Not By Works

[JIMBO43]

Hey bro, be careful lets not act like that, it does not help, just state the facts and carry on.

you know some people will only act good when they fear ,,, i think this is your best quality... and maybe your redeeming one.. however you still need to apolagize to meggido for the way in which you ripped him apart like a savage

 

[stonesoffire]

Yes, which is why it would help if everyone would expose when others slander others, it would remove the ammunition of the ones who will do everything g it takes to take others down, even lie about what they believe.

I wonder if there is a scripture though that would oppose slander?

 

[JIMBO43]

ah...I see...but is it truth?

yup et has acted very imature at times... and very wicked to

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We do understand though Dcon. Our flesh just wants to do a slap...lol but we aren't flesh anymore thank God. Again...except for the grace of God...we all would sink and never rise again.

thats why it is good to have a brother or sister to slap us (Spiritually of course) because non of us are perfect, and we all can get carried away (well except for the people who do not sin lol )

 

[Stephen63]

so your going to

so your going to continue to yell at me, and ignore the person who started this to begin with by posing a bunch of stuff which is not true,

i am sorry you feel feel this way, do what you think you need to do, I will do what I think needs done, and hope we can clean up CC of these people who just want to push their views on others no matter who they have to take down to do it,

1. THERE IS NO YELLING. That's a false accusation.

2. (red) There are people trying to take others down?!? REALLY?!?
A. If that could be done, I would be doing it, cause I don't have enuff years to wait till an Admin does it.
B. If that could be done, You & dcon would already be doing it.

3. If you would quit making this stuff up, this thread would really calm down.

 

[BillG]

billy its never enough to say is never enough..it is time we all started staying Gods grace is sufficient for you to bare fruits.. no fruits no salvation.. thats not my fault and its most certainly not Gods fault..

I am not disagreeing with you. with regard to my repsonse you made about workers agsinst close down the conversation and not willing to discuss I was just saying that workers for salvation can also do the same.

Gods grace is sufficient for all of our needs, to grow in faith, to bare fruit to become more like Jesus.

 

[stonesoffire]

Out of the mouth comes from what is in the heart.
Change the heart and what comes out of the mouth will change.

The tongue has the power to kill.
The heart has the power to love.

A soft heart...wonder if that is a word...just a sec...

~Pro 15:1　 A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.
　
Pro 15:2　 The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouths of fools pour out folly.　


Pro 15:3　 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, keeping watch on the evil and the good.　


Pro 15:4　 A gentle tongue is a tree of life, but perverseness in it breaks the spirit.　

The whole chapter is good.

 

[BillG]

yup et has acted very imature at times... and very wicked to

How is she wicked?
What do you mean by wicked?

 

[JIMBO43]

I am not disagreeing with you. with regard to my repsonse you made about workers agsinst close down the conversation and not willing to discuss I was just saying that workers for salvation can also do the same.

Gods grace is sufficient for all of our needs, to grow in faith, to bare fruit to become more like Jesus.

ahhhhhh ok billy lad.. fresh begginings it is then

 

[stonesoffire]

thats why it is good to have a brother or sister to slap us (Spiritually of course) because non of us are perfect, and we all can get carried away (well except for the people who do not sin lol )

Grace 777 and Joanie do this with me by their words.
Pro 15:12　 A scoffer does not like to be reproved; he will not go to the wise.

 

[BillG]

uh oh...both of us have exposed our weaknesses....now what? I like mine. lol

I will get back to you when my wife gives me the correct answer

 

[Stephen63]

Nothing but mouth!!

Can't believed you just fixed your mouth to say that, LOL!!!

 

[JIMBO43]

How is she wicked?
What do you mean by wicked?

Just a wee bit to harsh

 

[BillG]

ahhhhhh ok billy lad.. fresh begginings it is then

And his mercies are new every morning.
Me you and everyone should walk in this truth for us given by God with others.

Fresh beginnings it is Jimbo, every morning and every minute.

 

[blue_ladybug]

I disagree that a brain damaged person cannot do stuff for themselves. I was born a bit brain damaged for lack of oxygen because of being held back at birth so the doctor could be there before I got born.. At about age 6, I developed epilepsy, which my doctors suspected was caused by the lack of oxygen at birth.. Every single day of my life, since I learned how to dress myself, feed myself, etc,, I have done just that.. Done it MYSELF.

It's a wonder I'm still alive. I got a bad back, bad knees, bad hips, bad heart.. Both sides of my family, physically the weakest people I've ever known..Seriously.. One grandma and grandpa died of heart attacks, my dad has a bad heart, so does my mom, my aunt Norma died of stroke complications, another aunt is about to die, HER heart is shot. They're all on my dad's side. Several on both sides have died of cancer, which I have had also. Not to mention both parents are showing signs of Alzheimer's, as well as my aunt who's about to die. And another aunt, her sister, died of Alzheimers.


So if one of these diseases doesn't get me in the end, another will. LOL....

A brain damaged kid/adult cannot feed themselves.
If it is severe enough then life support is given in the hope that the brain recovers.
If not it's switched off and the heart will stop beating and a final breath will bring death.

But a person can be brain damaged not physically but emotionally and psychologically and it damages the heart but they still live.

Live with a damaged heart that to me is also controlled by the conscious and sub conscious.
The conscious will have paradigms that control but also the sub conscious does as well.

So to me God heals the paradigms of the conscious and reveals the paradigms of the sub conscious.

I think of it as healing and renewing of the mind.

Conscious and sub being dealt with by the master surgeon

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I wonder if there is a scripture though that would oppose slander?

You shall not bare false witness?

Exodus 23:1
“You shall not circulate a false report. Do not put your hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.

Deuteronomy 19:16
If a false witness rises against any man to testify against him of wrongdoing, [SUP]17 [/SUP]then both men in the controversy shall stand before the Lord, before the priests and the judges who serve in those days. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And the judges shall make careful inquiry, and indeed, if the witness is a false witness, who has testified falsely against his brother, [SUP]19 [/SUP]then you shall do to him as he thought to have done to his brother; so you shall put away the evil from among you.

Proverbs 6:
A worthless person, a wicked man, Walks with a perverse mouth; [SUP]13 [/SUP]He winks with his eyes, He shuffles his feet, He points with his fingers; [SUP]14 [/SUP]Perversity is in his heart, He devises evil continually, He sows discord.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore his calamity shall come suddenly; Suddenly he shall be broken without remedy. [SUP]16 [/SUP]These six things the Lord hates,Yes, seven are an abomination to Him:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, [SUP]18 [/SUP]A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, [SUP]19 [/SUP]A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.


Proverbs 12:17
He who speaks truth declares righteousness, But a false witness, deceit.



Matthew 15:19
For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.

2 Timothy 3:
3 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: [SUP]2 [/SUP]For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, [SUP]3 [/SUP]unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, [SUP]4 [/SUP]traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, [SUP]5 [/SUP]having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! [SUP]6 [/SUP]For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, [SUP]7 [/SUP]always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.[SUB][/SUB]

There are many more but here is a few.

 

[BillG]

I disagree that a brain damaged person cannot do stuff for themselves. I was born a bit brain damaged for lack of oxygen because of being held back at birth so the doctor could be there before I got born.. At about age 6, I developed epilepsy, which my doctors suspected was caused by the lack of oxygen at birth.. Every single day of my life, since I learned how to dress myself, feed myself, etc,, I have done just that.. Done it MYSELF.

It's a wonder I'm still alive. I got a bad back, bad knees, bad hips, bad heart.. Both sides of my family, physically the weakest people I've ever known..Seriously.. One grandma and grandpa died of heart attacks, my dad has a bad heart, so does my mom, my aunt Norma died of stroke complications, another aunt is about to die, HER heart is shot. They're all on my dad's side. Several on both sides have died of cancer, which I have had also. Not to mention both parents are showing signs of Alzheimer's, as well as my aunt who's about to die. And another aunt, her sister, died of Alzheimers.


So if one of these diseases doesn't get me in the end, another will. LOL....

Sorry maybe I didn't put it right.
I meant brain damaged to the extent of being comatosed.

Sorry If my post caused any anguish, if so I never meant that and if anyone else has been caused anguish then I am truly sorry.

Truly gutted If I have caused offence to anyone.

Bill

 

[stonesoffire]

yup et has acted very imature at times... and very wicked to

who me?

Anything is possible.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Grace 777 and Joanie do this with me by their words.
Pro 15:12　 A scoffer does not like to be reproved; he will not go to the wise.

I have a few I ask to speak to me also.. Many do it in private, But I have no issue if they do it in public.

How we react is what matters, If we can not take discipline, we are in trouble Just like you just showed. Amen sis

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I disagree that a brain damaged person cannot do stuff for themselves. I was born a bit brain damaged for lack of oxygen because of being held back at birth so the doctor could be there before I got born.. At about age 6, I developed epilepsy, which my doctors suspected was caused by the lack of oxygen at birth.. Every single day of my life, since I learned how to dress myself, feed myself, etc,, I have done just that.. Done it MYSELF.

It's a wonder I'm still alive. I got a bad back, bad knees, bad hips, bad heart.. Both sides of my family, physically the weakest people I've ever known..Seriously.. One grandma and grandpa died of heart attacks, my dad has a bad heart, so does my mom, my aunt Norma died of stroke complications, another aunt is about to die, HER heart is shot. They're all on my dad's side. Several on both sides have died of cancer, which I have had also. Not to mention both parents are showing signs of Alzheimer's, as well as my aunt who's about to die. And another aunt, her sister, died of Alzheimers.


So if one of these diseases doesn't get me in the end, another will. LOL....

My daughter had the same, they call it cerebral palsy.. She is almost 30 and still has siezures, which sux because she can not drive.