Anger - A sin or a justified response

[PeterJens]

Matt 6:21-22

You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

There is a strange point about this verse. It is about anger against
a brother or sister in the Lord, not just everybody.

So we should never be justified about getting angry with the Lords anointed.
But sinners and the lost, we are justified at having anger, and it is not murder.

Now anger is often in peoples upbringing the most often repressed emotion and
people have serious problems because they do not allow themselves to know what
makes them angry, and practising anger management.

Now it was stated that anger is equivalent to murder. But unfortunately this is
not the passages meaning. Anger needs to be moderated, and angrily saying "you
fool" to brother or sister will endanger your salvation.

Now I feel rage is seriously dangerous, but anger in certain situations is essential
and not a sin. We are told not to let the sun go down on our anger so the hyper
legalistic interpretation against all anger is obviously not right.

But what is right? Can a parent tell a child off and are they allowed to be angry?
At work, when things go very wrong, can anger be appropriate?
On the road when people literally endanger you life, is it reasonable to get
angry and express it?

These are all situations I have been in, and though I am very laid back and
rarely get angry, I would like a more balanced answer to the one I currently
have.

God bless you, and may peace reign in your hearts in Jesus Christs Name.

 

[Issachar92]

In the king james it says angry at a brother without a cause. Makes much more sense.

Jesus got angry, therefore anger cannot be a sin

 

[Ariel82]

In the king james it says angry at a brother without a cause. Makes much more sense.

Jesus got angry, therefore anger cannot be a sin

No anger isn't a SIN but refusing to forgive someone is.

Not laying it at the foot of the cross at the end of the day is.
Anger can be justified and unjustified, but both must be given to God before the sun sets or it gives place to the devil to turn that anger into bitterness and sin,

People sin more from anger than most other emotions.

Emotions themselves aren't evil. Its our decisions that can cause evil.

 

[Ariel82]

Ephesians 4:26 ►
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
"In your anger do not sin": Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry,

New Living Translation
And "don't sin by letting anger control you." Don't let the sun go down while you are still angry,

English Standard Version
Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger,

Berean Study Bible
"Be angry, yet do not sin." Do not let the sun set upon your anger,

Berean Literal Bible
"Be angry, and yet do not sin." Let not the sun set upon your anger,

New American Standard Bible
BE ANGRY, AND yet DO NOT SIN; do not let the sun go down on your anger,

King James Bible
Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

 

[Angela_grace]

Anger is not a sin. Eph 4:26 says be angry and sin not.

 

[Ariel82]

Ephesians 4:31-32
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.

James 1:19-20
This you know, my beloved brethren But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; for the anger of man does not achieve the righteousness of God.

Ecclesiastes 7v9
Do not be eager in your heart to be angry, For anger resides in the bosom of fools.

 

[Ariel82]

By your logic, PeterJens....about it being only for brothers or sisters...then it would be okay for you to murder nonbelievers.

 

[dcontroversal]

Be ye angry and SIN NOT........anger is biblical......anger with wrath or vengeance on our part is not.

 

[Ariel82]

Reposted...anger is not a SIN...murder is.

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Murder is more than the physical act.

Anger must be judge as either justified or not. Both justified and unjustified anger must be given to God daily before sunset or you allow Satan a foothold into your mind and heart.

From that foothold, Satan builds a stronghold of anger and bitterness. He whispers lies to you about the other person and destroys your love for them, until out of your bitter heart you insult them....Jesus then says you are in need of counsel. If you don't listen to counsel, you continue and call them a "fool" which is someone who doesn't know God.

This crime is like what the Pharisees did when they told Jesus He healed because of power Satan and not God.

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If people want to teach the Law, then teach as Jesus did.

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This is how Satan works to build spiritual strongholds in your hearts and minds that cause people to condemn others with their words. It is because in their hearts they have already murdered them, acording to the teachings of JESUS.

.though many will deny it because they claim to "see" yet are blind to their own sins and seek only to have others punished for the hurt caused to them and not repent of the harm they cause others.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

But in many cases we do not control our anger as good as christ did. So in most cases my anger has many times led to sin. But anger is a natural emotion that is good to let out in a healthy way

 

[OneFaith]

Matt 6:21-22

You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

There is a strange point about this verse. It is about anger against
a brother or sister in the Lord, not just everybody.

So we should never be justified about getting angry with the Lords anointed.
But sinners and the lost, we are justified at having anger, and it is not murder.

Now anger is often in peoples upbringing the most often repressed emotion and
people have serious problems because they do not allow themselves to know what
makes them angry, and practising anger management.

Now it was stated that anger is equivalent to murder. But unfortunately this is
not the passages meaning. Anger needs to be moderated, and angrily saying "you
fool" to brother or sister will endanger your salvation.

Now I feel rage is seriously dangerous, but anger in certain situations is essential
and not a sin. We are told not to let the sun go down on our anger so the hyper
legalistic interpretation against all anger is obviously not right.

But what is right? Can a parent tell a child off and are they allowed to be angry?
At work, when things go very wrong, can anger be appropriate?
On the road when people literally endanger you life, is it reasonable to get
angry and express it?

These are all situations I have been in, and though I am very laid back and
rarely get angry, I would like a more balanced answer to the one I currently
have.

God bless you, and may peace reign in your hearts in Jesus Christs Name.

The Bible says do not sin in your anger. If anger was sin, it might as well say do not sin in your sin. No, anger is not sin, but it does make self-control much harder. Jesus never sinned, and He got angry and drove the merchants out of the the temple. Anger is sometimes nessesary. It gives us adrenaline to get through certain situations- a man protecting his wife, a mother protecting her child, a citizen taking a stand against a corrupt government.

Adrenaline is a powerful tool, but not always nessesary. It's like using a rocket to cross the street. Your body doesn't know when anger is nessesary, so you often have to tell it "false alarm, calm down." We need to be slow to anger, and always self-controlled before, during, and after. The Bible says not to let the sun go down on our anger- don't drag it into another day. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Bottling things up will cause you to overreact when the bottle explodes.

You can turn the channel so-to-speak. If you recognize your anger is not needed, change your emotion by changing your facial expression, breathing, and the topic in your mind.

 

[JohnTalmid]

In anger Moshe struck the rock. His action out of anger kept him from entering the promised land. Ever heard the command"don't boil a baby goat in its mother's milk"? Well don't boil a new believer in its mother's milk either. By the way not even pagans did this. The law is of the spirit.

 

[Yahweh_is_gracious]

Anger is a choice, just the same as every other emotional response. If a person wants to look for the cause, they only need look in the mirror.

 

[PeterJens]

By your logic, PeterJens....about it being only for brothers or sisters...then it would be okay for you to murder nonbelievers.

Ariel - I am not an angry person. What struck me as interesting was Jesus restricting
problems with anger to brothers and sisters. This is not mine.

And I hear what you are saying. You regard anger as murder. Murder is fed by anger,
but anger is a natural response to a threat. So when we get angry we need to listen and
ask why. Anger can be a friend and also an enemy.

I hope you see linking anger and murder so tightly as you have done is dangerous.
Anger destroys many lives when it finds no acknowledgement and turns to bitterness
resentment and revenge.

Letting anger out and allowing yourself to scream is healthy. Sometimes we need to
run away, to cry, to know how hurt we are, to let the roar rise, take us over, and then
pass. A few times in my life I could have gone too far, we all could. For some it does
destroy their lives.

My son had rages, which he needed to feel. As a youngster he would get annoyed and
throw things. I would take him to his room and just block the door until he calmed down.
I would say, you are angry. He would scream back, I am not angry, which was ironic.
I would stand or sit in the doorway, so he could leave when he was calm, and I was not
shutting him in, just controlling the damage he could do.

He knows now how to handle the feeling, to acknowledge it and let it pass.
Some of the quietest people are raging inside. It matters to know ones anger.

Emotional repression makes us victims of the emotion, so it dominates our
lives, and we become super sensitive if it appears, which is not good.

 

[Ariel82]

Anger is a choice, just the same as every other emotional response. If a person wants to look for the cause, they only need look in the mirror.

Really I don't chose my emotions.

Just how I respond to them.

Sometimes I don't understand why I feel a certain way because my mind acknowledges it's irrational except it could be hormones. When I was pregnant my emotions were often extremely irrational.

 

[PeterJens]

The difficult reality is we have emotions, and we do not necessarily know why.
The first step to freedom is acknowledging them openly and freely.

The next step is responding appropriately.
Emotions can be tamed with other emotions in our lives. So if you are very low
and sad you can do happy things that will bring you up.
If you are too high, you can do relaxing things to bring things into proper perspective.

We are built to try and explain our emotions, but they can occur randomly, which is
very annoying and destabalising. The male approach is to just deny you have emotions
at all. Not a good approach and often leads to nervous breakdowns etc.

This is why I believe in purity, cleansing ones heart, letting what is within out, and
then putting things into perspective in Christ at the foot of the cross.

Until we listen to ourselves, we become victims of our situation and society, which
is not Christs way. Bringing Christ into the quiet room, into our Holy place, Intimacy,
peace and silence, there we can talk and know His love.

Anger is often the most powerful and dangerous thing we hide. But if we fear it
inside us, we become its master, rather than recognising it is just an emotion.

 

[Ariel82]

"You regard anger as murder. "

No....I regard condemning people in your heart as not worthy of respect and love and forgiveness as murder.

 

[PeterJens]

"You regard anger as murder. "
No....I regard condemning people in your heart as not worthy of respect and love and forgiveness as murder.

What are you referring to?
Insanity is where people draw the wrong conclusions about the wrong things.
I still love them and forgive them for their insanity, but I do not respect the insanity.

I will not engage with them because it just generates abuse and evil.
So many accusations of lying, when speaking the truth is our ethic and integrity.

The atmosphere is so bad, to make an observation about how someone comes across
is a lie and an insult. And what is really at stake?

Is sinful behaviour worthy of judgement?
Can we walk like Jesus empowered by love, the cross and the Holy Spirit?

Now how is it that answering these two questions makes one more evil than
the most evil people in history?

It is because apostacy and false teachers generate this level of hatred and
animosity against innocents. Their whole intention is destroy the enemy or
convert them. Some have admitted as much in their interactions.

This is not the Holy Spirit at work here. The only reason for interaction is for
them, but their time has come, and all I have needed to say has been said.

God bless you, but I am not doing evil, murdering, not forgiving, not loving
people. I think it is unfortunately you are not listening to what they sincerely
believe and are actively choosing to follow. They will not rest until they have
conquered all, and hold that everything spoken by anyone else is a lie of satan.

 

[PeterJens]

When is an apostate truly lost?

When they no longer listen to Gods word.

Now this has come up because someone thinks I am angry at others.
I am never angry for delusions and insanity. I will point them out and show
the delusion, it is then up to the people concerned either to listen or carry
on.

Anger has not been generated in me from my interactions on cc, rather astonishment
that believers could feel they know the Lord and behave like this.

It would truly make me question my knowledge of Christ and myself.

I have known anger about churches and been hurt in the past. But I have worked
it through and the Lord has shown me how it was my idealistic expectation of acceptance
without the teaching of love and a pure heart, that caused my disappointment.

If I did not know how to forgive my brothers and sisters in the Lord, how on earth
could I expect people to know what forgiveness was when I witnessed to people who
have been horrendously abused, to whom forgiveness is one of the most costly things
they could ever do.

 

[Grace777x70]

Outbursts of anger are a work of the flesh and bring destruction to us in some form while on this earth. This is in the same lists as those that live a homosexual lifestyle.

Calling people names in hostility ( another work of the flesh "enmities" ) is a work of the flesh and manifests this in our outbursts of anger.

All of the works of the flesh will cause us to not experience the inheritance of ours that is in us in the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is within us - in our new creation in Christ.

Walk by the spirit and we will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Religion says "Stop doing the things of the flesh" and you will walk by the spirit.

Religion always gets the things of God and the gospel backwards. Paul says to "walk by the spirit and then you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh" Gal. 5:16

The real question IMO should be - "How do we walk by the spirit? What is walking by the spirit?"

Galatians 5:19-21 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,

[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,

[SUP]21 [/SUP] envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.