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Ariel82

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Originally Posted by Meggido
No offense UG, but you really need to get planted and grounded...living off grace alone is as dangerous as living in works...

EG comment
No offense Meggido. But any root of any faith that is not grounded in faith will lead to peoples downfall.

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There we have it folks, to be "planted and grounded" is to remove faith in God's grace and place it in self instead.

Meggido said:
Had you been paying attention to our conversation you would know my terms used here, planted and grounded have nothing to do with your fleshly desire to entrap me as your foolish attmept here shows.....

UG stated she is not planted in a local church and does not need to be, instead she does studies with like minded people that share her views of grace...

My admonishment to be planted and grounded was being used in terms of her finding a solid Bible preaching church to learn more than just grace.....which we are told is good for us in Psalm 92.12-15 and ironically something you chide people to do all the time....

Come to full age....but thanks for manifesting your motives about me...it is not like it was never discerned before...


Psalm 92.12-15
The righteous man will flourish like the palm tree,
He will grow like a cedar in Lebanon.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Planted in the house of the Lord,
They will flourish in the courts of our God.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]They will still yield fruit in old age;
They shall be full of sap and very green,
[SUP]15 [/SUP]To declare that the Lord is upright;
He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.
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All it is bickering and fighting and y'all could all speak with more love to one another but that doesn't matter when everyone thinks they are "right".

Pretty much the conversation goes....

M tells UG to be planted at a local church..,.

EG comments about the Word "rooted" and implies that M is talking against being rooted in faith instead of what he was actually saying about being rooted in a BIBLE believing church.

p4t takes it a step further and falsely accused M of being against being grounded in faith and teaching works and self righteous justification.

M says that not what He means, clarifies but also gets mad and says some not so nice things to P4T

EG responds by accusing M of being a legalist and promoting church attendance even if the church teaches false doctrines...ignoring the key words "bible believing church"

And we have all the makings for bickering and a fight.

But who cares as long as you get to call the other person a slanderer and liar and yourself "mistaken" when you both commit the same sin of misrepresentation of others beliefs?
 
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JIMBO43

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BillG said:
evening friend.

There is a riighteus fear but that's not the love that casts out fear that I was talking about. If we have righteous fear then there is no reason to cast it out.


The fear I was talking about was a fear I had, frightened to come before God.
To me that's perfect love casting out fear.

Hope that makes sense
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we have to be worthy too befor we come befor him..:cool: just like he made his son worthy
 
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Ariel82

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JIMBO43 said:
we have to be worthy too befor we come befor him..:cool: just like he made his son worthy
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We are made worthy by being washed in the blood of the Lamb. Jesus righteousness allows us to approach Gids throne and be heard, because He cleanses and clothes us and is our intercessor.
 
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we can come befor him tho in prayer in the magical wonder land too chuckle
 
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Ariel82 said:
We are made worthy by being washed in the blood of the Lamb. Jesus righteousness allows us to approach Gids throne and be heard, because He cleanses and clothes us and is our intercessor.
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yup theres one thing being washed,,, but as you know its another remaining clean,, and its even another to not wash your brothers feet once in a while.. :(
 
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NoNameMcgee

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ahhh too quick

hahaha


(Jesus is God though)
 
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Ariel82

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JIMBO43 said:
yup theres one thing being washed,,, but as you know its another remaining clean,, and its even another to not wash your brothers feet once in a while.. :(
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Yeah offering to wash people's feet gets you a really strange look.
 
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JIMBO43 said:
yup theres one thing being washed,,, but as you know its another remaining clean,, and its even another to not wash your brothers feet once in a while.. :(
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How many of us would wash another's feet?
 
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Ariel82

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JIMBO43 said:
nope it was just agesture to make you stop your abuse on me as its quite ridiculous...
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Abuse? My mistake. Thought we were talking. If you think that is "abuse" I be sure to stop. Just don't complain if I don't answer anymore of your questions.
 
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Ariel82

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JIMBO43 said:
now you should of read that i said we can come befor God in prayer..

but you never you just looked for bad in me as usual :rolleyes:
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You need to stop listening to a made up conversation.

I acknowledged that you said we could come before God in prayer.

My only addition is that we do this in the spiritual realm NOT magical one.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Ariel82 said:
Originally Posted by Meggido
No offense UG, but you really need to get planted and grounded...living off grace alone is as dangerous as living in works...

EG comment
No offense Meggido. But any root of any faith that is not grounded in faith will lead to peoples downfall.

P4t comment
There we have it folks, to be "planted and grounded" is to remove faith in God's grace and place it in self instead.



All it is bickering and fighting and y'all could all speak with more love to one another but that doesn't matter when everyone thinks they are "right".

Pretty much the conversation goes....

M tells UG to be planted at a local church..,.

EG comments about the Word "rooted" and implies that M is talking against being rooted in faith instead of what he was actually saying about being rooted in a BIBLE believing church.

p4t takes it a step further and falsely accused M of being against being grounded in faith and teaching works and self righteous justification.

M says that not what He means, clarifies but also gets mad and says some not so nice things to P4T

EG responds by accusing M of being a legalist and promoting church attendance even if the church teaches false doctrines...ignoring the key words "bible believing church"

And we have all the makings for bickering and a fight.

But who cares as long as you get to call the other person a slanderer and liar and yourself "mistaken" when you both commit the same sin of misrepresentation of others beliefs?
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no offense ariel, but I think you are so desperate to try to bring peace, your not seeing the whole picture,

p4t did not need to see EG's comment to make the comment he made, he saw the exact same thing I saw. And commented as he saw fit, again, you can not even prove he saw my post first, (my post is betweem meggdo and his, so if he followed in sequence he would have responded to meggido post before he even saw mine, so your whole slam against me is not even probable, but based on assumption.

so for the third time can you explain how I misrepresented what meggido said?

Or or will I need to ask for a 4th time. At which point you will just prove you can not answer why, because EG did not misrepresent meggido at all,


question, can any root of faith not based on grace survive? What is your answer? Can you even prove me wrong?

 
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you cant see the face of God until you recieve your glorified body for duty served Ecclesiastes 12:13-14


Fear God and keep his commandments,
for this is the duty of all mankind. This is the work we must do all mankind saved and unsaved..
 
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