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More of the day of the Lord from the book of Joel.
Joel 2:1-10 KJV
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
[2] A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
[3] A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
[4] The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
[5] Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array. [
6] Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
[7] They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
[8] Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
[9] They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
[10] The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
Joel 2:1-10 KJV
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
[2] A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
[3] A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
[4] The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
[5] Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array. [
6] Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.
[7] They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
[8] Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
[9] They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
[10] The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
The day of the Lord from the book of Joel. The bridegroom (Christ) went forth, his bride (the church) came out of her closet - she is revealed to the world.
Joel 2:16 KJV
Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
Joel 2:16 KJV
Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
that mean the day of the Lord Is destruction, it's may the destruction of the world, it do not say the destruction of Jerusalem alone.
It say listen to all who live in the land. Not only Jews, not only Israel. Land is not only in Israel. There is a land in Africa, or America in every country
2 Hear this, you elders;
listen, all who live in the land.
Has anything like this ever happened in your days
or in the days of your ancestors?
3 Tell it to your children,
and let your children tell it to their children,
and their children to the next generation.
4 What the locust swarm has left
the great locusts have eaten;
what the great locusts have left
the young locusts have eaten;
what the young locusts have left
other locusts[a] have eaten.
5 Wake up, you drunkards, and weep!
Wail, all you drinkers of wine;
wail because of the new wine,
for it has been snatched from your lips.
6 A nation has invaded my land,
a mighty army without number;
it has the teeth of a lion,
the fangs of a lioness.
7 It has laid waste my vines
and ruined my fig trees.
It has stripped off their bark
and thrown it away,
leaving their branches white.
8 Mourn like a virgin in sackcloth
grieving for the betrothed of her youth.
9 Grain offerings and drink offerings
are cut off from the house of the Lord.
The priests are in mourning,
those who minister before the Lord.
10 The fields are ruined,
the ground is dried up;
the grain is destroyed,
the new wine is dried up,
the olive oil fails.
11 Despair, you farmers,
wail, you vine growers;
grieve for the wheat and the barley,
because the harvest of the field is destroyed.
12 The vine is dried up
and the fig tree is withered;
the pomegranate, the palm and the apple[b] tree—
all the trees of the field—are dried up.
Surely the people’s joy
is withered away.
[h=3]A Call to Lamentation[/h]13 Put on sackcloth, you priests, and mourn;
wail, you who minister before the altar.
Come, spend the night in sackcloth,
you who minister before my God;
for the grain offerings and drink offerings
are withheld from the house of your God.
14 Declare a holy fast;
call a sacred assembly.
Summon the elders
and all who live in the land
to the house of the Lord your God,
and cry out to the Lord.
15 Alas for that day!
For the day of the Lord is near;
it will come like destruction from the Almighty.[c]
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It say listen to all who live in the land. Not only Jews, not only Israel. Land is not only in Israel. There is a land in Africa, or America in every country
2 Hear this, you elders;
listen, all who live in the land.
Has anything like this ever happened in your days
or in the days of your ancestors?
3 Tell it to your children,
and let your children tell it to their children,
and their children to the next generation.
4 What the locust swarm has left
the great locusts have eaten;
what the great locusts have left
the young locusts have eaten;
what the young locusts have left
other locusts[a] have eaten.
5 Wake up, you drunkards, and weep!
Wail, all you drinkers of wine;
wail because of the new wine,
for it has been snatched from your lips.
6 A nation has invaded my land,
a mighty army without number;
it has the teeth of a lion,
the fangs of a lioness.
7 It has laid waste my vines
and ruined my fig trees.
It has stripped off their bark
and thrown it away,
leaving their branches white.
8 Mourn like a virgin in sackcloth
grieving for the betrothed of her youth.
9 Grain offerings and drink offerings
are cut off from the house of the Lord.
The priests are in mourning,
those who minister before the Lord.
10 The fields are ruined,
the ground is dried up;
the grain is destroyed,
the new wine is dried up,
the olive oil fails.
11 Despair, you farmers,
wail, you vine growers;
grieve for the wheat and the barley,
because the harvest of the field is destroyed.
12 The vine is dried up
and the fig tree is withered;
the pomegranate, the palm and the apple[b] tree—
all the trees of the field—are dried up.
Surely the people’s joy
is withered away.
[h=3]A Call to Lamentation[/h]13 Put on sackcloth, you priests, and mourn;
wail, you who minister before the altar.
Come, spend the night in sackcloth,
you who minister before my God;
for the grain offerings and drink offerings
are withheld from the house of your God.
14 Declare a holy fast;
call a sacred assembly.
Summon the elders
and all who live in the land
to the house of the Lord your God,
and cry out to the Lord.
15 Alas for that day!
For the day of the Lord is near;
it will come like destruction from the Almighty.[c]
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Hello Jackson!
Paul starts off with "the appearing of our Lord and our being gathered to him." Then he makes reference to "the day of the Lord" which is referring to the wrath that follows the gathering of the church. It is the day of the Lord, the wrath of God, that Paul is telling the Thessalonians that "that day" will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed.
The problem is that you are confusing "the appearing of the Lord and our being gathered to him" with "the day of the Lord." Paul is warning them that the day of God's wrath will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed.. So the order of events is as follows:
1). The appearing of the Lord and our being gathered to him
2). The rebellion
3). The revealing of the man of lawlessness.
This is even supported by the following verses, which state that the One who is now restraining, which is the Holy Spirit working through the body of Christ, will continue to restrain until He is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed. The order is then, the Holy Spirit working through the church being removed and then the man of lawlessness is revealed.
Once the One who is restraining is removed and the church with Him, then the man of lawlessness will be revealed.
Paul starts off with "the appearing of our Lord and our being gathered to him." Then he makes reference to "the day of the Lord" which is referring to the wrath that follows the gathering of the church. It is the day of the Lord, the wrath of God, that Paul is telling the Thessalonians that "that day" will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed.
The problem is that you are confusing "the appearing of the Lord and our being gathered to him" with "the day of the Lord." Paul is warning them that the day of God's wrath will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed.. So the order of events is as follows:
1). The appearing of the Lord and our being gathered to him
2). The rebellion
3). The revealing of the man of lawlessness.
This is even supported by the following verses, which state that the One who is now restraining, which is the Holy Spirit working through the body of Christ, will continue to restrain until He is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed. The order is then, the Holy Spirit working through the church being removed and then the man of lawlessness is revealed.
Once the One who is restraining is removed and the church with Him, then the man of lawlessness will be revealed.
In the Early days Paul was habited to going to the Synagogue in each town to teach, he still had many who knew his background as a strict Jew, and would have been welcomed to teach. I did a lenghty study of Paul's Missionary style, and the Church at Corinth, so a lot of these facts came out of that Study. Paul was Teaching in the Synagogue in Corinth, for several weeks, and probably was staying with a leader of the Synagogue. He may even have converted a couple of the main leaders of that Synagogue, and that, plus objecting to some of the things Paul was Teaching, drove them to order Paul out of Synagogue. Titius Justus, a Gentile Convert that Paul converted to Christianity, then offered Paul a room and the use of his house NEXT DOOR, as a place for the Church to worship until they could build a Church. I never did find when they built that Church or where in town it was located.
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I was trying to locate where in Corinth the Synagogue was, and the house next door, which was where the original Church of Corinth was meeting, after Paul was asked to leave the Synagogue. I hoped to at least thereby pinpoint actually where they were located. I just found some additional information the gives us a possible (unconfirmed) Location:
The Synagogue
When Paul first came to Corinth, he naturally sought out a synagogue, as was his custom, to begin his Christian evangelizing. Not far from the entrance structure (propylaea) to the forum/agora on the Lechaion Road, a lintel stone was found with crude lettering: "Synagogue of the Hebrews." Since stones were often scattered from their original location by later destruction and some were moved elsewhere to be used in new construction, it is by no means certain that the original synagogue was in this area. Furthermore, this lintel stone dates from three or more centuries after the time of Paul. However, the size of the stone suggests that it may not have been moved far from its original location, and new synagogues frequently were erected on the site of previous ones. Since we know Paul lived for a time in a house owned by a Gentile "worshiper of God, Titius Justus, which was adjacent to a synagogue, it is tempting to think of his residing somewhere in that vicinity. Corinth may have had more than one synagogue; Crispus and Sosthenes are both named in Acts as the "official" (archisynagogos) of a synagogue, but the relation between the two and the synagogue mentioned is unclear (Acts 18:8, 17).
Corinth Biblical Significance
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When Paul first came to Corinth, he naturally sought out a synagogue, as was his custom, to begin his Christian evangelizing. Not far from the entrance structure (propylaea) to the forum/agora on the Lechaion Road, a lintel stone was found with crude lettering: "Synagogue of the Hebrews." Since stones were often scattered from their original location by later destruction and some were moved elsewhere to be used in new construction, it is by no means certain that the original synagogue was in this area. Furthermore, this lintel stone dates from three or more centuries after the time of Paul. However, the size of the stone suggests that it may not have been moved far from its original location, and new synagogues frequently were erected on the site of previous ones. Since we know Paul lived for a time in a house owned by a Gentile "worshiper of God, Titius Justus, which was adjacent to a synagogue, it is tempting to think of his residing somewhere in that vicinity. Corinth may have had more than one synagogue; Crispus and Sosthenes are both named in Acts as the "official" (archisynagogos) of a synagogue, but the relation between the two and the synagogue mentioned is unclear (Acts 18:8, 17).
Corinth Biblical Significance
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If all the historians that I have been researching, are accurate, and that stone with "Synagogue of the Hebrews" written on it, remained where it fell, face down on the Lechaion Road, we have a MAJOR CLUE. Because it was face down, all these years no one thought it was a significant stone, just another one that fell in probably an earthquake. Therefore, we may have a logical location for the Original Church of Corinth. When you enter on the Lechaion Road from the north, the small house immediately on the left, just as you enter the Corinth City Center, is where the Church of Corinth probably was meeting. It fits the documentation, and therefore it is logically the House of Titius Justus, where Paul stayed for a time after they requested Paul to leave the Synagogue. It is the house that the line crosses pointing out the labeled Lechaion Road; making the building next door the Synagogue of the Hebrews. That is my best possible guess, but going on what little information I could find, it is very plausible. One of the Historians that I researched mentioned that at the time Paul wrote 1 Corinthians, there were 50 - 150 members of the Church. So they would have been in the process of raising money to build a larger building for the Church at Corinth.
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Hello Jackson,
The characteristics of " the day of the Lord" in the old testament, is always referred as a time of fierce wrath and anger. A day of darkness and calamity, as can be seen be seen below:
See, the day of the Lord is coming—a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger—to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it.
The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light.
The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light.
I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins.
I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
I will make people scarcer than pure gold, more rare than the gold of Ophir.
Therefore I will make the heavens tremble; and the earth will shake from its place at the wrath of the Lord Almighty, in the day of his burning anger."
Therefore, in the scripture that you are quoting in 2 Thes.2, paul says:
"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come"
Therefore, Paul's reference to "the day of the Lord" is referring to the wrath which follows the coming of our Lord and our being gathered to him.
He first mentions his coming and our being gathered to him and then he refers to the day of the Lord, which is the time of God's wrath which follows after the church is gathered. Therefore, Paul is saying that before the day of the Lord, before God's wrath begins, that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and that man of lawlessness is revealed. So, the order of events are:
1). The coming of the Lord and our being gathered to him
2). The rebellion
3) The revealing of the lawless one
You are confusing "the coming of the Lord and our being gathered to Him" with "the day of the Lord."
So, you are correct with #1
I hope that this helps you to understand this.
The characteristics of " the day of the Lord" in the old testament, is always referred as a time of fierce wrath and anger. A day of darkness and calamity, as can be seen be seen below:
See, the day of the Lord is coming—a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger—to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it.
The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light.
The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light.
I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins.
I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
I will make people scarcer than pure gold, more rare than the gold of Ophir.
Therefore I will make the heavens tremble; and the earth will shake from its place at the wrath of the Lord Almighty, in the day of his burning anger."
Therefore, in the scripture that you are quoting in 2 Thes.2, paul says:
"Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come"
Therefore, Paul's reference to "the day of the Lord" is referring to the wrath which follows the coming of our Lord and our being gathered to him.
He first mentions his coming and our being gathered to him and then he refers to the day of the Lord, which is the time of God's wrath which follows after the church is gathered. Therefore, Paul is saying that before the day of the Lord, before God's wrath begins, that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and that man of lawlessness is revealed. So, the order of events are:
1). The coming of the Lord and our being gathered to him
2). The rebellion
3) The revealing of the lawless one
You are confusing "the coming of the Lord and our being gathered to Him" with "the day of the Lord."
So, you are correct with #1
I hope that this helps you to understand this.
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