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No I didnt change my tune, he never touched on it...
Show me where he answered my question and I will admit, however just because you say he replied does not mean he did, he ignored it and said something not pertaning to the 3 verses and there was not even a yes or no...
Im not sure what that is, but I have to say no, because only Yahshua was without sin on this earth. and What have I ever said to make you think that I think im sinless?
Show me where he answered my question and I will admit, however just because you say he replied does not mean he did, he ignored it and said something not pertaning to the 3 verses and there was not even a yes or no...
Im not sure what that is, but I have to say no, because only Yahshua was without sin on this earth. and What have I ever said to make you think that I think im sinless?
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Justification is a one-time event that is completed the moment you believe. And Christ is the rock that holds up that declaration of righteousness (justification). Although the justification Christ secured on our behalf is complete, His sacrifice and ministry that obtained that justification must continually be before God on our behalf holding up the justification it secures. But since he always lives to do that there is no danger of his ministry and sacrifice petering out like a sputtering Sopwith Camel aeroplane in a Snoopy cartoon causing us to lose our justification. That's what was wrong with the Levitical priesthood. It was not sustainable as to keep the worshiper justified, I mean in regard to the things that the law could forgive--Acts 13:39 (some things could not be forgiven through the Levitical priesthood--murder, adultery, etc.).
The only other way Christ can cease interceding before God for our completed and ongoing justification is if we stop believing in Christ. Hebrews 10:26 is clear that if you stop believing and go back in a willful return to the world no sacrifice for sin remains for you. You lose the efficacy of Christ's ministry toward justification. He becomes of no effect to you toward justification if you stop believing in Him for justification and instead turn to something else, or nothing else, to justify you (Galatians 5:2,4).
Are you aware that you are already sanctified? It also happened the moment you believed. You were set apart for a holy purpose the moment you believed. What is ongoing about it is you are going to now live an entire life acting out your 'set apartness' (your sanctification) in actual deeds until the day you die.
I wouldn't say too many have been tainted by the erroneous Catholic doctrine that says justification happens over and over and over again. I see way more people in the church tainted by the erroneous Protestant doctrine that you can not lose the completed justification that Christ secured for you and keeps secure for you through your continuing believing (Hebrews 7:25).
Christ must continue to minister through his one-time for all time sacrifice for you to stay completely justified as you are now. That's why you have to continue to believe. Believing is what lays hold of his ministry in heaven for you. But too many people in the church thinks the completed justification you have received means you can't lose it, thinking that if you could lose it that means you have to work to keep it. No, you have to continue to believe to keep the completed justification you have in Christ.
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I have not answered you at all? What does that mean, lol?
If we had to be perfect law upholders to claim that Christians must be obedient to God then we all need to just go home and shut up, lol.
Why do you people get the benefit of Christ's blood for the forgiveness of sin when you screw up but we who also believe in Christ don't get the benefit of Christ's blood when we screw up? You do realize NOBODY in this thread is claiming perfection, and that we are ALL relying on the blood of Christ when we screw up, don't you?
But it is clear to me that some Christians I've met and talked to think reliance on Christ is a license to now watch 'Game of Thrones', for example, with impunity. That's an abuse of grace, and one that Christ will eventually not forgive, because, ultimately, willful sin is nothing more than an abandonment of trust in and a trampling on Christ's blood that justifies. Grace doesn't cover the rejection of Christ's blood. But it does cover the believer who seeks to obey God, even by way of the Mosaic observances by reason of conscience, but comes up short sometimes.
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First you say one thing, then you say another, now you revert back
and contradict yourself again. Round and round we go, eh?
I was not aware that a yes or no constituted giving commentary. I will keep that in mind. I saw a view given that pertained to the law, which is what the verse you gave was about. Calling it a non-answer is what people do when they do not like the answer given, no matter how relevant the answer may have been.
Please show me where I gave any indication that I thought you were sinless. LOL. WOW is right. I know you will not be able to, because I said no such thing. I ASKED you IF you were one of those sinless perfectionists, which does not in any way equate to me thinking you are sinless. Sinless perfectionists are those who claim we must keep the law and also say they do. Of course they don't, despite their claims to the contrary. They get caught in their lies often, yet mostly refuse to acknowledge their sins even then.
and contradict yourself again. Round and round we go, eh?
I was not aware that a yes or no constituted giving commentary. I will keep that in mind. I saw a view given that pertained to the law, which is what the verse you gave was about. Calling it a non-answer is what people do when they do not like the answer given, no matter how relevant the answer may have been.
Please show me where I gave any indication that I thought you were sinless. LOL. WOW is right. I know you will not be able to, because I said no such thing. I ASKED you IF you were one of those sinless perfectionists, which does not in any way equate to me thinking you are sinless. Sinless perfectionists are those who claim we must keep the law and also say they do. Of course they don't, despite their claims to the contrary. They get caught in their lies often, yet mostly refuse to acknowledge their sins even then.
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Hear you? You can't even understand what people believe, You just proved you have no idea what we believe. So you have no business trying to tell other people what to do. So if I was you I would stop trying to hide behind a dead persons picture and name, and figure out what people believe before you start trying to tell people what to do.
