God's Commandment For Women Not To Speak In Church

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NoNameMcgee

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Psalms 11:5 - The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.


Isaiah 60:18 - Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.

Matthew Chapter 5


38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Hebrews 10:30 - For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Romans 13:4 - For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Romans 14:1 - Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, [but] not to doubtful disputations.
 

Zen

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What I find hurtful about beatings....I was raised in a family that did not give verbal instruction, until after the beating, as if I was suppose to know everything already. I even obeyed, and got beatings. My mother would tell us younger kids, as she was a single mother "Listen to your older brother, or you will get it!" My brother would lead us into sinning by commandment, and with "You heard what mom said!" Than when she got hold of what we did, we got beat. Than she noticed whippings was not effecting some of the kids (They would laugh), so she started smashing all of us younger kid's heads together, or against walls. She even put knives to my throat, and threaten to kill me or us. It drove me to rebellion, not correction!
Poor you, though. Honestly that's awful. The whole reason for punishment to correct people is because you love them, beating people for the sake of it is abuse.
 
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Natania needs to stay calm....... don't explode...... ugh.........
 

Child

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Beating almost never lead to correction. Beating is a manifestation of anger, not love.
 
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The above alone should make you question the insertion of 1 Cor. 14:34,35. Many scholars have commentaries regarding this section of scripture being inserted . . . Alan F. Johnson, PhD, Dallas Theological Seminary, (The IVP New Testament Commentary Series; 1 Corinthians (interVarsity Press, Downers Grove, IL< 2004) p. 271 Simon Kistemaker, 1 Corinthians (Baker Academic, Grand Rapids, MI, 19913), p. 511; Richard Horsley, The Abingdon New Testatment Commentaries (Abingdon Press, Nashville, TN. 1998), p 188; Anthony Thiselton, Professor of Theology, The New International Greek Testament Commentary: The Epistle to the First Corinthians (William B. Eerdmans Publishing Co., Grand Rapides, MI 2000), p. 1150
I read it all today. Now the bible got errors in it? Well how do we know this verse aint added and that verse aint added. Every verse i dont like is probably just inserted in there i gots a feeling! Maybe some of these theologians will agree with me and verify my opinion.

Aiight moderators im finna jet remove me now! where do I go i cant find it in the settings, this is pure madness.
 
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Zen

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Beating almost never lead to correction. Beating is a manifestation of anger, not love.
If we go by this logic it implies God doesn't love the people He gets angry at. Since you know for a fact that scripture proves you wrong, can you please post scripture and sound doctrine instead of arguing against someone because you think they are a monster?

Revelation 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke andchasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Hebrews 12:7
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
 

proverbs35

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You're out here talking about beating up women and my posts make you laugh? Bro....... how low can you go? Now we know that you have serious hatred issues, not only with ethnicities but with 50% of the world's population as well.
Thank the Lord you aint married though! I would feel bad for your future wife.

I aint gonna lie im finna leave this forum real quick a bunch of weirdos on here.
You can correct someone without hitting them. Why don't you see this?
Um... Because he doesn't want to see it.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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If we go by this logic it implies God doesn't love the people He gets angry at. Since you know for a fact that scripture proves you wrong, can you please post scripture and sound doctrine instead of arguing against someone because you think they are a monster?

Revelation 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke andchasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Hebrews 12:7
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
you sure love using the Word out of context

its a shame you dont take the time to seek God

instead youre trying to push your perverted beliefs


you need help
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you need Jesus
 
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Zi

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Zen, you can't control people. We all face things and circumstances that we don't like that are caused by people.. We have to entrust ourselves to God who repays.. not just go on a rampage because they aren't acting right.. Sin is in the world.. you hurt yourself by carrying on about it.. it's a bigger problem than you.. especially when we wrestle not against flesh and blood.. Quit excusing by comparison of Bible women and get out of the enemies trap that has you bound...
 
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Zi

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When people focus on the bad it's all they notice..
 
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Tabitha4thelord

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Zen Zen Zen, Oh Zen
as far as I can tell
there really isn't anything Zen about you!
 

proverbs35

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You're out here talking about beating up women and my posts make you laugh? Bro....... how low can you go? Now we know that you have serious hatred issues, not only with ethnicities but with 50% of the world's population as well.
Thank the Lord you aint married though! I would feel bad for your future wife.

I aint gonna lie im finna leave this forum real quick a bunch of weirdos on here.
you weak kneed attempt at correction is duly noted and hopefully more will report you...
I reported Zen for encouraging and promoting domestic violence.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Zen Zen Zen, Oh Zen
as far as I can tell
there really isn't anything Zen about you!
lol im done

his fruits are hanging for everyone to see


hes unforgiving
hes vile and rude
hes ignorant of Gods word and perverting it for his love of violence

he hates his brothers and sisters

he has lied and twisted my words

and he suuure loves to argue and debate



zen

i will pray for you

i hope youre not already reprobate
 

Nautilus

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It should be noted that God has used women in outreach ministry and so they are allowed to post in christian forums.

But it is time to discern with the Lord in according to His words why women are commanded not to speak in church. The importance of this should add another line of discernment as to why His gift of tongues would not be manifested in women in church.

1 Timothy 2:[SUP]11 [/SUP]Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.[SUP] 12 [/SUP]But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.[SUP]13 [/SUP]For Adam was first formed, then Eve.[SUP]14 [/SUP]And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

I get the reference that because Adam was created first before Eve, and since he heard the commandment not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, whereas after Eve was created, she heard that commandment from Adam, man was to receive the word of God first and pass it on to the women. The fault in the fall of man was that man listened to the woman as referenced above.

Again, we get that referenced below as being a commandment from the Lord.

1 Corinthians 14:[SUP]34 [/SUP]Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.[SUP]35 [/SUP]And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.[SUP] 36 [/SUP]What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?[SUP] 37 [/SUP]If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.[SUP]38 [/SUP]But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

There is more.

1 Corinthians 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Ephesians 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Ephesians 5:[SUP]22[/SUP]Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.[SUP] 23 [/SUP]For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.[SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Why was it a commandment since the fall? God said so.

Genesis 3:[SUP]16 [/SUP]Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Now les any husband or pastor as a husband thinks about abusing his authority over the wife.... do remember this;

Matthew 25:[SUP]40 [/SUP]And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

AND...

1 Corinthians 7:[SUP]32 [/SUP]But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:[SUP] 33 [/SUP]But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.[SUP]34 [/SUP]There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.

Finally... in closing....for the godly husbands

Ephesians 5:
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;[SUP]26 [/SUP]That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,[SUP]27 [/SUP]That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.[SUP] 28 [/SUP]So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.[SUP] 29 [/SUP]For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:[SUP]30 [/SUP]For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.[SUP] 31 [/SUP]For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.[SUP] 32 [/SUP]This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.[SUP]33 [/SUP]Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

That is the order and decency of things as to why the Lord commanded women not to speak in church.

And since that is His commandment, then that is NOT the Holy Spirit manifesting tongues without interpretation in women in church. God does not break His own commandment. That is another line of discernment for tongue speakers, both male and female that defends tongues without interpretation, to take it to Jesus at that throne of grace and pray normally, asking for wisdom & discernment over this tongue which comes with no interpretation.

Again, as a reminder, God uses women in outreach ministry and as missionaries & so they are allowed to edify in christian forums. May God cause the increase this day.

I agree tongues are foolish and unnecessary.
 

Enow

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We went from the Lord's commandment for women not to speak in church to physical assault and now the rod used by parents to correct children.

May I ask anyone that has a problem with the OP to address the OP and correct it by the scripture or at least attempt to refute the application of the scripture for what is plainly written if you believe the OP is wrong? Thanks.
 

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I have spanked my child, but only when I knew they understood what they did was wrong. It was a spanking, and it did make them wail with tears...but I never exerted my strength into bruising, and I would calmly explain in love why I did it. My daughter said she would never spank her children...I let her have her way on her thoughts. When she got older, and had her first child, she came to me. "Mom, Luke will not stop playing with electrical cords, I've tried everything!" I asked "Did you swat him on the butt?" She was scared, about abuse. I explained about doing it in a way, that was not abuse, and according to age.
The next time he did it, she swatted him once, and he did not do it again! She is a wonderful mother, and my grand babies listen well!
 
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Tabitha4thelord

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lol im done

his fruits are hanging for everyone to see


hes unforgiving
hes vile and rude
hes ignorant of Gods word and perverting it for his love of violence

he hates his brothers and sisters

he has lied and twisted my words

and he suuure loves to argue and debate



zen

i will pray for you

i hope youre not already reprobate
Amen to that!!!!!