Catholic believe pope is infallible

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Jackson123

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I know all about what Jesus said and I agree with you that we should love our fellow man.
Believe me, CATHOLICS KNOW CALVIN IS WRONG.

No need to tell them.

Do you really know about them???
Maybe not.
if I convince calvinis wrong, i Will tell them because i love them. But you admit mary not omni present, and Knowles catholic pray to mary why you not tell them?
 
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if I convince calvinis wrong, i Will tell them because i love them. But you admit mary not omni present, and Knowles catholic pray to mary why you not tell them?
I'm sorry Jackson.

Maybe you didn't understand me.

Every Church could believe what it wants to.

WE don't have to agree with them.

See what i mean.

I don't agree with Islam.

Who should I go tell?
You know an Imam I could speak to???

I'd have a few things to tell him.
Forget about praying to Mary.
 

loveme1

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Those practising the catholic religion do not know Heavenly Father or the Messiah. Paganism posing as light... come out of that religion and seek the Truth.
 
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Those practising the catholic religion do not know Heavenly Father or the Messiah. Paganism posing as light... come out of that religion and seek the Truth.
No argument from me.......
 

Jackson123

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I'm sorry Jackson.

Maybe you didn't understand me.

Every Church could believe what it wants to.

WE don't have to agree with them.

See what i mean.

I don't agree with Islam.

Who should I go tell?
You know an Imam I could speak to???

I'd have a few things to tell him.
Forget about praying to Mary.
if you love them, at Least you write here WHO Know some body read It.

you know mary not omni present in the same time you agree billion people make prayers request to her. Is that love?
 

Jackson123

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I'm sorry Jackson.

Maybe you didn't understand me.

Every Church could believe what it wants to.

WE don't have to agree with them.

See what i mean.

I don't agree with Islam.

Who should I go tell?
You know an Imam I could speak to???

I'd have a few things to tell him.
Forget about praying to Mary.
oh ya i forget to say, seem to me you do not believe that mohammadan/ islam is not in the plan of salvation.

catholic say islam is in the plan If salvation.

​Is that mean you believe that catholic doctrine is Lie ?
 

Jackson123

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I'm sorry Jackson.

Maybe you didn't understand me.

Every Church could believe what it wants to.

WE don't have to agree with them.

See what i mean.

I don't agree with Islam.

Who should I go tell?
You know an Imam I could speak to???

I'd have a few things to tell him.
Forget about praying to Mary.
evaluating your respons, I believe you do not believe muslim is in the plan of salvation, don't you

but catholic doctrine say Mohammadans is in the plan of salvation.

is that mean you do not believe in catholic doctrine ?

​is that mean you believe catholic doctrine Lie?
 

loveme1

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Those that proclaim all roads lead to salvation are liars.. there is no unity with the world and its many religions. Beware of the wolves in sheep clothing my friends.. they are deceiving you. One True GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bringing our Messiah in to the world to redeem us. Hold fast to the Truth.. the Testimony of the Messiah is the only way. The serpent beguiles even in this day my friends. The rulers of this world adhere to the serpent but we must seek the Truth and rebuke them. The Messiah teaches us how to through his experience.
 

Jackson123

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Those that proclaim all roads lead to salvation are liars.. there is no unity with the world and its many religions. Beware of the wolves in sheep clothing my friends.. they are deceiving you. One True GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bringing our Messiah in to the world to redeem us. Hold fast to the Truth.. the Testimony of the Messiah is the only way. The serpent beguiles even in this day my friends. The rulers of this world adhere to the serpent but we must seek the Truth and rebuke them. The Messiah teaches us how to through his experience.
yep, to say that muslim share the same God with Abraham is a Lie,

if Muslim God is same with Abraham God, why Muslim God not tell mohammad that Jesus is God?
 

loveme1

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yep, to say that muslim share the same God with Abraham is a Lie,

if Muslim God is same with Abraham God, why Muslim God not tell mohammad that Jesus is God?
The Messiah tells us that we can only have the Father through the Son... GOD said Isaac.... it is consistent and True.

The Messiah puts them in their place in Mathew 3:9
 
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jaybird88

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wrong is wrong WHO ever do It, need correction,
kill is wrong need correction
pray to mary is wrong not inline with Bible, need correction.

purgatory is wrong,not inline with the Bible, need correction
fleecing the flock for millions so the preacher can live in a mansion and fly around in a million dollar jet is wrong. but those are non Catholics so its ok.
 
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jaybird88

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Jaybird,

You don't think the bible speaks about living together?

What is fornication?

Marriage is biblical and not man-made.
many Jews today teach its improper conduct and i agree. i dont agree with calling it a sin when there is no mention of it being a sin. creating new sins is a dangerous path.

fornication would be breaking the sex laws?

i agree marriage is biblical.
 
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jaybird88

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The topic in our discussion is whether Roman Catholic beliefs are Scriptural. You said they were and I have given examples that show they are not. I can give more examples but not to you if you are just going to ignore them and change the subject.
i cant defend their doctrines as i was not brought up in that faith. my point was a Catholic can show you exactly where they get their doctrines from in the bible.

you made this comment:

elevate the traditions of men above the Word of God
and i showed you non Catholics do the exact same thing.

there have been times we spent the entire sunday school hour discussing how terrible the Catholics, Jews, etc are. sunday school would end and we never even opened our bibles. this concept has never worked for me, i never feel better about myself by trashing other religious groups and i have never understood it.
 

Jackson123

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fleecing the flock for millions so the preacher can live in a mansion and fly around in a million dollar jet is wrong. but those are non Catholics so its ok.
yep It is wrong.
 

Jackson123

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i cant defend their doctrines as i was not brought up in that faith. my point was a Catholic can show you exactly where they get their doctrines from in the bible.

you made this comment:



and i showed you non Catholics do the exact same thing.

there have been times we spent the entire sunday school hour discussing how terrible the Catholics, Jews, etc are. sunday school would end and we never even opened our bibles. this concept has never worked for me, i never feel better about myself by trashing other religious groups and i have never understood it.
you Never feed better by trashing other religius group,
and what do you mean by: fleecing the flock for millions so preacher can live in the mansion

friend, If you love some one and he go to hell, you have to warn him.

to warn is love, to let him go to hell is to hate.

I have a neighbors , after she pray to Mary, she Said, mary came and Said that she have to we Ar a t Shirt with the heart image

All the time, and she have to fast, I am not Remember how many day. She almost die, If not her neigbors call ambulance
I love her and told her not to believe Mary able to came to her

it is demon pretend to be Mary.

she tought I hate her.

people that not warn her It is the one WHO hate her. Not all the way around
 
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jaybird88

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you Never feed better by trashing other religius group,
and what do you mean by: fleecing the flock for millions so preacher can live in the mansion


it means using the church to make money for yourself
friend, If you love some one and he go to hell, you have to warn him.

to warn is love, to let him go to hell is to hate.

I have a neighbors , after she pray to Mary, she Said, mary came and Said that she have to we Ar a t Shirt with the heart image

All the time, and she have to fast, I am not Remember how many day. She almost die, If not her neigbors call ambulance
I love her and told her not to believe Mary able to came to her

it is demon pretend to be Mary.

she tought I hate her.

people that not warn her It is the one WHO hate her. Not all the way around
how do you know it was a demon? Jesus said we would know them by their fruit. what are the fruits of your neighbor, are they a threat to you and the community, are their lives full of debauchery and corruption? or are they different than you and your family?
everyone needs a good teacher but our true teacher is the one we find within, not changing churches over and over.
 

onlinebuddy

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Mary IS known as the Queen of Heaven.
Catholics DO believe in purgatory.

I never said this wasn't true.

There is no BAN on praying to Mary.
One could pray to whom he wishes.... but the RCC does not encourage this.


I live in a Catholic locality, and the statue of Mary is circulated among the local households. The statue of Mary remains in a particular house for a day, and the household is supposed to invite the neighbours and pray the Rosary. The next day, the statue of Mary moves on to the next nearby Catholic neighbour. This practice is carried out in Catholic localities all over India.
Now, if one refuses to comply, they are counted as outcasts. They say, "Oh! So you're not a catholic. Are you a protestant?"

So I disgree with your statement that the RCC does encourage praying to Mary.They not only encourage, but threaten you by telling you that they would not allow you to buried in the local Catholic cemetery. That's pretty serious!
 

Bladerunner

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Catholic believe pope is infallible or neve wrong in moral and reaching, but there is a change in teaching

before vatican second counsel, she believe there is no salvation out site catholic

after, she believe Islam and Jew are save

it mean she admit pope before second counsel was wrong in teaching, need correction

is she still maintain the doctrine of the infabillity of pope? Or unaware to realized coughs lying
Best thing you can do is go on line and get an e-book or regular book named "The Woman Rides the Beast" by David Hunt

You will change your mind about Catholicism
 

onlinebuddy

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It's NOT A GRAVEN IMAGE.

They aren't praying TO THE STATUE.

It's a representation of someone to help with the prayer.

We really should learn to understand each other...
As a kid, my family used to pray the rosary daily, by either sitting or kneeling in front of the "altar."
My grandmother would often tell me to fix my eyes on the statue of Mary placed on the alter while I said the Hail Mary. A large statue of Mary occupied the central position on the altar. Statues of "infant Jesus" and saints were placed around her. A flickering electric bulb in the shape of a cross was placed in the centre front of the altar, with candle stands besides the cross bulb.

As I grew up and began to read the story bible, I began to take interest in the things of God. I often felt that my grandmother had no basis for forcing me to look at the Statue of Mary while praying. Therefore I once asked her, "Grandma, why do you force me to look at the statue and pray, as if Mary is actually present inside the statue? She said, " Yes, off course! Mary IS present inside the statue
:mad:! Please don't say these things again!"

My grandmother was wrong! This is just one of such instances. I can quote many!

I ignored it, as my grandmother had never been to school. But I later learned that schooling has nothing to do with it. (Peter was an unschooled ordinary man.) The problem was that she had been indoctrinated with the Catholic dogma her entire life, and was never encouraged to remove the Catholic spectacles and to sincerely read the Bible in a true sense.

So, I again disagree with you. Catholics actually bow down before, kneel down before, kiss, venerate, pray to, worship, put garlands on, say novena's to ....etc the statue of Mary.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Exodus 20:4

A graven image is nothing but an idol made in the shape of a heavenly being(in the heaven above), a human man or a woman(in the earth beneath), a fish or reptile, etc(in the water).

God is the same, and his commandments are the same.
 

AllenW

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Romans 3:23;
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"...

So which one of you is better than a catholic?
I imagine some of them might put us to shame.