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BillG

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Jimbo, sometimes folks get overzealous when guarding their cake that anyone approaching or eyeballing "their precious" may get a pie in the face.

Just a friendly warning.

Lol I was poking at Dcon and Bill so was waiting for retaliation.
Im working on mine at the moment
 
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Ariel82

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faith comes from believing and is a gift.. faith is not the crown,,, the end reward is your salvation..
How does one get the end reward?

Can it be done apart from God and His work in us?
 
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i AM MOST DEFINATELY A CAKE TAKER WHEN I LOOK AT THAT PICTURE... but you wont see me for dust when theres some of that about haha
 

BillG

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Jimbo, sometimes folks get overzealous when guarding their cake that anyone approaching or eyeballing "their precious" may get a pie in the face.

Just a friendly warning.

Lol I was poking at Dcon and Bill so was waiting for retaliation.
Ok ready to retaliate.

Sit down, take a seat as you will need one.

love me precious sister in Christ his beautiful daughter.
 
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That actually makes great sense truth....I believe too that if we don't take the way out that God Himself gave all the world in His Son, that all are under law.
Galatians 3 & 4 says Sinner and Saint are no longer under the Law since Christ came...Romans 1 states that God gives the unbeliever of the new covenant over to their depraved mind...Romans 3-7 pretty much tell us that even unbelievers in the new covenant are not under the law...The law was put into effect to show us the need for a savior, but now that Christ has come we no longer need the tutor of the Law, we have Christ....you receive him by faith through grace or you don't...

The Holy Spirit convicts the sinner of his/her need for Christ today not the law....
 

stonesoffire

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Galatians 3 & 4 says Sinner and Saint are no longer under the Law since Christ came...Romans 1 states that God gives the unbeliever of the new covenant over to their depraved mind...Romans 3-7 pretty much tell us that even unbelievers in the new covenant are not under the law...The law was put into effect to show us the need for a savior, but now that Christ has come we no longer need the tutor of the Law, we have Christ....you receive him by faith through grace or you don't...

The Holy Spirit convicts the sinner of his/her need for Christ today not the law....
be back after I check these out. :)
 
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The just shall live by faith<---Not salvation which = spiritual birth

Faith, hope, love and salvation are all gifts<---FREE in Christ
That not how i see it bro all tho you have added something knew.. some faiths are man made...
 
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Lol aerial has left the building with my cake hmmmmmmmmm chuckle.. feel free to take some cake yayyy
 
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Ok ready to retaliate.

Sit down, take a seat as you will need one.

love me precious sister in Christ his beautiful daughter.
Lol i thought you where peter pan for a minute then i dont whether to laugh or cry...
 

stonesoffire

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I started to read Galatians...but then remembered that no one can perform the works of the law perfectly except the One who fulfilled it.

So there's really no reason to go further. No one is saying that there would be someone who could do it perfectly.
 

stonesoffire

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truthhurts

How can an unbeliever be in the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus?
 
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I started to read Galatians...but then remembered that no one can perform the works of the law perfectly except the One who fulfilled it.

So there's really no reason to go further. No one is saying that there would be someone who could do it perfectly.
There is a reason to go further if you actually believe all without Jesus Christ today are still under the law....and that the Law today still convicts a sinner of their sin....

If DCONN wants to say that unbelievers will be judged at the Great White thrown by the 5 books of the law, he is wrong and Galatians and Romans prove it in spades...The Law was for the Jews....

John 1.17
For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ.
 
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truthhurts

How can an unbeliever be in the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus?
Never said they were did I?

An unbeliever is under the law of sin and death, but that is not the mosaic law...

If we are going to sling Romans 8.1-2 around lets also add ROmans 8.3-4

[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, [SUP]4 [/SUP]so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
 
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