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eternally-gratefull

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Meggido said:
Pure eisegesis.....

The real EG always shows up when his "grace'" runs out and he lets the flesh take control.....his excuse is everyone else made him do it, because they started it first...his narcissism is only outdone by his lack of self control and his pious hypocrisy....
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Whateve dude, keep talking, all you do is make yourself look bad,

you never have anything thing meaningful to say, all you do is attack,

join your buddies on ignore.
 
Magenta

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JIMBO43 said:
no my friend what you dont realise is every time a soul gets won by satan God has lost one battle.. unless of course he can cure there disease by clothing them and loving them.. like he did with adam and eve.. everytime you sin You lose a battle... its not rocket science pal..
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Every time you sin, God has lost a battle, or YOU have lost a battle? Please clarify.

Please note: I have read the Book, and know Who has won :)
 
blue_ladybug

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God doesn't lose battles. :) He ALWAYS wins. If we sin, that's our own fault, not His. Also, God owns our souls. He's not in the business of selling them, loaning them, or anything like that..
 
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Magenta said:
Every time you sin, God has lost a battle, or YOU have lost a battle? Please clarify.

Please note: I have read the Book, and know Who has won :)
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IF Jesus does it all, as YOU claim,,, and we do nothing,,,
Then JESUS has lost the battle my dear Magenta.

sigh.
 
blue_ladybug

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Magenta didn't make that quote, Jimbo did, so I don't know why it shows that she made it.. :confused:


FranC said:
IF Jesus does it all, as YOU claim,,, and we do nothing,,,
Then JESUS has lost the battle my dear Magenta.

sigh.
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eternally-gratefull said:
Whateve dude, keep talking, all you do is make yourself look bad,

you never have anything thing meaningful to say, all you do is attack,

join your buddies on ignore.
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If you have placed me on ignore, I honor and respect your decision....I will place you also back on ignore and I will not reply to anything you say.....even if I did not place you back on ignore I would honor and respect you placing me on ignore and not reply...
 
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blue_ladybug said:
God doesn't lose battles. :) He ALWAYS wins. If we sin, that's our own fault, not His. Also, God owns our souls. He's not in the business of selling them, loaning them, or anything like that..
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How is it our fault sweetie if YOU claim that Jesus is doing everything for us through us?

Please explain this.

IF HE is doing EVERYTHING and we do NOTHING, then JESUS is fully responsible for EVERYTHING, INCL our sinning.

Maybe Dcon,, could explain this to you?
Since you take no instruction from a flirt like me.
 
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FranC said:
How did Jesus' Death help the unsaved?
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The death of the Son of man's flesh shows spirit life was given in jeapordy of another.The unseen eternal work.God who is Spirit cannot die.

While the spirit life of the flesh is in the blood, literal blood is not spirit .Blood like living water represents the unseen Holy Spirit ,Christ . Christ said his flesh profits for nothing. Spiritual words coming from a eternal spirit give spirit life.
 
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blue_ladybug said:
Magenta didn't make that quote, Jimbo did, so I don't know why it shows that she made it.. :confused:
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Sweetie

ALL the NOT WORKERS FOR HERE have made that statement.
Ask Dcon, he'll confirm it for you.
And UG
And Magenta
And everybody in the club.
 
stonesoffire

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Magenta again.
 
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garee said:
The death of the Son of man's flesh shows spirit life was given in jeapordy of another.The unseen eternal work.God who is Spirit cannot die.

While the spirit life of the flesh is in the blood, literal blood is not spirit .Blood like living water represents the unseen Holy Spirit ,Christ . Christ said his flesh profits for nothing. Spiritual words coming from a eternal spirit give spirit life.
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HUH?

Could you say that using different words.
I do believe I've never heard that before.
This does not mean it doesn't exist.

I just don't understand it...

P.S. The question was this:

How does Jesus' Death benefit unsaved persons?
 
dcontroversal

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FranC said:
At least I never told anybody they were going to hell with the plentious.
Gotta love that Dcon.
He even makes up his very own expressions.
God must be so proud of him.

Where is he anyway?
Somebody go get him...
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If you could only quote someone correctly.....ALL I have ever done is quote JESUS and what he has to say about the number that comes before his throne having placed their emphasis upon WORKS as their means of entry into the kingdom....GALATIANS is clear...ALL WHO BLEND FAITH AND WORKS to get, keep, or maintain salvation are FOOLISH AND BEWITCHED....both BIBLICAL IN SCOPE...why does that offend you?
 
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FranC said:
How is it our fault sweetie if YOU claim that Jesus is doing everything for us through us?

Please explain this.

IF HE is doing EVERYTHING and we do NOTHING, then JESUS is fully responsible for EVERYTHING, INCL our sinning.

Maybe Dcon,, could explain this to you?
Since you take no instruction from a flirt like me.
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Well if he is not working in you to both will and do His good pleasure .Who is? He who works inquity?
 
blue_ladybug

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Stop adding to my words. I DIDN'T say that it was anyone's fault.. I've never said that we don't have to do anything.. We do.. but NOT FOR KEEPING SALVATION....


FranC said:
How is it our fault sweetie if YOU claim that Jesus is doing everything for us through us?

Please explain this.

IF HE is doing EVERYTHING and we do NOTHING, then JESUS is fully responsible for EVERYTHING, INCL our sinning.

Maybe Dcon,, could explain this to you?
Since you take no instruction from a flirt like me.
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Magenta

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We love because He first loved us :) God draws us with love.

That sure helped me before I surrendered my will and my life to Him :)
 
AllenW

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I never put anyone on ignore.
I love all of you.
But, of course, I realize some of you are just plain stupid, but I still luv ya.:)
 
blue_ladybug

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None of our works will save us. None of our works will KEEP us saved. None of our works will gain us access to heaven.

WHY do we do good works? For the purpose of fulfilling the command to love one another, and to show God's love to others through us. :)

THAT is why we do good works..
 
dcontroversal

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loveme1 said:
By believing we are grafted in to the root becoming branches that bear fruit. Is the branch grafting itself in and bearing its own fruit or is all credit to He that grafts and the Root itself?
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I have consistently stated the following....

a. Faith and faith alone thru grace saves eternally
b. The root supports and supplies the vines
c. Jesus produces through us as a living sacrifice
d. Any work or fruit is the DIRECT RESULT of the salvation and faith one already possesses in Christ ETERNALLY
e. WORKS DO NOT SAVE, KEEP SAVED, FINISH SALVATION AND OR EMBELLISH OUR SALVATION..... (D ABOVE)
 
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