We the children of God have no need to sin.

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Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou has delivered thy soul." Ezekiel 4:21


Have a wonderful day in the days of the last.

Love in Jesus Christ
bro gary
 
Another sinless perfection thread? Those who believe they live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time (exactly as Jesus lived) are suffering from a terminal case of self righteousness (1 John 1:8-10).
 
No I completely agree,I don't think that there is any need for sin,some I guess feel that it builds character or spices up life but there are other ways of doing that,so that a person doesn't go to hell,you just have to be inclined to seek these other means.
 
Let he without sin cast the first stone. Jesus spoke this because he knew the heart of man, I am all for not sinning but it's when it comes to the point of being without sin that it becomes an issue. There have been many sinless preachers here in cc and I have attempted to discuss with them and reason with them, one main thing I noticed is that even though what they teach is clearly the sinless doctrine when asked if they themselves are without sin there are generally two responses. one they won't reply because they can't knowing that they cannot say they are without sin and also because they can't say they do sin because then they contradict what they teach.

2- they say they do sin sometimes and ask for forgiveness but they believe with faith we can be without sin- basically they have yet to reach the sinlessness they preach but they believe it is achievable.

It is fitting that this thread is in the conspiracy section as this doctrine in particular can only really fit under conspiracy
 
The vast majority of supposed good Christians claim to be so just so that they can point their fingers at those that don't make the same claim and call them sinners and " satanists " and look down on them.

This I find hilarious because when God judges everyone these supposed good Christians that live their lives to "repent" and try to take advantage of God being such a nice guy will be the ones going to hell because they have no excuse for the way that they lived ....because they supposedly are believers right?

The "bad" sinners that don't claim to believe in God will be given a chance to change their minds about that.

God will show His existence by making examples of the really terrible people,probably the ones that used Him and His name for their own reasons.
 
imfinallyfree said:
The vast majority of supposed good Christians claim to be so just so that they can point their fingers at those that don't make the same claim and call them sinners and " satanists " and look down on them.

This I find hilarious because when God judges everyone these supposed good Christians that live their lives to "repent" and try to take advantage of God being such a nice guy will be the ones going to hell because they have no excuse for the way that they lived ....because they supposedly are believers right?

The "bad" sinners that don't claim to believe in God will be given a chance to change their minds about that.

God will show His existence by making examples of the really terrible people,probably the ones that used Him and His name for their own reasons.
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Do not confuse resting in grace with taking advantage of God. This is the most common accusation by the sinless doctrine and it vastly misunderstands grace and the sinner. His grace never has been and never will be a free ticket to live how we please and think oh he will just forgive me so i can sin and be perfectly fine.

As i have said to many of the sinless teachers one who is grateful for his grace would never misuse it or take advantage of it anyone who would doesn't understand grace to begin with.
 
[h=2]We the children of God have no need to sin.[/h]
Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou has delivered thy soul." Ezekiel 4:21


Have a wonderful day in the days of the last.

Love in Jesus Christ
bro gary




God created Man in His Image, God is sinless.


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Exactly my point,we have been warned for thousands of years,we have dissected the Bible every way possible so we have no excuses.

What EXACTLY is "resting in grace" can you please explain that in plain english?

Is it possible for you to talk in plain english? Or do you have to speak mysteriously to feel smarter than everyone else?
 
Exactly my point,we have been warned for thousands of years,we have dissected the Bible every way possible so we have no excuses.

What EXACTLY is "resting in grace" can you please explain that in plain english?

Is it possible for you to talk in plain english? Or do you have to speak mysteriously to feel smarter than everyone else?
 
imfinallyfree said:
Exactly my point,we have been warned for thousands of years,we have dissected the Bible every way possible so we have no excuses.

What EXACTLY is "resting in grace" can you please explain that in plain english?

Is it possible for you to talk in plain english? Or do you have to speak mysteriously to feel smarter than everyone else?
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I am speaking in plain english I am not speaking mysteriously and certainly not feel more smart than everyone. I could explain to you what resting in grace is but you do not have the ears to hear so it would not do any good. To be taught you have to have a teachable heart and to listen to the words of another you must have a the willingness to take what they say.

But I have conversed with you enough to know that your views are set in stone and nothing I say will change it
 
There is no escape for sin as long as man is in the flesh, because that is what sin is ,the weak flesh that chooses it's own path. that is why the word says the spirit and the flesh is at war with each other daily. even was we are saved from condemnation by the grace of God, there still is no escape from sin until we have been transformed in our new bodies by Jesus Christ, our lord and saviour The believer's sins are covered because we chose to believe and live by faith, and believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God who Sacraficed His body on the cross, and gave his life for the sins of the world. he took the blame for our sins, because there was no other way out for us. people it is the flesh that we live in that is weak and is not worthy. Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven, only the spirit man. To put off the flesh and take on the spirit man is excatly the way Adam and Eve was before they ate the fruit. unaware of self conscience,and when you are in that state of mind, your flesh will not sin. but since sin entered the world that state of mind that Adam and Eve was in will never be again as long we are flesh and blood and aware of ourselves.
 
Why does a person have to be "saved"....that's containment of the problem and as shown by the state of the world we are way beyond containment,so God is stepping in to fix everything,we should be focusing on how to NOT get to this point.
 
imfinallyfree said:
Why does a person have to be "saved"....that's containment of the problem and as shown by the state of the world we are way beyond containment,so God is stepping in to fix everything,we should be focusing on how to NOT get to this point.
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PROBLEM - All have sinned and come short of the glory of God and the wages of sin is death.

SOLUTION - But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord (Romans 3:23; 6:23).
 
imfinallyfree said:
Why does a person have to be "saved"....that's containment of the problem and as shown by the state of the world we are way beyond containment,so God is stepping in to fix everything,we should be focusing on how to NOT get to this point.
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Really? It's way too late for that. Please read Scripture, man isn't capable of a solution.
 
sujatha said:
God created Man in His Image, God is sinless.
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And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagining of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
(Genesis 6:5)
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so what happened?
 
imfinallyfree said:
Sooo we are all sinners that are so bad that we need to pay someone else to dig us out of our own hole?
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Yep, but more like that someone paid for us

imfinallyfree said:
Don't. Ever group me in with you ever again....you don't know me.
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The Bible clearly says all men except for Christ sin and need to be saved through him. You fall under all men and can be grouped accordingly. What scripture and texts do you read? Are you a Gnostic?
 
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