Which of Jesus' teachings were applicable only to the Jews?

[Marcelo]

We all know that Jesus preached to the Jews while Paul preached to the Gentiles. I feel that Jesus brought the Law to its full expression just to show the Jews that no one can be saved by keeping it.

Here are some evidences that some of Jesus’ teachings were for the Jews only:

Matthew 5:20
For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:23
"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, …


Luke 12:33
“Sell your possessions and give to the poor”.

Matthew 19:16
Jesus said to the young rich man: “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments”. Then: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor”. Jesus added: “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

I know that Christians in the first century did sell possessions and shared the money with those in need, but they didn’t do that in an attempt to keep any law – they were just being guided by the Holy Spirit. We Christians are not required to sell our possessions and give alms, but Jesus taught that as a commandment to the Jews.

Most of us, in Christian Chat, are relatively rich. So, if all of Jesus’ teachings are for Christians, practically no one in here will be saved.

Many of the principles that Jesus taught are everlasting, but I feel that some are not.

Again, my question is: Which of Jesus’ teachings were applicable only to the Jews?

 

[Johnny_B]

The teachings that go beyond the Law, which He teaches to bring the spiritual side of the Law that the Jews forgot. The OT taught to love the Lord God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength and to love your neighbor as yourself.

We also need to remember John 1:11-13 “He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.”

He came to the Jews to teach them and they rejected Him, except for those elect to eternal life, they believed in Him. Which fulfills Matthew 1:21 “She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.”

He came to His own and His own people did not receive Him, yet He will and did save His people in that time and His message saves His people that hear His message from then until the end of time.

To answer your question all of His teachings are for the Jews and His people or God's elect received it because He gave them the right to become children of God, not by thier will, but of God.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

We all know that Jesus preached to the Jews while Paul preached to the Gentiles. I feel that Jesus brought the Law to its full expression just to show the Jews that no one can be saved by keeping it.

Here are some evidences that some of Jesus’ teachings were for the Jews only:

really?

Jesus never said anything a non Jew should pay attention to?

I don't think you could get more Jewish than Paul was, so maybe we should just ignore him too

some of what Jesus said was directed at the religious leaders of the day, but His teaching was not

I really question what someone gets out of the Bible if they relegate Jesus to the OT and define Paul as the one sent by God

 

[Marcelo]

really?

Jesus never said anything a non Jew should pay attention to?

I don't think you could get more Jewish than Paul was, so maybe we should just ignore him too

some of what Jesus said was directed at the religious leaders of the day, but His teaching was not

I really question what someone gets out of the Bible if they relegate Jesus to the OT and define Paul as the one sent by God

I said: Here are some evidences that some of Jesus' teachings were only for the Jews:

 

[BenFTW]

really?

Jesus never said anything a non Jew should pay attention to?

I don't think you could get more Jewish than Paul was, so maybe we should just ignore him too

some of what Jesus said was directed at the religious leaders of the day, but His teaching was not

I really question what someone gets out of the Bible if they relegate Jesus to the OT and define Paul as the one sent by God

This isn't an anti-Jew position, this is a rightly dividing the word of God position. Did Jesus say a command that pertains to the full extent of the Law, a Law of which we are no longer under? Of course He did, He said many things of the Law of Moses and He emphasized the perfection necessary to be righteous before God on the basis of the Law. We no longer serve in the oldness of the letter but the newness of the spirit.

 

[garee]

None of it applied to an outward Jew . They are in the same place as a gentile (no difference) . Not all Israel is born again Israel according to the new name he named His people.. Christian

 

[IamWhoIam]

Would sending out the twelve be of teachings/instructions about the who's?

 

[FlSnookman7]

really?

Jesus never said anything a non Jew should pay attention to?

I don't think you could get more Jewish than Paul was, so maybe we should just ignore him too

some of what Jesus said was directed at the religious leaders of the day, but His teaching was not

I really question what someone gets out of the Bible if they relegate Jesus to the OT and define Paul as the one sent by God

Yet Jesus Himself said He was here only for the lost tribe of Israel and then He choose Paul to give the rest of us His message...


Matthew 15:21-24 21 Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Pay special attention to verse 24.


Here is God saying it will indeed be Paul that brings His gospel.

Acts 9:11:15 11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.
15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Here is verse 15 again from the amplified...
15 But the Lord said to him, Go, for this man is a chosen instrument of Mine to bear My name before the Gentiles and kings and the descendants of Israel

So again, it is GOD who says Paul brings us His gospel.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I said: Here are some evidences that some of Jesus' teachings were only for the Jews:

uh huh

but you also said these things:

We all know that Jesus preached to the Jews while Paul preached to the Gentiles

Here are some evidences that some of Jesus’ teachings were for the Jews only:

and I said yes, some of what He said was for the religious leaders (prob often enough applicable to the same today)

so...where is the problem exactly?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

This isn't an anti-Jew position, this is a rightly dividing the word of God position. Did Jesus say a command that pertains to the full extent of the Law, a Law of which we are no longer under? Of course He did, He said many things of the Law of Moses and He emphasized the perfection necessary to be righteous before God on the basis of the Law. We no longer serve in the oldness of the letter but the newness of the spirit.

nobody said that it was

why would you see any reason to say that to me ?!?

listen, I know what you believe regarding this op, so let's not try to make it seem I am saying anything other than what I am saying

you can believe whatever you like, but kindly do not misrepresent what I said

your opinion on so called rightly dividing the word is not rightly dividing the word

see how that works?

you seem to think that if you say something, that settles everything

I see that in many of your posts and honestly, it represents what your personal opinion is to many people and nothing more

 

[7seasrekeyed]

what foundation are some of you building on if not Jesus Christ?

you seem to be building on Paul and yet he said the foundation is Jesus

that, is actually rightly UNDERSTANDING the word

if Jesus and what He taught is not your foundation, then you do not really believe the gospel He taught either

I did state some of what Jesus said does not apply...unless of course you are a modern day Pharisee or hypocrite, then, by all means you should take it to heart and repent

repent as in agree with Jesus who IS the word and do so before you go any further

 

[loveme1]

So is there a separate Covenant for the Jew and Gentile? Certainly not.

There is one True Vine Christ which a dead branch (we)of either circumcision or uncircumcision is grafted in to by GOD through belief.. made alive in Christ.

Paul shared the Gospel to the Gentile .. that Gospel is the Lord's Testimony which is the New Covenant.

The i am of Paul error was addressed by Paul Himself.. nothing new under the sun.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Again, my question is: Which of Jesus’ teachings were applicable only to the Jews?

Short answer: NONE

All the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth (God manifest in the flesh) were for all of humanity, even though He was only addressing the Jews, and communicated very briefly with Samaritans and Gentiles.

There are some Hyper-Dispensationalists who would seek to create a dichotomy between what was for Jews and what was for Gentiles. But since Jesus is God, and was also a Light to the Gentiles, every word He spoke applies to all humanity and is applicable right now to you and me.

Take Christ's discourse with Nicodemus about the New Birth. Christ's imperative "YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN" is essential for all human beings right now. That is the beauty of the words of Christ, which were also the words of the Father. They are of eternal value and application.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Paul himself taught the following:

11 For other foundation can no man lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. I Cor. 3:11

Peter confirms it by quoting an OT scripture:

6 Because it is contained in scripture,
Behold, I lay in Zion a chief corner stone, elect, precious:
And he that believeth on him shall not be put to shame. I Peter 2:6

Peter is quoting Isaiah 28:16

so which of Jesus teaching are now obsolete?

the only real and true foundation of the Christian is the Lord Jesus Christ Himself and no one else

this is a relationship...not a set of rules or codes or do this or that...nothing of the sort. salvation is by faith only but we are supposed to walk in the light as He is in the light and that does NOT mean Paul

Christianity is not about a creed, church or cut and paste Bible verses. it's really all or nothing. that is what Jesus asks and maybe that is why some prefer to cut certain of His teachings out of the picture

 

[Issachar92]

Everything Jesus said applies to everyone.

And Ben please, you are repeating this same error of not realizing how a testament works. Why do I gotta explain this again? Are we in an alternative universe? Here goes:

Im living now, I give my testament, I die, now my testament is in force.
Jesus lived, gave His testimony, Jesus died and resurrected, now His testimony is in force.

Meaning all that Jesus said applies, regardless of what the pundits are telling ya.

But this is how you see the testament working: Jesus came to teach unlivable laws and spent time teaching the people and the disciples, died and resurrected and made what He said while living of none-effect and flipped the script and revealed something different to Paul. Therefore everything He had said to the disciples and to the people He taught during His earthly ministry was just a waste of time, because not long after that He supposedly decided to change everything.

Your view makes no sense on a spiritual or even secular level. Its pure madness and confusion.

 

[loveme1]

Luke 24

44And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. 45Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48And ye are witnesses of these things. 49And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.


Revelation 1

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.



Paul is beloved and inspired elaborating upon the Testimony of our Lord.. yet Peter warns that not all will understand.. all the New Testament is inspired but upon the Word of Christ we build our house.. and all writings affirm to His.

 

[Nehemiah6]

This isn't an anti-Jew position, this is a rightly dividing the word of God position. Did Jesus say a command that pertains to the full extent of the Law, a Law of which we are no longer under? Of course He did, He said many things of the Law of Moses and He emphasized the perfection necessary to be righteous before God on the basis of the Law. We no longer serve in the oldness of the letter but the newness of the spirit.

Ben,
You have a very serious misunderstanding about the Law of Moses. Within that Law we have the Ten Commandments. Those commandments have NEVER been abrogated. That is why, even after the ascension of Christ, the apostles said "sin is the transgression (violation) of THE LAW".

That can only mean the Ten Commandments (which of course were distilled into the two greatest commandments, and then finally into the one commandment -- agape love to God and neighbor). Not only that, when a sinner is regenerated God the Holy Spirit writes that Law in the hearts and minds of God's people. That is an essential component of the New Birth as well as the New Covenant.

When Paul said we are no longer under the Law, he was referring to all the other laws given to Israel. But God's spiritual and moral laws are unchangeable. That is why you will find in the Sermon of the Mount the elevation and spiritual meaning of the Ten Commandments, being shown as the Law of Love. Hence "love your enemies, do good to them that hate you..."

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 28:20, “Teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always, to the end of the age."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]

 

[BenFTW]

nobody said that it was

why would you see any reason to say that to me ?!?

listen, I know what you believe regarding this op, so let's not try to make it seem I am saying anything other than what I am saying

you can believe whatever you like, but kindly do not misrepresent what I said

your opinion on so called rightly dividing the word is not rightly dividing the word

see how that works?

you seem to think that if you say something, that settles everything

I see that in many of your posts and honestly, it represents what your personal opinion is to many people and nothing more

You said, and I quote...

-snip-

I don't think you could get more Jewish than Paul was, so maybe we should just ignore him too

-snip-

That seems to me that you're insinuating that the OP was anti-Jewish or antisemitic.

 

[Angela53510]

I think Jesus preached to all!

" And large crowds followed him from Galilee, the Decapolis, Jerusalem, Judea, and beyond the Jordan River." Matt 4:25
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What is the Decapolis? It was a place where Romans and Greeks lived! And, they were NOT Jews!

"(From the Greek words, deka, ten, and polis, a city,) a country in Palestine, which contained ten principal cities, on both of the Jordan, chiefly east, Matthew 4:25; Mark 5:20; 7:31. According to Pliny, they were, Scythopolis, Philadelphia, Raphanae, Gadara, Hippos, Dios, Pella, Gerasa, Canatha, and Damascus. Josephus inserts Otopos instead of Canatha. Though within the limits of Israel, the Decapolis was inhabited by many foreigners, and hence it retained a foreign appellation. This may also account for the numerous herds of swine kept in the district, Matthew 8:30; a practice which was forbidden by the Mosaic Law."

"The name given to the region occupied by a league of "ten cities" (Matthew 4:25Mark 5:20; Mark 7:31), which Eusebius defines (in Onomastica) as "lying in the Peraea, round Hippos, Pella and Gadara." Such combinations of Greek cities arose as Rome assumed dominion in the East, to promote their common interests in trade and commerce, and for mutual protection against the peoples surrounding them.

This particular league seems to have been constituted about the time of Pompey's campaign in Syria, 65 B.C., by which several cities in Decapolis dated their eras. They were independent of the local tetrarchy, and answerable directly to the governor of Syria. They enjoyed the rights of association and asylum; they struck their own coinage, paid imperial taxes and were liable to military service"

http://biblehub.com/topical/d/decapolis.htm
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Of course, he also preached to the Jews!


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"Jesus was going through all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every kind of disease and every kind of sickness." Matt 9:35

"But He said to them, "I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, for I was sent for this purpose." Luke 4:43


As for Paul, he preached to the Gentiles, and PETER preached to the Jews!

"But from those who were influential (whatever they were makes no difference to me; God shows no favoritism between people)—those influential leaders added nothing to my message. 7 On the contrary, when they saw that I was entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised just as Peter was entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised 8 (for he who empowered Peter for his apostleship to the circumcised also empowered me for my apostleship to the Gentiles) 9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who had a reputation as pillars, recognized the grace that had been given to me, they gave to Barnabas and me the right hand of fellowship, agreeing that we would go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised." Gal. 2:6-9

Read your Bibles, people!