets the same treatment.

You can treat someone like a dog & it's alright, cause your sin don't stink. The epitome of a self -righteous bigot.

Had you not interjected yourself into a conversation without knowing the facts yuo would know his comment was not directed at me pal...second...ALL can see your nothing but mouth....constantly mouthing with zero respect for anyone....so...keep proving who you really are...all can see it clearly.....!

 

[JIMBO43]

are you sure you dont want all to hate him ?

 

[Sirk]

you know the heart speaketh what it knoweth and that is vulgarness...

like you thoughts of vultures ARE FROM YOUR HEAD NOT OURS...

WE are the brotherhood and right now you are with the vultures looking for lies in Gods truth to suit your meathead doctrins of im untouchable... wrong only Jesus is..

you need to hope daily for him to save you...The lords prayer my friend is give us today our DAILY bready so start hoping my friend and feel his power for when he makes the way for you............he is the waymaker.

ya. The Pharisees said the same thing about Jesus. While I'm not Jesus, Pharisees are still Pharisees.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Praise the Lord, God is the Lord Most High.

It is odd to me that someone who apparently is so much alike in faith is
so antagonistic in spirit. Something definately wrong here.

Maybe your thinking? And your view of others? and finally, your view of yourself?

 

[dcontroversal]

are you sure you dont want all to hate him ?

You guys are all a sad joke....We post scripture in context, verbiage in context, verb tense in context and the correct definitions of words and all we get back is mouthy remarks, condemnation and judgment and when we stand up and defend the truth there is no ability from any of you to admit your error and or your verbal diatribe/vitriol or even apologize for being mouthy.....and NONE of us want anyone to hate anyone...You workers for all assume we do nothing for the Lord, you assume we do not repent and confess our sins, you all assume we live like the devil and do as we please because we believe salvation based upon faith thru grace which is BIBLICAL......you ascribe motive, you ascribe intent, you ascribe lifestyles, you ascribe titles and names all the while refusing to acknowledge the very actions you ALL commit disqualifies your working for salvation.....what you need is GRACE and MERCY which came BY JESUS CHRIST through genuine FAITH...................

 

[Sully]

they're workin' hard dcon.

 

[dcontroversal]

they're workin' hard dcon.

I hear ya...........needless to say.......their works will not get them one millimeter off the ground towards heaven.......if anything their gospel which has no power and is double cursed (GALATIANS 1, 3 <--INSPIRED and written by PAUL) will lead them deeper into the flaming pit!