Earth is Flat and Stationary

[pckts]

If you cant format your posts normally, I will ignore you.

Stars, moon and sun were created in the verse one.

They were placed into the firmanent, i.e. made visible in the sky from the surface of the Earth in the day 3.

Also, try to use normal formatting without colors and size changing, its very bad and distracting from reading.

On what authority do you place verse 14
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Into verse 1?

You do this with figurative interpretation to fit the globe model, and ignore and rearrange the scripture to your own pleasing.

You also claim God created the stars, moon, and sun, before he created light in verse 3. On what authority do you make this claim?

It's figurative interpretation to satisfy the authority of man's science.

 

[Zen]

If you cant format your posts normally, I will ignore you.

lol

You're bending scripture to fit the world view taught to you by the world.

 

[pckts]

lol

You're bending scripture to fit the world view taught to you by the world.

And now he is looking for any excuse possible to avoid admittance of this.

He also refuses to acknowledge or defend bringing up how his knowledge of Greek translations informed his difference of opinion from us English readers. Other than saying "this word CAN mean this", even though the proper use is found in english, and the context it is used leaves no room for debate on the subject.

 

[trofimus]

lol

You're bending scripture to fit the world view taught to you by the world.

Or you are bending it.

 

[trofimus]

On what authority do you place verse 14
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

Into verse 1?

You do this with figurative interpretation to fit the globe model, and ignore and rearrange the scripture to your own pleasing.

You also claim God created the stars, moon, and sun, before he created light in verse 3. On what authority do you make this claim?

It's figurative interpretation to satisfy the authority of man's science.

I already said that. You do not listen.

1. "It was so." - it happened. And then the next sentence "And God made...." which cannot say He did it again for the secodn time, so it is a reference to the past event.

2. There were already waters in the beginning of terraformation. That means that if God created some specific things He uses in the 6 days, it was in the verse one.

 

[pckts]

Or you are bending it.

literal interpretation and context is not bending.

 

[Zen]

Or you are bending it.

Day 1: Heaven, Earth (+water)
Day 4: Sun, moon, stars

24 hour periods.

I'm curious, why do you want scripture to fit the heliocentric model? Is it because you don't want people to think you are stupid, or because you like having a certain amount of understanding regarding your environment? I can maybe understand you not wanting to lose the understanding you were given on the model you believe. But why does it matter? Surely the truth is better, even if it doesn't make sense or is ridiculed.

 

[pckts]

I already said that. You do not listen.

1. "It was so." - it happened. And then the next sentence "And God made...." which cannot say He did it again for the secodn time, so it is a reference to the past event.

2. There were already waters in the beginning of terraformation. That means that if God created some specific things He uses in the 6 days, it was in the verse one.

I listened, you did not listen or understand my response.

1. The past event occurs within the same day and the verse that proceeds this phrasing "it was so", or the actual verse "it was so" is contained within.

You place these events in verse 1, on what authority do you take these scripture out of the context, location, and "day" or "period of time" they are written, and place them in verse 1?

2. It doesn't "mean that", it states that waters were there in the beginning of the creation of heaven and earth. This doesn't mean or give you authority to state that "specific things" afterwards were created in verse 1. On what authority do you make this claim?

You rearrange biblical creation to figuratively create the globe.

 

[Bladerunner]

1) No.
2) No.
3) Ok, not against anything.
4) Sure, it is not eternal.

Do you say no out of lack of scientific data with results that even you can repeat OR

Am I to take the answers like a child's tantrum. No,no,no,no,no,.......

 

[pckts]

Do you say no out of lack of scientific data with results that even you can repeat OR

Am I to take the answers like a child's tantrum. No,no,no,no,no,.......

He has interpreted Genesis to match "scientific evidence", by rearranging the verses of Genesis and figuratively interpreting them to assemble the globe earth universe.

Although a flat earth creation would be literally and sequentially interpreted, he believes this interpretation is "bending it".

 

[trofimus]

literal interpretation and context is not bending.

Literal interpretation can be as bending as any wrong reading.

For example literal reading of "I am light of this world" can make Jesus to be our physical sun, which is silly nonsense, but... yeah, literal!

I am trying to show you some context in Gen 1, but it is too hard for you to swallow yet.

 

[trofimus]

Day 1: Heaven, Earth (+water)
Day 4: Sun, moon, stars

24 hour periods.

I'm curious, why do you want scripture to fit the heliocentric model? Is it because you don't want people to think you are stupid, or because you like having a certain amount of understanding regarding your environment? I can maybe understand you not wanting to lose the understanding you were given on the model you believe. But why does it matter? Surely the truth is better, even if it doesn't make sense or is ridiculed.

Before day 1 - the heaven (what you can see above your head - stars, sun, moon) and earth (our planet till the state it was filled with water all over).

Day 4 - Placing lights into sky and reference to who made them (before)

Surely not 24 hours.

 

[posthuman]

How cool would it be if people were as zealous for the gospel as they are for idiocy?

 

[dcontroversal]

How cool would it be if people were as zealous for the gospel as they are for idiocy?

Imagine a lost guy that you happen to open a dialogue up with......Hey man can I tell you about the flat earth......He looks at you with that "deer in the headlights" look......and in .0000012 seconds formulates an excuse to leave the conversation.........

 

[trofimus]

Imagine a lost guy that you happen to open a dialogue up with......Hey man can I tell you about the flat earth......He looks at you with that "deer in the headlights" look......and in .0000012 seconds formulates an excuse to leave the conversation.........

And that gravity does not exist, Einstein was a liar, well, almost every scientist is... and btw, nuclear weapons do not work.

 

[posthuman]

And that gravity does not exist, Einstein was a liar, well, almost every scientist is... and btw, nuclear weapons do not work.

The planets aren't planets, there is no such thing as satellites, the stars are electric lights, airlines waste billions of dollars in fuel flying in circles just to trick you, GPS and weather maps are a lie, the sun never sets it just gets dim....

... Btw let me tell you about religion

 

[posthuman]

Btw let me tell you about religion

Seems like actually flat earth is these peoples religion. I mean, is the gospel even in this thread at all?

 

[posthuman]

Or you are bending it.

To fit the worldview he was taught on YouTube...

 

[Zen]

Before day 1 - the heaven (what you can see above your head - stars, sun, moon) and earth (our planet till the state it was filled with water all over).

Day 4 - Placing lights into sky and reference to who made them (before)

Surely not 24 hours.

You didn't answer why you want scripture to bend to the world view.

You're also saying God can't do these things in 24 hour periods.

The 7th day was 24 hours, and God set it apart and commanded His people to remember it because it is holy.

How can the 7th day be 24 hours if the 6th day was a billion years?

Genesis 1:[SUP]16 [/SUP]And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

The 4th day, God made the Sun and Moon. Done after the earth, heaven, light and time.

Just accept the heliocentric model is garbage.

 

[notmyown]

Seems like actually flat earth is these peoples religion. I mean, is the gospel even in this thread at all?

Jer 31:31-34
“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”


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