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NoNameMcgee

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I don't,I like conversing with you just like with Fran whom sadly got herself removed with hateful posts,you have an interesting outlook and fascinating ways of putting things so I hope you'll stick around!
ahhhh it wont let me rep you again so soon.... ill remember after i spread it around
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Being born again by God through the Holy Spirit gives us a pure heart.
This simple fact seems to elude so many. God didn't fix our fleshly, human heart. What is born of the flesh is flesh. We are given a NEW HEART!!
We need to embrace that. Our New hearts have been MADE PURE BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.

Amen, We have to let God build up the man or woman we were created to be, so we can do his will, But in order to do that, we have to have God give us that heart, because our old hearts (the flesh) is wicked,,
 
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Being born again by God through the Holy Spirit gives us a pure heart.
This simple fact seems to elude so many. God didn't fix our fleshly, human heart. What is born of the flesh is flesh. We are given a NEW HEART!!
We need to embrace that. Our New hearts have been MADE PURE BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST.
Indeed.

Just don't forget King Saul, though.
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The Bible says none are righteous, do you disagree with that? I did refer to that Scripture while making my point, so your accusation falls flat. None are righteous but Christ, do you disagree with that? We are made righteous through Christ, do you disagree with that? It is not our righteousness! We put on HIS righteousness, do you disagree with that? Without Him working in and through us, we can do nothing, do you disagree with that, too? It is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose, do you disagree with that as well? It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me, do you disagree with that? Just how much of the Bible do you disagree with, Meggido?
All the verses I posted to you about this yesterday is what I believe ....what you hear and then imply through lies about me is that I think it is my self-righteousness....it is not my righteousness it is Christs imputed to me on the sole basis as a gift[Rom 5.12-21]through faith[Rom 4, Phil 3 and imputed by Christ himself[2 COr 5.21...just as the verses below show...and just as I showed you last night and just as I have always stated on this thread and on others.......

I am not righteous, but I made righteous through the free gift, faith and imputed by Christ... this is known as positional righteousness that is given ONLY by Christ......


Your attempts to discredit and destroy people so benignly and innocently prove something about you and something very important for others to know about you...not all that glitters, sparkles and offer cookies is gold...

If this is still not clear or you change direction and ask me about the difference between lost and unbelieving will be proof you have nothing but mean spirited motive to discredit and destroy someone....now lay off or come to full age....





2 Cor 5.21
[SUP]21 [/SUP]He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.


Romans 5.12-21
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— [SUP]13 [/SUP]for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But the free gift is not like the transgression. For if by the transgression of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many. [SUP]16 [/SUP]The gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned; for on the one hand the judgment arose from one transgression resulting in condemnation, but on the other hand the free gift arose from many transgressions resulting in justification. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous. [SUP]20 [/SUP]The Law came in so that the transgression would increase; but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, [SUP]21 [/SUP]so that, as sin reigned in death, even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Phil 3.7-11
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. [SUP]8 [/SUP]More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, [SUP]9 [/SUP]and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, [SUP]10 [/SUP]that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; [SUP]11 [/SUP]in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.
 
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joefizz

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Indeed.

Just don't forget King Saul, though.
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who can forget "King" Saul?
The "second" king of Israel(God was the first king as declared by God in the book of Samuel)and a king that pursued to kill his own servant David who helped him many years and ironically refused to kill him even when God delivered him into David's hands"twice",even not allowing anyone to kill Saul,if anyone forgets King Saul then they would have to forget David whom also became king of Israel!
 
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p4t - this is where you are mistaken.

Those who claim there is no moral code in Christ,
No one here does this, and you never have any actual corroboration to your allegations, just fictional characters who do not exist, here referred to as "Those..."
 
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It seems you give out advice because you have no use for it yourself.
stop lying about people characters and their motives to discredit them...we will go all day Mag, until people begin to see your true motives...this is not your chat board, your playground, thread or church house ...STOP IT!....now...
 
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eternally-gratefull

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who can forget "King" Saul the "second" king of Israel(God was the first king as declared by God in the book of Samuel)and a king that pursued to kill his own servant David who helped him many years and ironically refused to kill him even when God delivered him into David's hands"twice",even not allowing anyone to kill Saul,if anyone forgets King Saul then they would have to forget David whom also became king of Israel!
Yes King david, who also committed many grave sins, yet was called a man after Gods heart.
 
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Meggido keeps demanding the thread be allowed to die and/or to have it shut down, but refuses to stop posting in it himself. That seems hypocritical to me, and others as well.
What is true hypocrisy and that unseen readers know and see is the way you use glitter to attract and then when something goes wrong you do not agree with lie to sow discard in the hopes to discredit someone.....STOP IT...now...
 
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Ah...meggido...Mathew 25, I looked it up...I don't think I want to get into it because I have some views on it that will just make some mad and some really don't believe as I do that there is a gathering together prior to the tribulation. And we're doing pretty good this morning and some just can't handle people having different views on it.

Maybe we can discuss it elsewhere some day. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Yes indeed even ironically"Murder" sending bath-sheba's husband to the front lines of war!
it is sad to say, But if we did not have the bible tell us what God thought of david, but just looked at his life and all he did, I bet many, even people in here, would claim David was either not saved, or lost his salvation. Because how can a man who was a sinful as david later in life be saved?
 
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joefizz

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What is true hypocrisy and that unseen readers know and see is the way you use glitter to attract and then when something goes wrong you do not agree with lie to sow discard in the hopes to discredit someone.....STOP IT...now...
you do realize that you are responding to "old" posts right?And magenta may not react to your posts anytime soon,considering that one of her posts said she was "going out".
 
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Who is they?

A series of posts full of condemnation, false accusations, and near profanity was made concerning an unspecified "they," yet you agreed. How do you know DCon was not included in the "they"? He was after all, one of the people who put a like on one of the mod's two posts.

For the record, and you can check for yourself if you would like to verify, people did not talk for 30-40 minutes after the mod posted about how great he was. That was a blatant lie. Looks like Stephen was getting his dig in because the mod criticized him. Talk about overdrive...
here you go again....stop it...now....you are sowing discord to discredit....
 

PennEd

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Indeed.

Just don't forget King Saul, though.
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I do not forget King Saul. Truthfully, his tale is disturbing. In some ways his story reminds me of Samson. Both had the Spirit leave them. But almost to prove that there was no seal of the Holy Spirit either way. Coming in, or going out, God heard Samson's prayer at the end and I believe the Spirit came back to him. God certainly granted his request.
Saul, is a question mark. I have heard good scholars give both sides of the debate of whether Saul is save.
But I believe WE ARE NOW SEALED. I know you don't. I find that dad.
 
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joefizz

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it is sad to say, But if we did not have the bible tell us what God thought of david, but just looked at his life and all he did, I bet many, even people in here, would claim David was either not saved, or lost his salvation. Because how can a man who was a sinful as david later in life be saved?
Indeed tis why he "needed" God and why we "need" God now we all have done dismally at some point but God sees what we can do and what we are "Sorry for" and decides to give us a "new life" even though we "Didn't Deserve It".
 
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There are a few here who reject verse 6 and go about to establish their own righteousness by a working for dogma that includes some sort of sinless perfectionism.....tragically I might add...
Please list in order who has ever stated they were perfect and not sinned...

We will be waiting...
 
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...you are sowing discord to discredit....
With all due respect the above is so hypocritical of you. The above is your daily, minute by minute practice on here sir. I hope you'll turn your anger, false teachings, hate, lies and hypocrisy over to the LORD. Seems to be your "prasso" and it is sad...
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I do not forget King Saul. Truthfully, his tale is disturbing. In some ways his story reminds me of Samson. Both had the Spirit leave them. But almost to prove that there was no seal of the Holy Spirit either way. Coming in, or going out, God heard Samson's prayer at the end and I believe the Spirit came back to him. God certainly granted his request.
Saul, is a question mark. I have heard good scholars give both sides of the debate of whether Saul is save.
But I believe WE ARE NOW SEALED. I know you don't. I find that dad.
amen, it is one of those, "we will know when we get to heaven" discussions, not worth causing division over.