Do you believe the Seventh Day Adventist church is the end-time "remnant" or true church? That is their claim. They think because they have the "testimony of Jesus" and keep the Ten Commandments (except the murder one, since they kill fetuses), that they are the remnant church. It is a claim to be the true church in essence.
HAVE WE FORGOTTEN THE REFORMATION AND WHY WE AREN'T ROMAN CATHOLICS?
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God true Church ἐκκλησία; ekklēsia; ek-klay-see'-ah = an assembly of believers that have the Word of God and are sanctified by it. God's Church is organized but it is not an organization it is the believers that are gatherer together in His name...
Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
John 10:16
Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
John 4:23-24
23, But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Who are these people......
Revelations 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelations 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelations 22:14-15
14, Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15, For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whore mongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.
If we knowingly break one of God's commandments we are guilty before God of breaking all of them...
James 2:8-12
8, If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
If we are following the traditions of man breaking God's commandments are we following god or man?
Matthew 15:3-9
3, But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4, For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5, But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6, And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7, Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9, But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Sunday worship is a tradition of man breaking God's commandments which was introduced into Christianity by the RCC. Who should we follow God or man?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all man everywhere to repent and believe the Gospel. Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
God's Sheep hear his voice...
Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
John 10:16
Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
John 4:23-24
23, But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Who are these people......
Revelations 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelations 14:12
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Revelations 22:14-15
14, Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15, For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whore mongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loves and makes a lie.
If we knowingly break one of God's commandments we are guilty before God of breaking all of them...
James 2:8-12
8, If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9, But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12, So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
If we are following the traditions of man breaking God's commandments are we following god or man?
Matthew 15:3-9
3, But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4, For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5, But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6, And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7, Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, 8, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9, But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Sunday worship is a tradition of man breaking God's commandments which was introduced into Christianity by the RCC. Who should we follow God or man?
In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all man everywhere to repent and believe the Gospel. Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
God's Sheep hear his voice...
Jackson123,
You hit the nail on the head. In this day and age read "apostate" for "Protestant" (generally speaking). No sooner than the Reformation was at its peak, unbelieving men calling themselves Christians began attacking the Bible and Bible doctrine. At the same time, the RCC -- instead of repenting from its evil ways and doctrines -- entrenched them further through the Council of Trent.
You hit the nail on the head. In this day and age read "apostate" for "Protestant" (generally speaking). No sooner than the Reformation was at its peak, unbelieving men calling themselves Christians began attacking the Bible and Bible doctrine. At the same time, the RCC -- instead of repenting from its evil ways and doctrines -- entrenched them further through the Council of Trent.
In essence, it sounds like you're denying the doctrine of sola fide. You'd be very comfortable in the Roman Catholic church.
The position of evangelicals is that salvation is by faith alone, but the faith is evidenced eventually by obedience.
By the way, faith and repentance are two sides of the same coin. I don't separate the two. Faith is turning toward Christ and a life of obedience to him, and Repentance is turning away from one's sinful self-centered orientation.
Repentance is an awareness of one's sinfulness, a loathing of it, and a resolve to turn from it, with the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit and the power of God. It is not cleaning one's self up to come to salvation, as that is impossible. The unsaved man does not have the internal resources to do this.
Works oriented theology puts the cart before the horse, and glories in self-effort. That is why justification by faith alone is necessary. Fallen mankind cannot do any meritorious works, and cannot clean himself up to come to God.
Works oriented theology is God-dishonoring and causes me to heave.
Scripture is clear in teaching that the fallen man is helpless to do anything to resurrect himself. He is like a corpse laying on a table, dead and cold. Until God resurrects him spiritually, he can do nothing.
I suggest reading Ephesians 2:1-9. It's one of the best synopses of the Gospel. Also read the whole book of Romans about 10 times or more. The picture becomes crystal clear.
Thank God for the Reformers who understood that man-centered theology is God-dishonoring. Works oriented theology sounds spiritual on the surface, but it is God-dishonoring as it glories in self-effort. The default position of sinful man is to glory in self and not God.
The position of evangelicals is that salvation is by faith alone, but the faith is evidenced eventually by obedience.
By the way, faith and repentance are two sides of the same coin. I don't separate the two. Faith is turning toward Christ and a life of obedience to him, and Repentance is turning away from one's sinful self-centered orientation.
Repentance is an awareness of one's sinfulness, a loathing of it, and a resolve to turn from it, with the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit and the power of God. It is not cleaning one's self up to come to salvation, as that is impossible. The unsaved man does not have the internal resources to do this.
Works oriented theology puts the cart before the horse, and glories in self-effort. That is why justification by faith alone is necessary. Fallen mankind cannot do any meritorious works, and cannot clean himself up to come to God.
Works oriented theology is God-dishonoring and causes me to heave.
Scripture is clear in teaching that the fallen man is helpless to do anything to resurrect himself. He is like a corpse laying on a table, dead and cold. Until God resurrects him spiritually, he can do nothing.
I suggest reading Ephesians 2:1-9. It's one of the best synopses of the Gospel. Also read the whole book of Romans about 10 times or more. The picture becomes crystal clear.
Thank God for the Reformers who understood that man-centered theology is God-dishonoring. Works oriented theology sounds spiritual on the surface, but it is God-dishonoring as it glories in self-effort. The default position of sinful man is to glory in self and not God.
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