The holy spirit

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I played the video a lot but couldn't see anything but lights..if they really had that symbol projected on stage then it would be a problem.

I heard some rumors of hillsong...maybe some research would be a good idea.

I just like the music.

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What is unbiblical about thel lyrics to this song?

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Oceans (Where Feet May Fail)
Hillsong United
Lyrics
You call me out upon the waters
The great unknown where feet may fail
And there I find You in the mystery
In oceans deep
My faith will stand
And I will call upon Your name
And keep my eyes above the waves
When oceans rise, my soul will rest in Your embrace
For I am Yours and You are mine
Your grace abounds in deepest waters
Your sovereign hand
Will be my guide
Where feet may fail and fear surrounds me
You've never failed and You won't start now
So I will call upon Your name
And keep my eyes above the waves
When oceans rise, my soul will rest in Your embrace
For I am Yours and You are mine
Spirit lead me where my trust is without borders
Let me walk upon the waters
Wherever You would call me
Take me deeper than my feet could ever wander
And my faith will be made stronger
In the presence of my Savior
Spirit lead me where my trust is without borders
Let me walk upon the waters
Wherever You would call me
Take me deeper than my feet could ever wander
And my faith will be made stronger
In the presence of my Savior
Spirit lead me where my trust is without borders
Let me walk upon the waters
Wherever You would call me
Take me deeper than my feet could ever wander
And my faith will be made stronger
In the presence of my Savior
I will call upon Your name
Keep my eyes above the waves
My soul will rest in Your embrace
I am Yours and You are mine
Songwriters: Joel Houston / Matt Crocker / Salomon Ligthelm
Oceans (Where Feet May Fail) lyrics © Capitol Christian Music Group

Who said I said the lyrics were unbiblical? I never mentioned that.

But, now that YOU mentioned it, there IS a problem.

Imagine, if you would, writers & singers that are constantly into worship to the point of always raising their hands on stage & glorifying somebody like they're totally into worshiping them, & NEVER SAY THE NAME OF GOD OR JESUS?

When you're into Jesus that much, His name will naturally flow outta your mouth.

Happens all the time with CCM & worship choruses. God & Jesus are conveniently left out. We only think they are in there because of the language they use..... but they're not.

Then there's the church itself, & their megawealthy pastor, who says The christian God & the muslim god are the same god.

Even internet theologians know better than that.
 
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You either are showing ignorance, or you are leading people away from a real issue.

I hope it's the first.

Those led by the Spirit know the NWO is the govt control of the Antichrist. It's been around before the U.S. was founded.
The problem is people actually believe this world is in control.
The truth is all the control that exists is based upon shared beliefs.

So this works from our education, to justice, to social support, to institutions which all behave
in a predictable way. This shared culture and assumption mean these totally independent organisations
work as a unified whole.

Now there are groups who will attempt to manipulate and push the system one way or another, but in
reality it is not controlled by any group, it responds to the economic pressures of the market of supply
and demand. The reason it has become so successful is because it is not controlled but guided.

Look at the rise of China, India, Brazil and Russia and you will see the power of this economic system
at work. If from 1960 onwards has proven anything we live now in a different age, an age of medicine,
where man can truly effect the whole environment, where every bit of land on the planet is known
and monitored.

Look at countries out of control, Afghanistan, Somalia, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Syria, Iraq and you can see
what happens when things break down, and groups decide to take up arms against each other.
 
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The problem is people actually believe this world is in control.
The truth is all the control that exists is based upon shared beliefs.

So this works from our education, to justice, to social support, to institutions which all behave
in a predictable way. This shared culture and assumption mean these totally independent organisations
work as a unified whole.

Now there are groups who will attempt to manipulate and push the system one way or another, but in
reality it is not controlled by any group, it responds to the economic pressures of the market of supply
and demand. The reason it has become so successful is because it is not controlled but guided.

Look at the rise of China, India, Brazil and Russia and you will see the power of this economic system
at work. If from 1960 onwards has proven anything we live now in a different age, an age of medicine,
where man can truly effect the whole environment, where every bit of land on the planet is known
and monitored.

Look at countries out of control, Afghanistan, Somalia, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Syria, Iraq and you can see
what happens when things break down, and groups decide to take up arms against each other.
For someone who doesn't know a thing about the NWO, you certainly know about the economic systems of the world.
 
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For someone who doesn't know a thing about the NWO, you certainly know about the economic systems of the world.
Stephen. I have worked in financial services my whole working life, building models
around investment and pension products. You kind of get an understanding of how
the investment industry works from this.

If you have a pension product, investing in the right funds, the right areas, what will
give a reasonable return for the risk taken is an important issue. Now unless you have
a guaranteed annuity with a defined index linked income, how your investments do will
directly effect ones future. Now maybe this is just beyond you and the nuances are too
difficult, but this is where everyone is headed with the industry.

And to be honest it interested me why the system is so vulnerable and what the investment
multiplier is, which drives a lot of economic activity.
 
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Had to remind myself your talking about donkeys, garee
 
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Aaand I think you're more than educated enough to focus only on what I said to cover it up..... You sounded your horn on every time it was mentioned.

Frankly, I'm not buying any of your story at all, now that you mention it.

stonesoffire saw it & wasn't even looking for it.

You saw it & tried to cover it up.
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stephen i havent covered anything up i dont understand why im being attacked like this but i can only assume perhaps you have been attacked by the enemy to think this..

I was attacked after playing oceons just befor i saw your first comment on it..

I did see something that was suspicous but when i looked again it was what looked to be an eygyption phairo i could seen an eye but i did think illuminati as well... i think it was an atack from the enemy a bad spirit putting the thought in my mind.

This what the enemy can do,,,,,, it can put this thought in your mind and you think its your thought..

I wanted to sound my horn but watched it again and couldnt see any eyes... i have looked a few times its not there..

i also had a lounder thought it was definately an attack saying do i have to listen to this rubbish... it was me i know how to upset spirits that i know are there i mean the bad ones that is.... they dont like thoughtful rebuke...i kept listening to it and sure enough i had a nother attack and then when i went to bed it attacked me like never befor...coz i completely riled it...

Mate i dont expect you to buy my story or any other story but i do sence someone of Good spirit in you which is why im trying to be a brother right now and not your enemy peace bro..
 
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spello mistake up there i coundnt see an eye... so i say eye eye ;)
 
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Thoughts or ideas can be random sometimes, and appear as you say like they make
sense, when actually they do not. It is where you can learn to construct a checking
mechanism to filter out what is things you know you want to express and everything
else. Now I would not put a source on these thoughts, because that does not help.

But filtering them and learning how we individually function and tick is part of our own
life skill. Love, prayer and the Holy Spirit help a lot.
Peter i commend you on your sincerity and i can only apolagize for liking dcs comment on ignoring you i think you have a good insight into heart matters unfornuately tho it is a touchy subject if your not mature in heart.. which i think im still fully not or maybe i am or maybe im beeing attacked to much to have complete control of my own though at times im still learning the tricks and sneakiness of the enemy to..


so anyways mate im sorry for calling your testing to see if you where ignorant your responce was commenable a true mature strong heart who can handles critism with maturity in love and peace and war you new found brother i commend you .:)
 
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this song to me repesent fellow christians calling to the lord when they all sing like that together awsome

[video=youtube;eLqTZ07ja7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLqTZ07ja7g[/video]
 
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spirit lead me where my trust is without waters and let me walk on the water lord please just let me have an outerbody experience please

let me walk lord.

spirit lead me..

amen:)
 
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I wreckons that from 3 mins 14 onwards for a minute turned right up mega loud will certainly make bad spirits flee :)
 
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so whats new :) today i had a diffacult situation i had a sale with a gay client. who took a likeing to me i was not amused.

anyway i sold him the job full premium... am i mean for this ? i feel slightly convicted..but then God tell me the sales are for a good cause...
 
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he told me that david cameran was under presure from euro to allow gay marriage and thats why he did it..

Its seems that the scotish priminister is gay and thats the reason the church as buckled..

Quite frankly i am appauled by this..

Anyways i had to hold my temptation in telling him he was a sinner.. this is my real conviction right now i feel like a coward.

I need guidance it seems that the euro wants gay people to be accepted but do we have to change the bible to allow gay marriage like the scotish church are doing..

and no disrespect to scotish folk who understand this... the line has been crossed.. what comes next ? end times ?
 
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spirit lead me where my trust is without waters and let me walk on the water lord please just let me have an outerbody experience please

let me walk lord.

spirit lead me..

amen:)
Why would you want an out of body experience?

Who will keep the demons out of your body if you wander in the spirit realm without God's protection or calling?


I would rather pray that we are fully in the body and experiencing God's grace and love and displaying it to others than seek out of body visions.
 
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Ariel82

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I agree with the current United Methodist church stance on homosexuality....they recognize them as humans deserving love and respect but state that homosexuality is against what God has revealed to us in the Bible.

However, I know some folks want to change the Book of Discipline, which will cause a split in the church which ever way the vote goes.

I don't know Jimbo. Its something we have to pray about.
 
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Why would you want an out of body experience?

Who will keep the demons out of your body if you wander in the spirit realm without God's protection or calling?


I would rather pray that we are fully in the body and experiencing God's grace and love and displaying it to others than seek out of body visions.
icoz i want to see jesus with his stretched out hand whilst walking on water lol... God i thought that would be obvious haha
 

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icoz i want to see jesus with his stretched out hand whilst walking on water lol... God i thought that would be obvious haha
I have at times when I go to sleep ask God as I sleep to work in my dreams.
 
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so whats new :) today i had a diffacult situation i had a sale with a gay client. who took a likeing to me i was not amused.

anyway i sold him the job full premium... am i mean for this ? i feel slightly convicted..but then God tell me the sales are for a good cause...
Why would that be any worse than if a female client too a liking to you?
(I mean, you are not responsible for their feelings are you? Since I assume you didn't flirt :p ) :)
 
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Ariel82

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I have at times when I go to sleep ask God as I sleep to work in my dreams.
Only time I had God work in my dreams is just before a stormy season in life when it seems that the Devil makes an all our attack on me or my loved ones....

While I am thankful for the warning and it helps me hold onto my faith that it's all part of God's plan....I like the calm peaceful restful seasons and thank God for them...

A dreamless night is a good night for me.