Jesus IS King!!!

[SovereignGrace]

Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.[1 Timothy 1:17]

In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.[1 Timothy 6:13-16]

Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this.[Isaiah 9:7]

The next day the great crowd that had come for the festival heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem. They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna!” “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!” “Blessed is the king of Israel!”Jesus found a young donkey and sat on it, as it is written:“Do not be afraid, Daughter Zion; see, your king is coming, seated on a donkey’s colt."[John 12:12-15]

For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.[Colossians 1:13,14]


Yep. Jesus IS King.

 

[trofimus]

"Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him."
Matthew 2:2

The chief priests of the Jews protested to Pilate, "Do not write 'The King of the Jews,' but that this man claimed to be king of the Jews."
Pilate answered, "What I have written, I have written."
John 19:21

 

[J7]

lol.

Ever get the feeling the Romans found the Jews hard work

 

[trofimus]

Making this thread higher than "Jesus is not King"

 

[SovereignGrace]

Making this thread higher than "Jesus is not King"

Notice those who hold to heresy can't hold to just one, they have to have more. KJVO, God is not omniscient, and Jesus is NOT King. That's a three-of-a-kind I'd fold.

 

[trofimus]

Notice those who hold to heresy can't hold to just one, they have to have more. KJVO, God is not omniscient, and Jesus is NOT King. That's a three-of-a-kind I'd fold.

Yeah, I am also seeing that KJVO guys are coming with various strange ideas that are foreign to the common, catholic church.

Any group that is "only" gets isolated and therefore is not being corrected by others.

 

[peacefulbeliever]

Notice those who hold to heresy can't hold to just one, they have to have more. KJVO, God is not omniscient, and Jesus is NOT King. That's a three-of-a-kind I'd fold.

Is Jesus ruling from the throne with a rod of iron at this time? And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron; Rev. 12:5 (Rev. 2:27, 19:15) Jesus came the first time as a suffering servant - He will come again as a conquering King.

Has death LITERALLY been conquered? Hebrews 3:8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. BUT now we see NOT YET all things put under him.

The last enemy to be destroyed is death . . Hebrews 2:14b . . that through death he might destroy him that has the power of death, that is, the devil. Has the devil been destroyed yet? Has death ACTUALLY been destroyed yet?

Rev. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone . . . Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire . . .

Now seriously, is any of this heresy?

 

[trofimus]

Is Jesus ruling from the throne with a rod of iron at this time? And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron; Rev. 12:5 (Rev. 2:27, 19:15) Jesus came the first time as a suffering servant - He will come again as a conquering King.

Has death LITERALLY been conquered? Hebrews 3:8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. BUT now we see NOT YET all things put under him.

The last enemy to be destroyed is death . . Hebrews 2:14b . . that through death he might destroy him that has the power of death, that is, the devil. Has the devil been destroyed yet? Has death ACTUALLY been destroyed yet?

Rev. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone . . . Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire . . .

Now seriously, is any of this heresy?

Heresy is, when you change "He is not king over one specific thing yet from our timely point of view" to "He is not King".

Generalization.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Is Jesus ruling from the throne with a rod of iron at this time? And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron; Rev. 12:5 (Rev. 2:27, 19:15) Jesus came the first time as a suffering servant - He will come again as a conquering King.

Has death LITERALLY been conquered? Hebrews 3:8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. BUT now we see NOT YET all things put under him.

The last enemy to be destroyed is death . . Hebrews 2:14b . . that through death he might destroy him that has the power of death, that is, the devil. Has the devil been destroyed yet? Has death ACTUALLY been destroyed yet?

Rev. 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone . . . Rev. 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire . . .

Now seriously, is any of this heresy?

Jesus IS ruling now. Just because the world is in chaos doesn't negate this. Even when Job was being assaulted by Job, he did so only so much that God allowed. None of the stuff going on negates His Kingship now.

Whilst the Christ was being crucified, God was in complete control. Nothing's changed.

 

[John146]

Jesus IS ruling now. Just because the world is in chaos doesn't negate this. Even when Job was being assaulted by Job, he did so only so much that God allowed. None of the stuff going on negates His Kingship now.

Whilst the Christ was being crucified, God was in complete control. Nothing's changed.

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Lord's government will be restored in the future and darkness will be brought to light. That is a beautiful doctrine for us believers.

 

[preacher4truth]

Jesus: "And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."

Others: Satan is in control!!

Sorry, Satan isn't in control of this world other than any allowance granted by YHWH.

Yes, I am aware of 2 Corinthians 4:4, 'the god of this world' but that isn't meaning that he is in control of the world. There are other passages that seem to make it appear he is in control. He is not. God has always been in control, and that is immutable fact.

Some need to come to grips with God's Sovereignty and understand how it works -- nothing can thwart God's intentions; Job 42:2, Daniel 4:34-35. He is in charge and I rest in this truth.

Imagine, going to a church with these folks preaching Jesus is not King of Kings, and instead preaching satan is.

 

[preacher4truth]

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Lord's government will be restored in the future and darkness will be brought to light. That is a beautiful doctrine for us believers.

As per usual you only know what verses say, but not what they mean.

 

[John146]

Jesus: "And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."

Others: Satan is in control!!

Sorry, Satan isn't in control of this world other than any allowance granted by YHWH.

Yes, I am aware of 2 Corinthians 4:4, 'the god of this world' but that isn't meaning that he is in control of the world. There are other passages that seem to make it appear he is in control. He is not. God has always been in control, and that is immutable fact.

Some need to come to grips with God's Sovereignty and understand how it works -- nothing can thwart God's intentions; Job 42:2, Daniel 4:34-35. He is in charge and I rest in this truth.

Imagine, going to a church with these folks preaching Jesus is not King of Kings, and instead preaching satan is.

God is always in control. Right now, God is allowing Satan to be the god of this world, the ruler of the darkness. God never loses control. All I am saying is, that when Jesus takes what is coming to Him, He will sit upon the throne of His glory, literally on this earth, and rule and reign. That is a future prophecy concerning the Savior. Right now, He is waiting at the right hand of the Father. That's all.

 

[trofimus]

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Lord's government will be restored in the future and darkness will be brought to light. That is a beautiful doctrine for us believers.

"But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God."
Mt 22:29

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"He changes times and seasons; he deposes kings and raises up others. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning."
Da 2:21

"Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."
R 13:1

"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
Rev 1:8

 

[John146]

Imagine, going to a church with these folks preaching Jesus is not King of Kings, and instead preaching satan is.

As usual, very disrespectful to a fellow brother in Christ.

 

[SovereignGrace]

As per usual you only know what verses say, but not what they mean.

The 'god of this world' has blinded the minds of unbelievers....the veil has been removed from the minds of believers. Seeing that God is the One who removes this veil proves the Christ is ruling now.

 

[John146]

Read post #7 and notice the words "not yet."

 

[preacher4truth]

As usual, very disrespectful to a fellow brother in Christ.

Not at all, unless you apply that rule to yourself because you do the same things in your comments to others, and with greater disrespect and with disdain.

It is a fact that what I stated is true, you hold to much error, and I say this in concern for you.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Seeing that Paul, under the inspiration of the Almighty, penned 'King eternal'[1 Timothy 1:17] means He's ever been King.

 

[preacher4truth]

For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. - 1 Corinthians 15:25

He is reigning, He is King. Like right now.