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valiant

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You are correct, for Truth is Truth, and Church Dogma is usually just coprolite.
And the JW perversion is simply a LIE.

While the Father is the Truth. Jesus is the Truth (John 14.6). The Holy Spirit is the Truth (John 14.17). One Truth revealed in threeness.
 

valiant

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How many have then Courage to...Question?
Most didn't in Jesus' Day, and remained blind....

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Is that you getting free from the JWS at last? There is hope yet.

By the way we don't like your pictures from the JW site. They are sarcastic and blasphemo:cool:us.
 

valiant

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1. The best mediator between God and man is One Who is both God and man.

2. The Father returned to Him His glory (John 17.5) and His LORDSHIP (Phil 2.5-11).

3, The Son had NO ONE over Him.
 
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1. The best mediator between God and man is One Who is both God and man.

2. The Father returned to Him His glory (John 17.5) and His LORDSHIP (Phil 2.5-11).

3, The Son had NO ONE over Him.

Well, I guess the graphic is WRONG: Not "ALL" know such basic, biblical facts.....
 

Laish

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And the JW perversion is simply a LIE.

While the Father is the Truth. Jesus is the Truth (John 14.6). The Holy Spirit is the Truth (John 14.17). One Truth revealed in threeness.
Are ya sure this guy is Jehovah’s wittiness? He sounds close but he is off on their standard attack on the Holy Trinity .
like his approach to John 1: 1 JWs usaly bring up that not saying Jesus was a god is a translation error not some symbolic phrase . He kinda reminds me of Armstrongism or world wide church of god type . I could be wrong it’s kind of hard keeping track of those guys .
Blessings
Bill
 
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Are ya sure this guy is Jehovah’s wittiness? He sounds close but he is off on their standard attack on the Holy Trinity .
like his approach to John 1: 1 JWs usaly bring up that not saying Jesus was a god is a translation error not some symbolic phrase . He kinda reminds me of Armstrongism or world wide church of god type . I could be wrong it’s kind of hard keeping track of those guys .
Blessings
Bill
Yes, Laish, I AM (Not claiming to be God) a JW.
I am just honest as to our mistakes and error- and the WTBS nonsense.
Ironic, since the WTBS is the only group I know of that promulgates the Truth.....
 

Laish

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Yes, Laish, I AM (Not claiming to be God) a JW.
I am just honest as to our mistakes and error- and the WTBS nonsense.
Ironic, since the WTBS is the only group I know of that promulgates the Truth.....
Ok groovy I just was not sure . Your approach is just off from the standard JW I have become used to.
That and most Jehovah Witness usaly are not permitted to do what your doing with a overseers approval.
Thanks for the reply .
Blessings
Bill
 
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Ok groovy I just was not sure . Your approach is just off from the standard JW I have become used to.
That and most Jehovah Witness usaly are not permitted to do what your doing with a overseers approval.
Thanks for the reply .
Blessings
Bill

"Not permitted" is not accurate.
"Not Approved" would be.
I've lost all desire to be a 'servant' in the congregation.
I LOVE the Truth, but have little respect for the WTBS....
 
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Well, if that is the case then I encourage you to dig deep and investigate the roots of how the Jehovah Witness became a sect.



Yes, Laish, I AM (Not claiming to be God) a JW.
I am just honest as to our mistakes and error- and the WTBS nonsense.
Ironic, since the WTBS is the only group I know of that promulgates the Truth.....
 

Laish

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"Not permitted" is not accurate.
"Not Approved" would be.
I've lost all desire to be a 'servant' in the congregation.
I LOVE the Truth, but have little respect for the WTBS....
Ok I guess I may have been misinformed . Publishers I know from the WTBTS had led me to believe that Evangelium over the net on boards like this could lead to disciplinary action or disfellowship . I appreciate the correct information.
Blessings
Bill
 
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Well, if that is the case then I encourage you to dig deep and investigate the roots of how the Jehovah Witness became a sect.

Like how the Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, etc did?
Why?

All that matters is God's Word - not men.
 
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Ok I guess I may have been misinformed . Publishers I know from the WTBTS had led me to believe that Evangelium over the net on boards like this could lead to disciplinary action or disfellowship . I appreciate the correct information.
Blessings
Bill

Thanks for your kind spirit!
They know I hate the ASSemblies, what the WTBS has done to the meetings and the NWT, and that I think that the 8/9 brothers at the WTBS are a 'Slave Class' spoken of by Jesus is ridiculous.

Yet I am STILL in 'good standing'-and they asked me if I wanted to be a "servant" several times.
That's why I have no left- AND that no church I know of teaches the truth about God & Christ!
 

Laish

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Thanks for your kind spirit!
They know I hate the ASSemblies, what the WTBS has done to the meetings and the NWT, and that I think that the 8/9 brothers at the WTBS are a 'Slave Class' spoken of by Jesus is ridiculous.

Yet I am STILL in 'good standing'-and they asked me if I wanted to be a "servant" several times.
That's why I have no left- AND that no church I know of teaches the truth about God & Christ!
Your welcome . Question.
I tend to be as respectful as possible ,even if we don’t agree . When talking to others concerning subjects as seriousl as Biblical doctrine I desire clarity before agreement. Anger and sharp words tend to muddy the waters . I have also discovered that anger on either side of a discussion can cause one to set up unnecessary emotional walls . Just to be clear I think your in error. Its just
I believe folks can talk without throwing arrows.
Blessings
Bill
 
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Thanks for your kind spirit!
They know I hate the ASSemblies, what the WTBS has done to the meetings and the NWT, and that I think that the 8/9 brothers at the WTBS are a 'Slave Class' spoken of by Jesus is ridiculous.

Yet I am STILL in 'good standing'-and they asked me if I wanted to be a "servant" several times.
That's why I have no left- AND that no church I know of teaches the truth about God & Christ!
In your version, who would you say God is and who Christ is?
 

crossnote

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"I Am" is the typical mistranslation of the Hebrew Name God used only once, and of which Jesus never used.
"Godman" is a fiction of CHURCHianity- unless you have 2 or 3: God SENT His son, He (or One of 'Them') didn't come Himself...AND Jesus was not "Eternal"- for he DIED- AGAIN contrary to CHURCHianity- but certainly not the Bible!
Actually Jesus, being the Word of God, was the only One who used it. There is only ONE God.
 

Zmouth

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CJB Isaiah 9:5 For a child is born to us, a son is given to us; dominion will rest on his shoulders, and he will be given the name Pele-Yo'etz El Gibbor Avi-'Ad Sar-Shalom [Wonder of a Counselor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace],


DBY Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name is called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty *God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace.


ESV Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.


KJV Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


NAS Isaiah 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
Since the principle of eternal is not defined by the doctrine of men but by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for the truth to be a lie.

The eternal is a living being or life form;
A) whom has no beginning (birth); and
B) whom has no end (death); and
C) whom there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning (change).

 

valiant

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You must distinguish God the Father from the triune God in this statement. The God Who is all in all is the triune God.

It is saying that the Father and the Son had different parts to play in the outworking of His purposes, the Father sending the Son to be the savior of the world. And that in the end all will submit to the triune God, when God will be all in all,