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FlSnookman7

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Amen.

OK.

So now we're saved.

Now what?
Did Jesus say we have stuff to do, or did He not?
THAT is he question these days...
When you ask God "now what" He will show you. Then you will bear fruit. You wont bear fruit to stay saved rather you'll bear fruit BECAUSE you're saved. I thought you were going to bed LOL I look forward to speaking about these things to you later. I however must go tonight. Shalom.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I know.
Christianity is a nutty "religion".

It's the only one where a person could go to hell because they stole a pen...

but end up in heaven even though they killed someone.

What makes the difference?
​was it because one worked to maintain their salvation and one did not?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Amen.

OK.

So now we're saved.

Now what?
Did Jesus say we have stuff to do, or did He not?
THAT is he question these days...
​the question of the day is are they really saved or not?
 

AllenW

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Which is worse,
bring a friend to CC,
or threatening people with reports?

Go ahead, justify yourself..... you've had plenty of practice..:)
Self righteous people.
I think there's a few things on that in the Bible.
 
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If I remember right there is a "last word" thread for all who just want to post for the sake of "winning"............just saying........
 
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If I remember right there is a "last word" thread for all who just want to post for the sake of "winning"............just saying........

lol.. Some people think they are something.. They preach we must obey the rules. but they break the rules themselves. then get all bent out of shape when someone calls them out on it..

 
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BeyondET

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Bump, I thought this thread was going to be locked, lol
 
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every mans work, or every child f Gods will be tried?
Every man's work. Some are coming out as pure ash, but every man's work, nonetheless. We aren't tried differently because we've been adopted. We just have the fire-resistant material surrounding us -- Jesus.

His work saves us! And because of that we want to be like him. I'd like to have a T-shirt at Judgement Day that points to my advocate Jesus. And says something like, "I know I did it, but he took my punishment."
 
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Every man's work. Some are coming out as pure ash, but every man's work, nonetheless. We aren't tried differently because we've been adopted. We just have the fire-resistant material surrounding us -- Jesus.

His work saves us! And because of that we want to be like him. I'd like to have a T-shirt at Judgement Day that points to my advocate Jesus. And says something like, "I know I did it, but he took my punishment."
so that would include the non believer, who will be delivered too God on the great white throne? Why are their works tried to see if they will receive reward or not?

As for the t-shirt, I want one too
:)
 
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so that would include the non believer, who will be delivered too God on the great white throne? Why are their works tried to see if they will receive reward or not?

As for the t-shirt, I want one too
:)
I think "White Throne Judgement" is a Christian theory that says there will be two judgement -- one for believers and one for everyone else. (I think. I don't know. Just kind of keep running into that conversation without enough interest to learn it.)

I go more to one judgement. Everyone is volunteered into it, like volunteering to do latrine duty. (And, for me, it really is like latrine duty, because I really don't want to face all the charges against me, even knowing I've been saved.) And then God divides the sheep from the goats/the wheat from the tares. So, yeah, even the non-believers are tested and failed. We're all tested and failed. The difference is some of us plead salvation through Christ. For those the Father has wrought/carried out, our righteousness is on the plus side from Jesus.
 
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I think "White Throne Judgement" is a Christian theory that says there will be two judgement -- one for believers and one for everyone else. (I think. I don't know. Just kind of keep running into that conversation without enough interest to learn it.)

I go more to one judgement. Everyone is volunteered into it, like volunteering to do latrine duty. (And, for me, it really is like latrine duty, because I really don't want to face all the charges against me, even knowing I've been saved.) And then God divides the sheep from the goats/the wheat from the tares. So, yeah, even the non-believers are tested and failed. We're all tested and failed. The difference is some of us plead salvation through Christ. For those the Father has wrought/carried out, our righteousness is on the plus side from Jesus.
Have you tried to study it before. In the NT we are told of two judgments where people are judged for their works. In rev 20, the great white throne, in 2 cor 5, we have the judgment seat, where each mans works will be judged.

If we investigate, we see two types of judgemnets based on two entirely different greek words being used.


Revelation 20:13
The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.


In this Passage the greek word wiht the root Krino "ekrithesan" is used, this word speaks of a court of law. where judgment is passed down on a person who has been charged of a crime, A guilty or innocent verdict is pronounced, and judgment "krino" is passed as to what must be done to pay for the crime committed.

In this judgment

1. All the dead are delivered to God, Children of God are said they will be resurrected by him, not delivered to him, plus they were born agan so they are not dead but alive
2. All who participate in this judgment we are told are found guilty and punished.


the second judgement mentioned,

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

The greek word used here is the root Bema "bematos" and was used in reference to the raised seat of the judge who would reward the athletes with the reward they earned. Based on the work they did, and the result of that work. It is the reward Paul said he continued to run the race for. It is the reward Paul said earlier where we will be tried by fire, if our work endure it will be given gols silver precious stone, but if it is bured we suffer loss, But we ourselves will still be saved,


1. Everyone here is here to recieve reward or lack of for all the work he did while children of God
2. All here are saved, even at the end, and not delivered to judgment.
 
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Have you tried to study it before. In the NT we are told of two judgments where people are judged for their works. In rev 20, the great white throne, in 2 cor 5, we have the judgment seat, where each mans works will be judged.

If we investigate, we see two types of judgemnets based on two entirely different greek words being used.


Revelation 20:13
The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.


In this Passage the greek word wiht the root Krino "ekrithesan" is used, this word speaks of a court of law. where judgment is passed down on a person who has been charged of a crime, A guilty or innocent verdict is pronounced, and judgment "krino" is passed as to what must be done to pay for the crime committed.

In this judgment

1. All the dead are delivered to God, Children of God are said they will be resurrected by him, not delivered to him, plus they were born agan so they are not dead but alive
2. All who participate in this judgment we are told are found guilty and punished.


the second judgement mentioned,

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

The greek word used here is the root Bema "bematos" and was used in reference to the raised seat of the judge who would reward the athletes with the reward they earned. Based on the work they did, and the result of that work. It is the reward Paul said he continued to run the race for. It is the reward Paul said earlier where we will be tried by fire, if our work endure it will be given gols silver precious stone, but if it is bured we suffer loss, But we ourselves will still be saved,


1. Everyone here is here to recieve reward or lack of for all the work he did while children of God
2. All here are saved, even at the end, and not delivered to judgment.
Blessed is he that hath part in the 1st Resurrection upon whom the second death shall have no power....2nd death being the Revelation 20 judgment and subsequent not being found in the book of life and being "cast" into the lake of fire.........
 
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[SUP]12 [/SUP]And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God,[SUP][c][/SUP] and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. [SUP]13 [/SUP]The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. [SUP]15 [/SUP]And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.