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The letter that Paul speaks to is directed at the assembly in Corinth and them receiving PAUL and company as from God......so.......again what is your point...if they were CONVICTED that would have been the word INSPIRED of GOD....NOT SORROW......
WE can ALL write letters that leads to SORROW, but not necessarily CONVICTION.....it seems you are ADDING your own flavor....
WE can ALL write letters that leads to SORROW, but not necessarily CONVICTION.....it seems you are ADDING your own flavor....
The only inaccuracies in red seem to be above this post.....every thing in red in EG's post is true...man what religion are you...serious? Do you just like to argue for the sake of arguing......WOW
Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull
No, I read you right, That's why I reposted what you said.
You said convict and chasten were the same
No, The lord rebukes them, he does not convict them, Again, Why does someone who knows something is sin need that sin exposed.
Because baby christians don't know it all.
He needs his heart exposed, not his sin.
You do not rebuke a person who is not a child of God, you convict them
Not true. The holy Spirit is the only one convicting anyone of sin.
We plant & water, but God gives the increase.
You do not convict a child of God, you rebuke, or admonish them.
Same thing here
this is where understanding of the English language helps and context help.
Yes, the word (translated rebuke) CAN BE translated convict It does not mean that is the WAY it should be translated. and notice how none of the English interpretors translated the word convict, but all translated rebuke, admonish, correct, reprove, There is a reason, the English word convict does not fit the context.
Originally Posted by eternally-gratefull
No, I read you right, That's why I reposted what you said.
You said convict and chasten were the same
No, The lord rebukes them, he does not convict them, Again, Why does someone who knows something is sin need that sin exposed.
Because baby christians don't know it all.
He needs his heart exposed, not his sin.
You do not rebuke a person who is not a child of God, you convict them
Not true. The holy Spirit is the only one convicting anyone of sin.
We plant & water, but God gives the increase.
You do not convict a child of God, you rebuke, or admonish them.
Same thing here
this is where understanding of the English language helps and context help.
Yes, the word (translated rebuke) CAN BE translated convict It does not mean that is the WAY it should be translated. and notice how none of the English interpretors translated the word convict, but all translated rebuke, admonish, correct, reprove, There is a reason, the English word convict does not fit the context.
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To me, that's what convict means.. to rebuke, admonish, and/or correct us.. 
the whole argument and cause of division is based on two interpretations of one word.
to me, convict does not mean those things, it means something else I am sure th Sam go s for grace777 and many others also
Fran
I know this isn't to me but I do have an answer because I just myself received this revelation. And I feel like "where have I been"? kind of feeling right now.
We are born into the Kingdom of Heaven and His ruling within us. There are laws in the Kingdom, called the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. They are not laws to control behavior such as in this world. They are the laws that work in the natural realm to bring about heavens ways to earth.
Our Father which art in heaven. Hallowed by thy name. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
I feel reborn...or I've come alive...don't know what exactly to call it. But, I'm different.
And I hope others catch this because it's wonderful.
I know this isn't to me but I do have an answer because I just myself received this revelation. And I feel like "where have I been"? kind of feeling right now.
We are born into the Kingdom of Heaven and His ruling within us. There are laws in the Kingdom, called the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. They are not laws to control behavior such as in this world. They are the laws that work in the natural realm to bring about heavens ways to earth.
Our Father which art in heaven. Hallowed by thy name. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
I feel reborn...or I've come alive...don't know what exactly to call it. But, I'm different.
And I hope others catch this because it's wonderful.
Well what kind of "fear" are we talking about? If you are talking about the fear of condemnation then I'm right there with you.
BUT, I had a very healthy fear of my earthly father. I loved him, and I knew he loved me, but if I misbehaved he was REAL dutiful in correcting me. Sometimes that correction took the form of verbally being told to stop. When that didn't work he might move to time-outs or grounding as we called it back then. If I didn't get the message after that I could expect a spanking of some sort.
AT THE TIME I DIDN'T LIKE IT AT ALL!
Looking back, I see that he didn't like doing it, but knew it was necessary so as not to create a monster.
Our heavenly Father has A LOT more patience than my earthly father or me, but I believe He will LOVINGLY do what is necessary to transform us into the likeness of His One and only Son.
And honestly Bruce, I thank Him for that correction. As I posted earlier I think He allows us to screw up and deal with those consequences. In those moments we DO NOT have on our FULL armor of God, and are vulnerable to the fiery darts of the enemy, UNTIL we put them ALL on. Each piece of which is another manifestation of our sweet Lord, Jesus Christ.
BUT, I had a very healthy fear of my earthly father. I loved him, and I knew he loved me, but if I misbehaved he was REAL dutiful in correcting me. Sometimes that correction took the form of verbally being told to stop. When that didn't work he might move to time-outs or grounding as we called it back then. If I didn't get the message after that I could expect a spanking of some sort.
AT THE TIME I DIDN'T LIKE IT AT ALL!
Looking back, I see that he didn't like doing it, but knew it was necessary so as not to create a monster.
Our heavenly Father has A LOT more patience than my earthly father or me, but I believe He will LOVINGLY do what is necessary to transform us into the likeness of His One and only Son.
And honestly Bruce, I thank Him for that correction. As I posted earlier I think He allows us to screw up and deal with those consequences. In those moments we DO NOT have on our FULL armor of God, and are vulnerable to the fiery darts of the enemy, UNTIL we put them ALL on. Each piece of which is another manifestation of our sweet Lord, Jesus Christ.
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I'd like to make an announcement.
All glory to God, today is my 7 year anniversary of being cancer-free.
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All glory to God, today is my 7 year anniversary of being cancer-free.
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