THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

[Zen]

The star of Remphan has nothing to do with God, it's not the "Seal of Solomon" and it's not the "Star of David". It's a pagan symbol and it doesn't belong on the flag of God's people.

 

[Muzungu256]

if they want to sacrifice animals they are not christians............ period.
if they call themselves messianic jews and still demand animal sacrifices they arent even christians.......... looks like my suspision was correct if this is true........ no need to separate yourself into a "messianic" cult and not join a regular church, and keep insisting on circumcision for converts like the judaizers in paul's day........... i hope its not true that "messianic" jews who claim to believe in Jesus wna go back to animal sacrifices........ they havent read the book of hebrews (no wonder that monte judah guy said it shouldnt be in the bible).........
this monte judah also calls gentile churches mystery babylon and wants ppl to come out of them to his synagogue.......... not much has changed since Jesus' days

 

[VCO]

but paul said its already one in Christ 2000 years ago not in the future?????????
other than that i buy ur explanation VCO i think its good mon...... thanks...... so they are separate now but will become one in the rapture

Well that would be true, ONLY if you count the Dead in Messiah from the Old Testament. Technically from the Day of Pentecost after His Ascension on, Jews who Believe Jesus is their Messiah, just become part of the Church. But the Old Testament Saints and New Testament Saints become ONE FLOCK WITH ONE SHEPHERD at the Rapture.

That Day may bring lots humorous looks on the faces of prejudice Christians. God is the Author of poetic Justice, and if there are pews in heaven, I think those Prejudiced against the Jews will find a Jewish Believer in Messiah sitting or standing on either side of him.


The Messianic Jews have no problem accepting other Christians, because they believe we were Grafted in. But there are lots of Christians still harboring anti-Semitic views and think they are Justified in hating the Jews. Some right here on Christian-Chat.

 

[valiant]

Well that would be true, ONLY if you count the Dead in Messiah from the Old Testament. Technically from the Day of Pentecost after His Ascension on, Jews who Believe Jesus is their Messiah, just become part of the Church. But the Old Testament Saints and New Testament Saints become ONE FLOCK WITH ONE SHEPHERD at the Rapture.

That Day may bring lots humorous looks on the faces of prejudice Christians. God is the Author of poetic Justice, and if there are pews in heaven, I think those Prejudiced against the Jews will find a Jewish Believer in Messiah sitting or standing on either side of him.


The Messianic Jews have no problem accepting other Christians, because they believe we were Grafted in. But there are lots of Christians still harboring anti-Semitic views and think they are Justified in hating the Jews. Some right here on Christian-Chat.

if the jews in Israel (90% of which are not sons of Abraham by dna evidence) build a fourth temple God won't recognise it. God's final temple was Jesus Christ (John 2)

the true Jews are the true Messianic Jews, ie Christians

 

[VCO]

The star of Remphan has nothing to do with God, it's not the "Seal of Solomon" and it's not the "Star of David". It's a pagan symbol and it doesn't belong on the flag of God's people.

That line of thinking EXPOSES your Prejudice against the People of ISRAEL, God's CHOSEN PEOPLE.

A SYMBOL MEANS ONLY WHAT THE USER OF THAT SYMBOL MEANS BY IT.
They Call MEAN Star of David & Cross TO MEAN:
The People from King David who follow Messiah Jesus Christ.
IT IS YOUR THOUGHT THAT ARE EVIL, NOT THEIRS.

You then obviously do not know how many pagan religions have used the Cross symbol to MEAN something WAY DIFFERENT than we mean.





EXAMPLE:

That is the Congressional Medal of Honor. IT IS NOT A SIGN OF SATAN. It is issued for Bravery Above and Beyond the Call of Duty; and I will Salute the Wearer of that Medal every time I see someone wearing it; and I got out of the Military in December of 1972.

How about this cross in the center of this Aztec carving.

Another Aztec Cross.

Navajo Spider Woman Cross

 

[Zen]

That line of thinking EXPOSES your Prejudice against the People of ISRAEL, God's CHOSEN PEOPLE.

Typical Jew worship.

 

[VCO]

how does anyone know if they have bloodline ties to israel today??????? nobody has the dna of the patriarchs............


why cant they call themselves christians?????? christ said we are ONE in Christ no jew nor gentile why still do the difference?????? in the old days when someone converted to christianity they used the name christian

i think u are wrong on this mon because paul tells us that Christ is abraham's seed....... and if we are in Christ then we also are of that seed........... so i dont see how race still plays a part in it????? im not advocating for replacement theology either just going by what paul said there. no reason to get mad......

Some do call themselves Messianic Christians, but most call themselves Messianic Jews. My guess is that because most think they will have a part in rebuilding the Temple, before they are Called Out by the Archangel to meet the Lord in the Air; they had better hang on to the Title "Jews" or they will not permitted on the Temple site.

Actually because all the Records in the Temple were destroyed in 70 AD, many have no idea what Tribe they belong to, BUT GOD KNOWS. Apparently enough family records were kept by some of the Levittes, that they came up with enough to qualify for Levitte Priest Training.

As far as DNA, they are running out of graveyard space around Jerusalem. MANY Jews over the centuries have their loved ones buried around Jerusalem, because they know that MESSIAH is coming to the Mount of Olives according to Zechariah 14. They think if they are buried there, they may be the first to be raised from the dead. Actually if they truly believed Messiah was coming, they may be right, but not because they are buried there, but because of New Testament Scripture:


1 Corinthians 15:21-23 (ESV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.


Thus Able will be First.


If some of those early graves before 136 AD are marked with the TRIBE NAME TOO, sometimes DNA from the teeth can still be found. I do not know, but it is possible someone is already gathering that DNA information.

Mount of Olives Graveyard.

Mount of Olives graveyard.

 

[VCO]

Typical Jew worship.

Remember you said that; JESUS was a Jew.

 

[VCO]

VCO, some "marketing" pictures and videos cannot change any facts.

Statistics is not antisemitism. There are virtually no Christian Jews in Israel. Even 2% of population can make some few soldiers or some few big churches, but it is nothing relevant to population.

BTW Kiev is in Ukraine, not in Israel.

Mesianic Jews are keeping the Law. I hope you believe we are not under the Law anymore and that Christ is the end of the Law.

I think that it is not even the Mesianic Jews who want to build a temple (at least I hope they have so much of wisdom), but only unbelieving Jews.

THEIR MOTIVE FOR OBEYING HIS COMMANDS COME OUT OF THE NEW TESTAMENT.

THAT MOTIVE IS LOVE FOR HIM.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO START?



John 14:15 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If you love Me, you will keep My commands.


1 John 2:3-5 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] This is how we are sure that we have come to know Him: by keeping His commands.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” yet doesn't keep His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
[SUP]5 [/SUP] But whoever keeps His word, truly in him the love of God is perfected. This is how we know we are in Him:


1 John 5:2-3 (HCSB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] This is how we know that we love God’s children when we love God and obey His commands.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For this is what love for God is: to keep His commands. Now His commands are not a burden,

 

[Bladerunner]

So you admit that there is no real Israel in the state of Israel and therefore their plans or actions are irrelevant?

Judaism - 75% (but mostly culturally, they are atheists with the highest density of gay bars in the world)
Islam - 17.5%
Christianity - 2% (but these are mostly non-Jews living in Israel)
Unknown and others - 5.5%

Now guess how godly can their temple or any plans about it be. And also guess what group wants to build a jewish temple.



Messianic Jews or just and simply Christians from Jews in various Churches?

Messianic Jews live under the old covenant, do not eat unclean food, keep sabbath and you would surely do not want to be with them. They take the Law as still valid.

YOu are throwing out the baby with the bath water........ Remember...the BLINDED part....It is still in effect. The Church has not been Raptrued YET!

 

[trofimus]

YOu are throwing out the baby with the bath water........ Remember...the BLINDED part....It is still in effect. The Church has not been Raptrued YET!

So why to care about it at all.

 

[VCO]

So why to care about it at all.

Psalm 121:4 (ASV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Behold, he that keepeth Israel Will neither slumber nor sleep.


[video=youtube;mRoXRm9F91c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRoXRm9F91c[/video]


Psalm 105:8-11 (HCSB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] He remembers His covenant forever, the promise He ordained for a thousand generations—
[SUP]9 [/SUP] ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] and confirmed to Jacob as a decree and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
[SUP]11 [/SUP] “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”


Psalm 103:7-12 (HCSB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] He revealed His ways to Moses, His deeds to the people of Israel.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger and rich in faithful love.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] He will not always accuse ⌊us⌋ or be angry forever.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] He has not dealt with us as our sins deserve or repaid us according to our offenses.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is His faithful love toward those who fear Him.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] As far as the east is from the west, so far has He removed our transgressions from us.


Jeremiah 3:12 (CSBBible)

[SUP]12 [/SUP] Go, proclaim these words to the north, and say,

'Return, unfaithful Israel'.

This is the LORD's declaration.

I will not look on you with anger,

for I am unfailing in my love.

This is the LORD's declaration.

I will not be angry forever.



Genesis 12:2-3 (HCSB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] I will make you into a great nation, I will bless you, I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] I will bless those who bless you, I will curse those who treat you with contempt, and all the peoples on earth will be blessed through you.



2 Chronicles 9:8 (NCV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Praise the LORD your God who was pleased to make you king. He has put you on his throne to rule for the LORD your God, because your God loves the people of Israel and supports them forever. He has made you king over them to keep justice and to rule fairly.“



Isaiah 5:7 (NCV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The vineyard belonging to the LORD All-Powerful is the nation of Israel; the garden that he loves is the people of Judah. He looked for justice, but there was only killing. He hoped for right living, but there were only cries of pain.



Zechariah 1:14-17 (NCV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Then the angel who was talking to me said to me, “Announce this: This is what the LORD All-Powerful says: ’I have a strong love for Jerusalem.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] And I am very angry with the nations that feel so safe. I was only a little angry at them, but they made things worse.’
[SUP]16 [/SUP] “So this is what the LORD says: ’I will return to Jerusalem with mercy. My Temple will be rebuilt,’ says the LORD All-Powerful, ’and the measuring line will be used to rebuild Jerusalem.’
[SUP]17 [/SUP] “Also announce: This is what the LORD All-Powerful says: ’My towns will be rich again. The LORD will comfort Jerusalem again, and I will again choose Jerusalem.’ “

 

[VCO]

[h=1]Say to the Daughter of Zion - Israel's Hope [/h]
[video=youtube;mhB-0Ro6Uqc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhB-0Ro6Uqc[/video]

 

[Snoozy]

first i dont think its christians rebuilding da temple we dont need animal sacrifices. but da reason its going to be rebuilt is bcuz tha antichrist needs to make a contract with israel and set himself up there as god. so to all of you asking why da temple after Jesus da answer is simple: to fulfill that which was written.

 

[heartofdavid]

first i dont think its christians rebuilding da temple we dont need animal sacrifices. but da reason its going to be rebuilt is bcuz tha antichrist needs to make a contract with israel and set himself up there as god. so to all of you asking why da temple after Jesus da answer is simple: to fulfill that which was written.

Yes,and that second( third?) temple to be built will be part of the winnowing of Jacobs trouble. THE GT.


The GT is the gathering in the parable of the wedding feast.

Three attempts were made before the table had all seats filled

 

[heartofdavid]

The parables,the types,the predictions of Jesus,and the written word,all point to one template,the pretrib gathering with the stragglers joining them later in heaven.

Rock solid

 

[VCO]

That line of thinking EXPOSES your Prejudice against the People of ISRAEL, God's CHOSEN PEOPLE.

A SYMBOL MEANS ONLY WHAT THE USER OF THAT SYMBOL MEANS BY IT.
They Call MEAN Star of David & Cross TO MEAN:
The People from King David who follow Messiah Jesus Christ.
IT IS YOUR THOUGHTS THAT ARE EVIL, NOT THEIRS.

You then obviously do not know how many pagan religions have used the Cross symbol to MEAN something WAY DIFFERENT than we mean.





EXAMPLE:

That is the Congressional Medal of Honor. IT IS NOT A SIGN OF SATAN. It is issued for Bravery Above and Beyond the Call of Duty; and I will Salute the Wearer of that Medal every time I see someone wearing it; and I got out of the Military in December of 1972.
. . .

OOPS major TYPO. I warn you all it gets worse as you get older.

A SYMBOL MEANS ONLY WHAT THE USER OF THAT SYMBOL MEANS BY IT.
They MEAN for that Star of David & Cross TO MEAN:
The People from King David who follow Messiah Jesus Christ.

 

[Snoozy]

indeed its Jacob's trouble it says clearly. before i came to this internet page i thought da biggest problem in our end times system was post-trib or pre-trib rapture now i realize post-tribbers are bible believers atleast, i mean Lord have mercy we got guys on here saying the resurrection rapture second coming all happened already. im trying my hardest to tell em, how sad. why cant folks just believe the bible.

i actually got something relating to this article my brother VCO posted right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJpuw5-33y0

also brethren i would like to ask ur opinion of does da location of da temple matter?? there is some controversy over if its the temple mount or old city, both are filled to da brim with fakeistinians.
can some uso here say if tha precise location matters i havent found tha spot in any of my bible studies?

 

[Bladerunner]

if the jews in Israel (90% of which are not sons of Abraham by dna evidence) build a fourth temple God won't recognise it. God's final temple was Jesus Christ (John 2)

the true Jews are the true Messianic Jews, ie Christians

NO,NO,NO ..... The Jews that believe in Christ are CHRISTIANS.......

Have you tested 90% of Israel..... Rem, they called for potential priest by ancient names and DNA tested them for the tribe of Levi. There were no problems. They are this time are being trained for service in the temple.....

These non-jew sons of Abram are Kind of like the so-called lost tribes of Israel. The Northern and Southern countries each contained all tribes so there were no lost tribes....

As you see, Satan will do anything to keep his appointment with God from happening.

 

[Bladerunner]

first i dont think its christians rebuilding da temple we dont need animal sacrifices. but da reason its going to be rebuilt is bcuz tha antichrist needs to make a contract with israel and set himself up there as god. so to all of you asking why da temple after Jesus da answer is simple: to fulfill that which was written.

Snoozy have not seen you one these threads in some time. The Christians are not rebuilding the temple....They are most likely already gone before the temple gets finished. The Talmudic Judizers are the ones who do not believe in the Jesus Christ as the Messiah. They will rebuild the temple in order to bring down the messiah from heaven... At the timing of this, Jerusalem is surrounded by the "scourge" (antichrist/false prophet forces). Three years prior the TJs made a covenant with Death and HELL. The Antichrist was the enforcer (confirms) keeping all arabs, etc. around them from interrupting the rebuilding...He (antichrist) knows he has to have the temple rebuilt so he can defile it. It is in the cards.

You said: "to fulfill that which was written"....Dead on,,dead on...


Man can only see 10^-32 of a second into the future. All the rest is in the PAST... On the other hand God sees all... fulfilled Prophecy only glorifies God and guess what...... They will be fulfilled as written.....I believe you said that....

Have a good day my friend