My moneys worth on Cannabis...

[ROSSELLA]

The Truth of the Matter is that Cannabis is a gift from God. What most likely upset him enough to make it illegal was the fact that people who were experiencing the Healing of their Soul, denied the existence of having one. Atheists who smoke cannabis have no excuse not to understand the nature of the Soul.... And the only immoral thing about cannabis is that it has been made illegal

Well, cannabis certainly has medicinal properties, although it's also been tied to schizophrenia and health issues. I'd imagine that for those who need it for medical purposes it is a gift. But as far as I know there are no Bible verses that indicate that cannabis or any other plant heals the soul.

 

[Desertsrose]

Dude do yourself a favor before you find yourself banned. You want to discuss,discuss. But backhanding anyone who might take a different view from you is immature. Thirty isn't the new 16,we're not in high school, and calling people names is beneath a 30yr old. As we use to say in school,act your age and not your shoe size. People come here to discuss,not tell you how right you are.And questioning anyones Christianity that doesn't want to hit a bong with you is beyond immature on your part. Grow up.

Hi Kayla,

Your my sister and I love you, but do you think your comment about your eyes rolling to meet your brain was a kind response? I don't. You provoked an unkind response, not that he should have responded back in kind.

Just because we don't agree with something or understand the OP, doesn't mean we have to make fun of the person, does it?

There are studies that have been done that have proved that cannabis has helped many with cancer. I even have a friend who tried it, but it wiped her out and she had no energy.

In fact, the government is in the process of synthesizing it so that the drug companies can make their money and leave the little guy out of the process.Our state has legalized it for medical purposes. It not only helps cancer, but also helps those with severe chronic pain. I have considered taking it myself. But you can't drive or have a driver's license if you go on medical marijuana. But if sometime in the future I just can't take the pain anymore, I would consider it.

 

[lettucepray]

Kayla, calm down Sister. I'm here for you. I used to have the same rage you did about the use of it. I HATED it i mean HATED IT... and i ADMIT.... The Atheists who abuse this gift are Swine! But for a pastor to ignore my friend and brother who accepted me for who I AM and wrote him off as not worth listening to today was IN THE WRONG. We are ALL sinners. Your sins differ from mine, Mine differ from the next persons, and so on down the line... and all it does is make us HOSTILE and unproductively ticked off at each other instead of enjoying the banquet God invited us to! I pray to God in my room by myself sometimes probably up to twelve times a day, often drenched in tears because this is the JOB I ASKED FOR. I just want to loosen the chains of the oppressed. What made the pastor of my Church so much better than my friend who accepted me with open arms afterwards? God is LOVE. Not anger, lies and war. Please, lets be friends. Errrr... Lettuce* be friends Peace?

 

[peacenik]

Well, cannabis certainly has medicinal properties, although it's also been tied to schizophrenia and health issues. I'd imagine that for those who need it for medical purposes it is a gift. But as far as I know there are no Bible verses that indicate that cannabis or any other plant heals the soul.

As lettucepray wrote, cannabis is a gift from God and was one of the most widely used medicines in ancient times:




The biblical roots of Jews and marijuana - Jewish World Features - Haaretz - Israel News | Haaretz.com




This historical fact is well established and accepted among Jewish scholars in NYC. Bear in mind that Jews and other Hebraic tribes lived in Africa for centuries where they practiced African medicine and hygiene. Cannabis and hydro therapy were the two biggest forms of medical therapy employed by Egyptian and other physicians for many centuries:

Marijuana use in ancient Egypt

 

[Rockrz]

The Truth of the Matter is that Cannabis is a gift from god.

Well, that all depends on WHO yer callin god!

The god of this world is way happy about many getting stoned these days, the God of Heaven teaches us that those who practice intoxication will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

Would you really go to hell for weed???

Surely nobody is that slow...

This historical fact is well established and accepted among Jewish scholars in NYC

It's also historical fact that the Lord has to divorce Israel because they were a whore, a whoring after other gods having left their first Love.

Are you sure you want the fate they experienced?

Sounds like you are well on your way with your dope smokin, kabbala buddies...

 

[lettucepray]

Well, that all depends on WHO yer callin god!

The god of this world is way happy about many getting stoned these days, the God of Heaven teaches us that those who practice intoxication will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

Would you really go to hell for weed???

Surely nobody is that slow...




It's also historical fact that the Lord has to divorce Israel because they were a whore, a whoring after other gods having left their first Love.

Are you sure you want the fate they experienced?

Sounds like you are well on your way with your dope smokin, kabbala buddies...

Thank you for the laugh, lol. I have to agree with you that remaining disciplined in a sober mindset is very important, gluttony is consumption to extreme without Thanksgiving. Sobriety of all kinds is essential because the deceiver lurks around every corner. But answer me this... Are you even aware how high you are right now because of all the food you ate today, yesterday and all last week without denying yourself food and drink?

 

[Chokmahiel]

The Truth of the Matter is that Cannabis is a gift from God. What most likely upset him enough to make it illegal was the fact that people who were experiencing the Healing of their Soul, denied the existence of having one. Atheists who smoke cannabis have no excuse not to understand the nature of the Soul.... And the only immoral thing about cannabis is that it has been made illegal

Heh this is easily the most unique pro-pot argument I have ever seen, I cannot resist commenting on this.

Only thing here that I don't get with this logic is this:

So you conclude that weed being illegal is immoral. But you also say that weed was allowed to be made illegal because atheists, that don't believe in the soul, smoke it. So then how can it be immoral for it to be illegal while atheists still smoke it?

 

[Depleted]

If cannabis was Evil in the Lord's eyes... Why then would it cause you no harm to use it? When you go the pharmacy, you're ingesting poison into your body. Pharmaceuticals completely destroy yourself. I used to hate people who smoked cannabis believe me, i get it. But what i said is not a lie...

It does cause you harm. It has 22 carcinogens more than tobacco, and with regular use your emotional growth flatlines. Start smoking at 13 you remain at a 13 year olds emotional levels for as long as you smoke it. There's a reason people shouldn't drive while stoned. Your reflects are on par with a alcohol level of a DUI. You can't think, and yet you think those crazy thoughts are thinking. Only a stoner in denial can think nothing is wrong with it.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I am so glad they are finally looking into cannabis for medical treatments. It also has 100s of other uses too like textile, soap, paper, some of the strongest rope, etc. I believe that it should be used. But dealing smoking if it was legal we Christian should not take part in it for the same reason we dont drink. Both substances can easily be abused.

 

[shrimp]

It does cause you harm. It has 22 carcinogens more than tobacco, and with regular use your emotional growth flatlines. Start smoking at 13 you remain at a 13 year olds emotional levels for as long as you smoke it. There's a reason people shouldn't drive while stoned. Your reflects are on par with a alcohol level of a DUI. You can't think, and yet you think those crazy thoughts are thinking. Only a stoner in denial can think nothing is wrong with it.

not to mention the tar content.

 

[shrimp]

I am so glad they are finally looking into cannabis for medical treatments. It also has 100s of other uses too like textile, soap, paper, some of the strongest rope, etc. I believe that it should be used. But dealing smoking if it was legal we Christian should not take part in it for the same reason we dont drink. Both substances can easily be abused.

this is EXACTLY where I stand on this.

 

[lettucepray]

Heh this is easily the most unique pro-pot argument I have ever seen, I cannot resist commenting on this.

Only thing here that I don't get with this logic is this:

So you conclude that weed being illegal is immoral. But you also say that weed was allowed to be made illegal because atheists, that don't believe in the soul, smoke it. So then how can it be immoral for it to be illegal while atheists still smoke it?

Hahahaha, i promise you i am completely sober but i cannot stop laughing at your question... I promise i'll explain it the best i can when i stop laughing. Boy, do i need sleep.

 

[peacenik]

It's also historical fact that the Lord has to divorce Israel because they were a whore, a whoring after other gods having left their first Love.

Are you sure you want the fate they experienced?

Sounds like you are well on your way with your dope smokin, kabbala buddies...

1) "divorce Israel"

Read James 1:1 where all 12 tribes were addressed which proves that the Lord did not abandon Israel.


2) Don't know about the Kabbalah but the Bible clearly teaches people to go to the doctor when in need of medical assistance: https://www.gotquestions.org/Christians-go-doctors.html

Thankfully, they were smart enough to use natural medicines as those are true gifts of God.

 

[Chokmahiel]

Hahahaha, i promise you i am completely sober but i cannot stop laughing at your question... I promise i'll explain it the best i can when i stop laughing. Boy, do i need sleep.

Lol understandable, I will await your rebuttal after you have rested and stopped laughing so hard.

Lol also, not making a dig at you, but as an aside the topic and your name reminds me of a local fireman that calls it "hippy lettuce".

 

[lettucepray]

Heh this is easily the most unique pro-pot argument I have ever seen, I cannot resist commenting on this.

Only thing here that I don't get with this logic is this:

So you conclude that weed being illegal is immoral. But you also say that weed was allowed to be made illegal because atheists, that don't believe in the soul, smoke it. So then how can it be immoral for it to be illegal while atheists still smoke it?

Okay, i think i got this. I am seriously tearing up, thank you. You added about ten years to my life right there. lol. I believe it is immoral to persecute someone who with thanksgiving uses the herb, because they acknowledge they have a soul. Law enforcement isnt going to give a rats behind about that though... but God saw that the majority of people who started using it around the time prohibition began were turning their backs on him and denying the existence of WHAT cannabis is.

 

[lettucepray]

Lol understandable, I will await your rebuttal after you have rested and stopped laughing so hard.

Lol also, not making a dig at you, but as an aside the topic and your name reminds me of a local fireman that calls it "hippy lettuce".

*Shudders. Ugh, hippies* ......... I'm Metal. Pure thrash right here.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I tell my wife if i ever get some serious illness im going to be studying up on medical marijuana lol.

Not that i like it. I hate the smell. And i used it once in highschool and hated it. Well i was drunk and high at the same time. Both for the first time being really drunk and really high.

Omg i about died, horrible night, getting attacked by ghosts, running from police, clothes lined by a clothes line, it got me right on my neck and took me off my feet and on my back. I was bleeding ear to ear with a nasty cut, lost body function, had someone use my fingers to help me throw up all that crap.

Stayed sick for like 4 days.

So all of that was because i told God i knew what i was doing. I remember the Spirit trying so hard to stop me from going. I even had a cross necklace i wore all the time, and i took it off and hid it in my pocket. That cross was in my pocket all night.

As i laid there with little function in my hand. I grabbed that cross and held it all night. Because i never blacked out but was conscious even though i couldn't move.

The next morning that cross was indented in my hand.

Needless to say I learned my lesson. God has always taught me the hard way.

 

[Chokmahiel]

Okay, i think i got this. I am seriously tearing up, thank you. You added about ten years to my life right there. lol. I believe it is immoral to persecute someone who with thanksgiving uses the herb, because they acknowledge they have a soul. Law enforcement isnt going to give a rats behind about that though... but God saw that the majority of people who started using it around the time prohibition began were turning their backs on him and denying the existence of WHAT cannabis is.

Well I get your point that it would be immoral to persecute people for it. However then if you conclude that God let it be made illegal because infidels use it, then my question still remains. How can it be immoral for it to remain illegal while the infidel still smokes it?

Let me put it another way. Would it be correct to say under this logic that if the hippy lettuce was made legal again that it should remain prohibited for the infidels to smoke it? Or in yet another way; would it be correct to say that it is moral to keep weed illegal until we can somehow convince all the infidels to cease from smoking it, and then make it legal again should we accomplish that somehow?

 

[Chokmahiel]

*Shudders. Ugh, hippies* ......... I'm Metal. Pure thrash right here.

Lol he is a metalhead too actually, hence the derogatory terming of it as hippy lettuce lol.

 

[lettucepray]

It does cause you harm. It has 22 carcinogens more than tobacco, and with regular use your emotional growth flatlines. Start smoking at 13 you remain at a 13 year olds emotional levels for as long as you smoke it. There's a reason people shouldn't drive while stoned. Your reflects are on par with a alcohol level of a DUI. You can't think, and yet you think those crazy thoughts are thinking. Only a stoner in denial can think nothing is wrong with it.

You are not without valid point, but be careful you don't COMPLETELY crucify the truth about it... There are no known "carcinogens" in cannabis. Cancer is not NEARLY the Death Sentence people think it is, only when you treat it with Chemotherapy and Radiation... I'll get into this more tomorrow... but, Your afflictions are in your DNA, you are who you come from. There are plenty of people who did nothing but inhale clean oxygen their entire lives and come down with Lung Cancer... I'll get into this tomorrow lol. Just... watch out that you're not deceiving anyone with "facts" But i agree with you... There is a reason it's nicknamed Dope... You intoxicate yourself without thanksgiving and discipline of sobriety and you're going to be as dumb as a pile of rocks, until you stop.