The State of Israel - Authentic or Counterfeit?

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Is the State of Israel Authentic or Counterfeit?

  • Authentic

    Votes: 16 76.2%

  • Counterfeit

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • Total voters
    21
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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trofimus said:
He already sits there.


Already happened. Age ended in the 1st century.


Cut off except of remnant, yes. Momentarily? No, to the end.


Nonsense.


True. But we must add "believing ones only".


He has only one people - Church. Made of believing Gentiles and believing Jews, you already stated it in "e". So do not divide it again here.


If there even will be any millenial reign, this view is not well based in Scriptures at all.


Same like g)


He alread rules and He is not located in Israel, if you are again talking about that millenial view, same like g)
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Yeah you might want to rethink your views....I am fairly confident that DAVID had no throne in heaven.....so....since point one is moot...no sense in even addressing the rest....
 
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kaylagrl

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trofimus said:
He already sits there.


Already happened. Age ended in the 1st century.


Cut off except of remnant, yes. Momentarily? No, to the end.


Nonsense.


True. But we must add "believing ones only".


He has only one people - Church. Made of believing Gentiles and believing Jews, you already stated it in "e". So do not divide it again here.


If there even will be any millenial reign, this view is not well based in Scriptures at all.


Same like g)


Same like g)
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Hey!!! How have you been?! I haven't seen you round. I thought you may have left. Well we dont agree on this one but hope you're doing well. :)
 
Locutus

Locutus

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For Pete's sake......
 
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kaylagrl

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dcontroversal said:
ice cold beer here.....get your ice cold beer here.....feel like I am in Busch Stadium......get your ice cold beer here.....funny thing...his cult statement....I thought for a minute he meant those who worship King Jimmy
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Ha,I dont need the beer,I been sniffing paint fumes the last three days,home improvment. ugh. May need something a little weaker, got a lemonade there? Its been in the 100s here the last few weeks.
 
trofimus

trofimus

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dcontroversal said:
Yeah you might want to rethink your views....I am fairly confident that DAVID had no throne in heaven.....so....since point one is moot...no sense in even addressing the rest....
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David has not any throne anywhere, he is dead.

You must understand what that even means.
 
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pete9

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kaylagrl said:
"Others take comfort in numbers" Uh huh we know,you're the only one with the truth. You're Gods special soldier. Cant tell how many of you have come and gone. Could not be possible that you might be wrong on any subject,nooooo. So annoying, some of these newbies. smh
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How can I be the only one with the truth when you can't count the number of those who have come and gone? Maybe they left because it is rude to pile on to a newcomer just because he won't conform immediately to your wishes. Maybe you want this to be an echo box.
 
trofimus

trofimus

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kaylagrl said:

Hey!!! How have you been?! I haven't seen you round. I thought you may have left. Well we dont agree on this one but hope you're doing well. :)
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You know, summer.... :) Thanks...

I needed some pause from discussing.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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trofimus said:
David has not any throne anywhere, he is dead.

You must understand what that even means.
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Go study pal....every point I made is from scripture....not even going to address your fallacies....
 
trofimus

trofimus

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dcontroversal said:
Go study pal....every point I made is from scripture....not even going to address your fallacies....
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One can use Scripture to advocate for anything. It must be used properly and in its own time and context.

The same with people taking prophecies about the second temple and using it like if they were about the third one, in another thread...
 
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J7

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Habakkuk 2:11 The stones of the wall will cry out, and the beams of the woodwork will echo it.

This is an example of pathetic fallacy
 
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kaylagrl

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pete9 said:
I care whats going on because these stats help with my end-time studies. Is that unacceptable? I didn't see that in the rules..
I am glad you think I can have whatever opinion I want. I was "judged" left, right, up, and down for my opinions.. As a man of honor, I think a pile on is the worst and most disreputable thing. Did those who have opinions different from mine tread gently, or did they all pile on together with gnashing teeth. Kinda like a Stephen moment. When the Genesis 12 was brought up and I responded, no response to that, just attack me personally. How can one man bulldoze a who team that rages against him? I don't recall screaming and yelling. But one thing is for sure, you need conformity badly, such that even one guy can't disagree without being told he should have never come. That is rough.
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I cant speak for other posters,but Id think it would be polite to ask if you could use your stats in a poll for your studies.But thats just me.

I dont care what opinion you have. You made clear your opinion in the OP and you certainly didn't thread lightly.lol You lit the fuse,dont be upset when you get tough responses back. And no,you're not Stephen because people in a discussion forum disagree strongly with your thread.smh Christians are being beheaded overseas, you are not being persecuted in a discussion forum,people are simply disagreeing. Thats what a discussion forum is for. And then you said that anyone that disagrees with you are just doing so to be popular and stick with the "numbers". Supporting Israel is not the popular opinion,trust me. The Jews are the ones that have been persecuted for hundreds of years,not you in a discussion forum. Had you come wanting an honest discussion my opinion would be different. You didn't. Whether you come,stay or go,I could care less. Ive seen so many people here with a "I speak for God" complex thats its just getting really,really old.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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trofimus said:
One can use Scripture to advocate for anything. It must be used properly and in its own time and context.

The same with people taking prophecies about the second temple and using it like if they were about the third one, in another thread...
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Did I say anything about a temple? NO....and I am one of the biggest sticklers on this site about context and verbiage pal....so....every point I made is in scripture, in context and right....regardless of your inability to accept it or believe it..and that goes for your other pals as well
 
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kaylagrl

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pete9 said:
How can I be the only one with the truth when you can't count the number of those who have come and gone? Maybe they left because it is rude to pile on to a newcomer just because he won't conform immediately to your wishes. Maybe you want this to be an echo box.
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Lol ok,ok. This is a DISCUSSION forum. That is what is done here.Honest discussion. Which you do not want. So again,why are you here?
 
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J7

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It's great to see so much unity here; it's just a shame there are two sides on the pitch.
 
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J7

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Where I come from PALS is the Patient Advice And Liaison Service

Memories
 
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loveme1

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Why do people in worldly power go to the wailing wall with a covered head?
 
trofimus

trofimus

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dcontroversal said:
Did I say anything about a temple? NO....and I am one of the biggest sticklers on this site about context and verbiage pal....so....every point I made is in scripture, in context and right....regardless of your inability to accept it or believe it..and that goes for your other pals as well
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I said "the same with people..."

If you got from that that YOU said anything about the temple, I do not think you will be very good in understanding 3000 years old texts :)
 
Locutus

Locutus

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At least the general didn't call you "bro"...:cool:
 
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kaylagrl

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trofimus said:
You know, summer.... :) Thanks...

I needed some pause from discussing.
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Ya,I know! Its been 100 degrees here. It stinks because you're stuck inside just like winter when its that hot. I have to take my German Shepard for a walk at night its so hot. At 11pm it was still 89 degrees! I like warm weather but thats a little too much. lol
 
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