For Non Tongue Speakers Only

[pottersclay]

O yeah....well im gonna start a thread for tongue speakers ..and ....and ...and....I dont care if you come on to it because you wont know whats being said....ha...ha....ha


you spiritual wannabees...........take that.....

 

[shrume]

I am not so good in linking:-( Its Post Nr. 613 and 614 in the thread "Benefits of speaking praying and singing in tongues."
Thank you!

I responded, wolf.

 

[CS1]

This thread is for non tongue speakers to be free to edify one another and sharing short videos exposing tongues without interpretation which is also not being understood by a foreigner as not of the Lord.

I just think that a thread should be provided so that tongue speakers will not feel victimized as we share videos and criticize the videos in according to His words or add to the video, edification so that those whom are on the fence about that kind of tongue, the Lord may help them not to seek after it, but after the gift of prophesy instead as Paul instructed.

1 Corinthians 14:1Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.....[SUP]20 [/SUP]Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.[SUP]21 [/SUP]In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.
The devil's tongues which is vain & profane babbling existed in the world before Pentecost; therefore since we are to prove all things and abstain from all appearances of evil, God's gift of tongues can never be just vain & profane babbling.

1 Thessalonians 5:[SUP]21 [/SUP]Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Isaiah 8:[SUP]19 [/SUP]And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

Here is a short video of a fellow believer reproving vain tongue speakers for using Mark 16:17-18 for that kind of tongue.

I point out though that he should have clarified that no one is to test the Lord our God by that reference of Mark 16:17-18 as Paul did not do that when he was attacked by a viper in that other reference that the guy talked about in reproving using Mark 16:17-18 in that way.

[video=youtube;eRVomV3PgOw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRVomV3PgOw[/video]

To add to this video... he had referred to Revelation 13:13, but I would point out the warning to the church at Thyatira as speaking in tongues without interpretation as speaking the utter depths of Satan for which they speak.

Revelation 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;[SUP] 19 [/SUP]I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.[SUP] 20 [/SUP]Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.[SUP] 21 [/SUP]And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.[SUP] 22 [/SUP]Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.[SUP]23 [/SUP]And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.[SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.[SUP]25 [/SUP]But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

If any of you like to share a short video from Youtube to expose that kind of tongues as not of the Lord, feel free to do so.

You can even share a video by a vain tongue speaker to reprove it by commentary with scripture if you prefer.

I can't stop those who defend tongues from replying, but I thought it would be nice to have just a thread where tongue speakers do not feel like they are being victimized for having that kind of tongue to avoid this thread altogether.

I believe in God's gift of tongues to speak unto the people, but all believers when zealous for spiritual gifts, are to seek the gift of prophesy which is to edify the body of believers in your normal tongue. Seek that instead of tongues.

what do you mean you not know what we are talking about ?

is the above your post opener or not?

did you or did you not post the above as the person for edification?

did you or did you not say " If any of you like to share a short video from Youtube to expose that kind of tongues as not of the Lord, feel free to do so."

this was your example to expose one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit was not of them Lord. Now you are running away from it? This Bible Flock Box was your rebuttal to what you say Pentecostals tongues talkers do is not of God .

Yet your Guy " Greg " attacks the trinity , Hell torment, and a member of SDA. Why would you use a false teacher to make a point about what you say is not of God ?

then try to cover it up with " for non tongues talkers only" . Do you hold that the Trinity is not biblical an d of the devil created by a pagan religion like Hinduism ? Your Video Greg does ? and you used him as a valid source.


lol now your trying to flip the scrip ?
those who are not for tongues You have that right to believe that and guess what You ares till saved and have the Holy Spirit.

But If you are in line with Enow and his teacher from "Bible Flock box and aka not a real name "Greg" and believe in the trinity you are of the devil and holding to a pagan belief .

Enow you can close your own thread if you like I think the very first post of your thread says it all everything else after in Moot ahahahha .

and no matter what you say about me I did not post this thread ...... you did lol.

 

[CS1]

Thanks for sharing. Here is the OP and my reply to that OP.



Some of that in that list can apply to all the posters in this forum.. like #1.

And you are still found wanting. You did not site a source by any link to prove your claims. Stop wasting everybody's time and site a link.

By the way, if you get caught in a trespass in teaching something wrong, does that put you out as a joke as well?

It is not supposed to be funny when believers go astray, but here you are... and a mod too.

Believers are to correct and edify in order to grow in our walk with Him. If you said something wrong or teach something not Biblical, does that discount everything else you had said or taught that was true? If we all judged like that in condemning the person in that way, nobody would be edifying any one, let alone correcting any one.

By the way, christian forums is not really a great site either when believers are coming in with false teachings all the time.

We are to prove all things by Him and by His words as kept in the KJV, and that includes Youtubes and this christian forum, and even the church you go to including your favorite pastor.

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That was the reply above.

Now I have to go and see if I can find what it is he is talking about. I do not doubt that he may be of a cult, but CS1 just saying so without a source link is getting old. Why should we believe anything that he posted without a source if he wants to make that point?

And any christian can say nine truths and one lie which is why we are to prove all things by Him. No one should take any one at their word here or in Youtube. That is why I had asked in the OP to criticize any videos shared and he is not even doing it in this thread and I had asked CS1 to prove it. CS1 is just mouthing off in another thread with no proof still and he thinks it is funny.

I guess I will have to look for it then. Makes me wonder if he is laughing at himself for failing his own criteria from Foxworthy.

maybe you should have looked before you used him as a valid source . And I am not the one who posted this thread you did LOL

 

[Enow]

what do you mean you not know what we are talking about ?

is the above your post opener or not?

did you or did you not post the above as the person for edification?

did you or did you not say " If any of you like to share a short video from Youtube to expose that kind of tongues as not of the Lord, feel free to do so."

this was your example to expose one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit was not of them Lord. Now you are running away from it? This Bible Flock Box was your rebuttal to what you say Pentecostals tongues talkers do is not of God .

No. I shared a video for all non tongue speakers to discuss and criticize. I shall point it out to you again as you had quoted the whole post of the OP but overlooked that one paragraph on purpose too as I repost it again.

"I just think that a thread should be provided so that tongue speakers will not feel victimized as we share videos and criticize the videos in according to His words or add to the video, edification so that those whom are on the fence about that kind of tongue, the Lord may help them not to seek after it, but after the gift of prophesy instead as Paul instructed."

Yet your Guy " Greg " attacks the trinity , Hell torment, and a member of SDA. Why would you use a false teacher to make a point about what you say is not of God ?

He did not do that in the video shared.

then try to cover it up with " for non tongues talkers only" . Do you hold that the Trinity is not biblical an d of the devil created by a pagan religion like Hinduism ? Your Video Greg does ? and you used him as a valid source.

No. I used his video to talk about tongues without interpretation. I did not use any other video in this thread to talk about any thing else but tongues without interpretation.

This christian chat forum has false teachings being presented in it. Should we go around black listing this site because there are false teachings in it?

We are supposed to prove all things by every one and everything and I had asked for criticism on the video shared; not on everything that guy is about or all the videos he has made.

lol now your trying to flip the scrip ?
those who are not for tongues You have that right to believe that and guess what You ares till saved and have the Holy Spirit.

But If you are in line with Enow and his teacher from "Bible Flock box and aka not a real name "Greg" and believe in the trinity you are of the devil and holding to a pagan belief .

I am not in line with Bible Flock Box ..... I have yet to see his association with SDA too. I see his videos on the sabbath but no mention of being affiliated with SDA yet. I wish you would point that out where he can be seen as associated with SDA.

Enow you can close your own thread if you like I think the very first post of your thread says it all everything else after in Moot ahahahha .

and no matter what you say about me I did not post this thread ...... you did lol.

Yes... amazing how it lacks that christian love when it suits you of which you accuse me of not having and have been trying to ban me by it too.

But if you think I will delete a thread to save face for what? To discuss the videos on tongues & be free to criticize it? I am open to that discussion. You can delete your own thread to save face.

If I wanted to talk about other issues, fine.... but that would be off topic.

You are free to criticize the video presented in keeping with the topic, which you haven't really done that yet.

I acknowledge the false teaching of his videos on the sabbath day, but I have yet to peruse the other videos of the alleged false teachings that you have laid claim to.

Do you have a source that links him to SDA or not? He may just be someone that believes in keeping the sabbath day. As it is, I have yet to confirm your claims to other videos on false teachings and if it be true, it can be reproved by scripture... BUT AGAIN, you have yet to reprove the two videos presented to reprove them by scripture. Why is that? Because you can't, that is why not. You come across as someone that can't reprove those two videos and so you attack the person behind the videos by referring to other videos that we can easily reprove by scripture, but not those two videos.

By your standard of judgment, we should condemn this forum for having all these false teachings in it, right? The forum should ban all believers that teach an error or have made a mistake.

All you are doing is deflecting from what God calls you to do and what this forum tells you to do and that is address the OP.

So.. for the last time.. link me to a source that confirms him to be SDA.

And feel free to reprove the two videos by the scripture unless you can't do it. Then I understand why you can only resort to attacking the person behind the video.

If I can reprove the videos that he has on the sabbath day by the scripture, surely you can do those two on tongues, but you are free to not bother and just be settled with your cheap shot by attacking the man in the video and not the video itself.

I have yet to confirm your alleged accusations of OTHER false teachings in other videos yet, but so far, there is grounds for checking them out.... if I had the time.

 

[Enow]

maybe you should have looked before you used him as a valid source . And I am not the one who posted this thread you did LOL

Again.. any one should be free to share a video to discuss and criticize the video in according to His words in the KJV which you have not done that but attack the person in the video by referring to other videos of false teachings as if that means the two videos presented in this thread is also false.

That is a dangerous precedent for then any video that is true by him, that you align yourself with as true, you would be claiming them as false by association only. You are to prove everything; just as there are Catholic teachings that are not true, but you can't say everything Catholic teaches is not true. Understand? Prove everything by the scripture.

 

[CS1]

No. I shared a video for all non tongue speakers to discuss and criticize. I shall point it out to you again as you had quoted the whole post of the OP but overlooked that one paragraph on purpose too as I repost it again.

"[/COLOR]I just think that a thread should be provided so that tongue speakers will not feel victimized as we share videos and criticize the videos in according to His words or add to the video, edification so that those whom are on the fence about that kind of tongue, the Lord may help them not to seek after it, but after the gift of prophesy instead as Paul instructed."



He did not do that in the video shared.



No. I used his video to talk about tongues without interpretation. I did not use any other video in this thread to talk about any thing else but tongues without interpretation.

This christian chat forum has false teachings being presented in it. Should we go around black listing this site because there are false teachings in it?

We are supposed to prove all things by every one and everything and I had asked for criticism on the video shared; not on everything that guy is about or all the videos he has made.



I am not in line with Bible Flock Box ..... I have yet to see his association with SDA too. I see his videos on the sabbath but no mention of being affiliated with SDA yet. I wish you would point that out where he can be seen as associated with SDA.



Yes... amazing how it lacks that christian love when it suits you of which you accuse me of not having and have been trying to ban me by it too.

But if you think I will delete a thread to save face for what? To discuss the videos on tongues & be free to criticize it? I am open to that discussion. You can delete your own thread to save face.

If I wanted to talk about other issues, fine.... but that would be off topic.

You are free to criticize the video presented in keeping with the topic, which you haven't really done that yet.

I acknowledge the false teaching of his videos on the sabbath day, but I have yet to peruse the other videos of the alleged false teachings that you have laid claim to.

Do you have a source that links him to SDA or not? He may just be someone that believes in keeping the sabbath day. As it is, I have yet to confirm your claims to other videos on false teachings and if it be true, it can be reproved by scripture... BUT AGAIN, you have yet to reprove the two videos presented to reprove them by scripture. Why is that? Because you can't, that is why not. You come across as someone that can't reprove those two videos and so you attack the person behind the videos by referring to other videos that we can easily reprove by scripture, but not those two videos.

By your standard of judgment, we should condemn this forum for having all these false teachings in it, right? The forum should ban all believers that teach an error or have made a mistake.

All you are doing is deflecting from what God calls you to do and what this forum tells you to do and that is address the OP.

So.. for the last time.. link me to a source that confirms him to be SDA.

And feel free to reprove the two videos by the scripture unless you can't do it. Then I understand why you can only resort to attacking the person behind the video.

If I can reprove the videos that he has on the sabbath day by the scripture, surely you can do those two on tongues, but you are free to not bother and just be settled with your cheap shot by attacking the man in the video and not the video itself.

I have yet to confirm your alleged accusations of OTHER false teachings in other videos yet, but so far, there is grounds for checking them out.... if I had the time.

NO you shared a false TEACHER WHO ATTACKS THE TRINITY . iN THE VIDEO you provided he did not but that does not change the truth of who AKA " greg is and what he stands for . I'm sure you would not use JW preacher even if they said something you agree with in the bible or maybe you would. I would not subtly submit this guy and Bible Flock Box as a Biblical source to refute the gifts of the Spirit , why ? because he is a false teacher. it is hypocritical to say those who speak in tongues are unbiblical and use a false teacher to prove it . You can do that but it will not work.

You are in line with Bible Flock Box because you used it as your source of Edification as you stated.

Enow not judging you just the the thread LOl. don't take it personal I provided the information as you did for edification and truth. God Bless have a good day.

 

[Enow]

NO you shared a false TEACHER WHO ATTACKS THE TRINITY . iN THE VIDEO you provided he did not

What is the rule of the forum? Stick to the topic and not go of topic.

but that does not change the truth of who AKA " greg is and what he stands for . I'm sure you would not use JW preacher even if they said something you agree with in the bible or maybe you would.

They speak in tongues. Would you use them to defend tongues? Probably not, but would you?

Catholic Charismatics speak in tongues. Would you use them for defending tongues? Probably not, but I really do not know. Would you?

All those posters that defend tongues in this forum and in agreement with your stance in defending tongues, would you agree with them on their use of tongues if they were of JW's , Catholic Charismatics, or other groups that you "might" cite as a cult? I think you have, but didn't notice. Nor me either. Not that I am going to go out of my way to prove that to you, but food for thought.

I would not subtly submit this guy and Bible Flock Box as a Biblical source to refute the gifts of the Spirit , why ? because he is a false teacher. it is hypocritical to say those who speak in tongues are unbiblical and use a false teacher to prove it . You can do that but it will not work.

Is it hypocritical when those of the cults use tongues without interpretation and you are agreeing with them without knowing their background? Just wondering.

You are in line with Bible Flock Box because you used it as your source of Edification as you stated.

No. I just shared a video from him about tongues for discussion and criticism. Then I shared another one for discussion and criticism.

You created another thread and used Jeff Foxworthy as a source as grounds to debunk that guy; can he survive your level of scrutiny to be used as a source?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Foxworthy

In 2012, Foxworthy endorsed Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.[SUP][20][/SUP]

Now because Jeff Foxworthy endorsed a Mormon for Presidency, should we discount everything he says about his beliefs in Jesus Christ?

Should we discount the list in that standard of judgment you raised about sharing videos now?

Well?

Enow not judging you just the the thread LOl. don't take it personal I provided the information as you did for edification and truth. God Bless have a good day.

Actually, all you did was noted someone as being in a cult of SDA without proving that. I had to go and look up the videos on the sabbath day teachings but he doesn't say he is SDA. He is in Poland. There are SDA's churches in Poland, but I would think I should find him saying he is SDA but I have not yet.... which you seem to know that he is without actually providing a video or a link to that so I can confirm what you say.

Edification? Where is the scripture you had provided? None. Truth? I am still trying to confirm your claim. You are not helping at all.

 

[Nautilus]

I speak in tongues but Paul says these are the least of the gifts. No brother or sister should ever feel victimized, I am sorry that has happened to you. G-d gives gifts as He chooses. The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!".... There are many gifts I do not have, some I do. All of us make up the body, with the gifts G-d has given us, and that is what makes us whole!

The fact you can't even type out G-O-D for God, just goes to show what truly warped sensibilities you have only further magnified by your nonsense about tongues.

 

[stonesoffire]

You do know there is an instruction not to quench the Spirit?

1 Thessalonians 5:[SUP]17[/SUP]Pray without ceasing.[SUP]18 [/SUP]In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Quench not the Spirit.[SUP]20 [/SUP]Despise not prophesyings.[SUP] 21 [/SUP]Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.[SUP] 22 [/SUP]Abstain from all appearance of evil.[SUP]23 [/SUP]And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.[SUP]24 [/SUP]Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.[SUP]25 [/SUP]Brethren, pray for us.

One of the fruits of the Spirit is temperance which is self control.

Galatians 5:[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,[SUP] 23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

And Paul says this about any believer when manifesting a gift by the Holy Spirit...

1 Corinthians 14:[SUP]32[/SUP]And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.[SUP] 33 [/SUP]For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Then Jesus said this about how we speak by the Spirit because His disciples may think the words they speak are their own when serving Him in the fields.

Matthew 18:[SUP]8 [/SUP]And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.[SUP] 19 [/SUP]But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.[SUP]20 [/SUP]For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

So understand when I say this, I do not have to feel any loss of self control when I speak for Him normally in prophesying. It is in that respect, I say about tongues without interpretation as circumspect as not of Him at all.

It seems logical that one would think that one should lose control of their tongue when it comes to God's gift of tongues, but that is not what the scripture says at all. When a tongue speaker testifies of praying normally and the "Holy Spirit" cuts in, interrupting his or her prayer, when scripture tells us that God wants us to pray.... then that was not the Holy Spirit cutting into that believer's prayer. No way.

It is time to go before that throne of grace and ask Jesus for wisdom about that kind of tongue which comes with no interpretation at all.

Perhaps volition was the wrong word. What I am trying to convey is both gifts come the same way. By faith. And one is never out of control.

I get a prompting with the prophetic whether I am writing or speaking. I hear words and begin, then they flow.

It is a great gift to desire; it can be revelation truth from the scriptures.

 

[Enow]

Perhaps volition was the wrong word. What I am trying to convey is both gifts come the same way. By faith. And one is never out of control.

I get a prompting with the prophetic whether I am writing or speaking. I hear words and begin, then they flow.

It is a great gift to desire; it can be revelation truth from the scriptures.

Thanks for sharing, even though I am not in agreement with the kind of tongues that you use that comes with no interpretation nor how you got tongues.

But thanks for clarifying, sister.

 

[stonesoffire]

It seems logical that one would think that one should lose control of their tongue when it comes to God's gift of tongues, but that is not what the scripture says at all. When a tongue speaker testifies of praying normally and the "Holy Spirit" cuts in, interrupting his or her prayer, when scripture tells us that God wants us to pray.... then that was not the Holy Spirit cutting into that believer's prayer. No way.

What you aren't understanding is that when you begin to pray in tongues, you are praying in the anointing. Switching to whatever native language you have, you are still in the anointing.

Praying the will of God out of Holy Spirit.

So much more satisfying to ones inner man. And the spiritual man becomes stronger than the flesh.

 

[CS1]

What is the rule of the forum? Stick to the topic and not go of topic.



They speak in tongues. Would you use them to defend tongues? Probably not, but would you?

Catholic Charismatics speak in tongues. Would you use them for defending tongues? Probably not, but I really do not know. Would you?

All those posters that defend tongues in this forum and in agreement with your stance in defending tongues, would you agree with them on their use of tongues if they were of JW's , Catholic Charismatics, or other groups that you "might" cite as a cult? I think you have, but didn't notice. Nor me either. Not that I am going to go out of my way to prove that to you, but food for thought.



Is it hypocritical when those of the cults use tongues without interpretation and you are agreeing with them without knowing their background? Just wondering.



No. I just shared a video from him about tongues for discussion and criticism. Then I shared another one for discussion and criticism.

You created another thread and used Jeff Foxworthy as a source as grounds to debunk that guy; can he survive your level of scrutiny to be used as a source?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Foxworthy



Now because Jeff Foxworthy endorsed a Mormon for Presidency, should we discount everything he says about his beliefs in Jesus Christ?

Should we discount the list in that standard of judgment you raised about sharing videos now?

Well?



Actually, all you did was noted someone as being in a cult of SDA without proving that. I had to go and look up the videos on the sabbath day teachings but he doesn't say he is SDA. He is in Poland. There are SDA's churches in Poland, but I would think I should find him saying he is SDA but I have not yet.... which you seem to know that he is without actually providing a video or a link to that so I can confirm what you say.

Edification? Where is the scripture you had provided? None. Truth? I am still trying to confirm your claim. You are not helping at all.

the topic maybe moot because you used a false teacher . Please remember it was you who used this guy in your first Post when you started the thread LOl .

You may not want to use Bible Flock Box and aka "Greg" as a source but you are free to do that. Not attacking you but your source which you may agree with "Greg's" teachings all of them like the trinity doctrine is of the devil. DO you hold to that ? It's ok if you do . Did you know he does ? If you didn't then your welcome

 

[Enow]

What you aren't understanding is that when you begin to pray in tongues, you are praying in the anointing. Switching to whatever native language you have, you are still in the anointing.

Praying the will of God out of Holy Spirit.

So much more satisfying to ones inner man. And the spiritual man becomes stronger than the flesh.

You do not need to pray in tongues for that to happen. Any believer praying normally are praying in the Spirit. Better to know what you had prayed for so you can give the Father's thanks in Jesus's name for answers to prayers.

 

[Enow]

the topic maybe moot because you used a false teacher . Please remember it was you who used this guy in your first Post when you started the thread LOl .

You may not want to use Bible Flock Box and aka "Greg" as a source but you are free to do that. Not attacking you but your source which you may agree with "Greg's" teachings all of them like the trinity doctrine is of the devil. DO you hold to that ? It's ok if you do . Did you know he does ? If you didn't then your welcome

Well I do thank you for pointing it out albeit, still waiting on your proof that he is saying that he is SDA , but I hope to get around to those other videos to confirm what you say even though you are not exactly helping in providing any link in that regard either.

I would think it is customary for posters to provide link to source to back up their claims instead of making people look around for it.

 

[CS1]

You do not need to pray in tongues for that to happen. Any believer praying normally are praying in the Spirit. Better to know what you had prayed for so you can give the Father's thanks in Jesus's name for answers to prayers.

But you can pray in tongue to as 1 cor chapter 12, 13, and 14 state . yes do not have to pray that way but you can

 

[CS1]

Well I do thank you for pointing it out albeit, still waiting on your proof that he is saying that he is SDA , but I hope to get around to those other videos to confirm what you say even though you are not exactly helping in providing any link in that regard either.

I would think it is customary for posters to provide link to source to back up their claims instead of making people look around for it.

not going to do your home work I have posted it in fact many here have seen it You responded to my thread it is right there.

 

[shrume]

You do not need to pray in tongues for that to happen. Any believer praying normally are praying in the Spirit. Better to know what you had prayed for so you can give the Father's thanks in Jesus's name for answers to prayers.

That's not true.

1 Cor 14:
14) For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15) What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

"Pray with the spirit" is speaking in tongues.

"Pray with the understanding" is "praying normally".

 

[brighthouse98]

Enow did you not see what I wrote??? LOL I said I believe in order 1 Cor 14:40 in case you missed that. I did not miss a thing. I am fully aware of what Paul finished,but the point you are not willing to admit the importance of the gift. When Holy Spirit falls upon the believer what gift does not the Holy Spirit have?? LOL

The manifestation of any gift is only limited to ones own mindset. While very true not all people have all gifts which manifest that does not mean the Lord could not manifest any gift from any believer! Personally in my 63 years I have never seen a brother or sister manifest tongues and not manifest prophecy to some effect.( 1 Cor 12:4-11) Many have the same gift in the Church but the effect that gift has can be different hence why all are needed in the body of Christ.( 1Cor 12:12-31) I wanted to make sure you saw verses 29-31 LOL

The more excellent way is the always open hand of LOVE! Many look at love as something to hold onto,but as Jesus showed also with Judas Love also sets free those who choose not to remain in the Lord's hand. ( 1 Cor 13:4-8) verse 5 Love never seeks its own! And verse 7!! The Lord never forces himself upon anyone, there is no bondage in Christ. Do not wish to be to harsh on you Enow but you seem to look more of what cannot be yours rather then what is yours.( Rom 11:28-32) Blessing.

 

[Enow]

not going to do your home work I have posted it in fact many here have seen it You responded to my thread it is right there.

Yeah.... something is wrong here, brother. I think you made an assumption, because he is not speaking against the Trinity, but for it. He says so around 11 minutes in the video here after going through a lot to prove the Holy Spirit is God and a distinct Person of the Trinity.

[video=youtube;HceaWkAtWY0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HceaWkAtWY0[/video]

And if anything, this guys is endorsing how to get the Holy Spirit as if believers do not always get the Holy Spirit at salvation...and so you have to ask for the Holy Spirit at 11:20 into the video...... yet he speaks against tongues? Seems like that is how people have been getting tongues by asking for the Holy Spirit as if they had not received Him automatically by faith in Jesus Christ whereas I believe you get Him at your salvation automatically.

I have yet to watch the rest of the video, but you were wrong about him speaking against the Trinity. You did not do your homework.