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NO OSAS born again Believer that I know has EVER REJECTED HIS COMMANDS. YOU ARE PEDDLING MORE LIES. THE ONLY PURE MOTIVE FOR KEEPING HIS COMMANDS IS BECAUSE WE LOVE HIM. WE SHOW OUR LOVE FOR HIM BY STRIVING TO KEEP HIS COMMANDS.
John 14:15 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If you love Me, you will keep My commands.
YOU BELIEVED A PACK LIES ABOUT US, NOW YOU ARE SPREADING THOSE LIES, AND THAT IS SIN WHERE I COME FROM.
HAVE TO KEEP - IS A LIE.
WILL KEEP as an act of LOVE for HIM, is absolute TRUTH.
John 14:15 (HCSB)
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If you love Me, you will keep My commands.
YOU BELIEVED A PACK LIES ABOUT US, NOW YOU ARE SPREADING THOSE LIES, AND THAT IS SIN WHERE I COME FROM.
HAVE TO KEEP - IS A LIE.
WILL KEEP as an act of LOVE for HIM, is absolute TRUTH.
And now you make scriptures a deception that when people prove you wrong through scriptures, they are deceiving and your words are the truth.
Aren't you the one deceiving people here and causes division with an argument based on your own interpretation without considering the absolute truth in the bible which clearly states that it is " NOT BY WORKS" and not "WITHOUT(VOID OF)WORKS" as you usually claim by saying that FAITH ALONE SAVES(void of works).
With your deception, you resort to rejecting the plain truth in the ff: verses,
James 2:24 You see that a person is justified by what he does and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
.and the many other verses on post#1614 which you blatantly rejected by way of saying that they don't have any bearing on this thread. Not to mention the truths in the scripture posted by the SDA's w/c you as well rejected to the point of saying that (rephrased) even if they post the whole bible it will not change your view or belief. (Excuse me if I can't recall the exact words).
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
Aren't you the one deceiving people here and causes division with an argument based on your own interpretation without considering the absolute truth in the bible which clearly states that it is " NOT BY WORKS" and not "WITHOUT(VOID OF)WORKS" as you usually claim by saying that FAITH ALONE SAVES(void of works).
With your deception, you resort to rejecting the plain truth in the ff: verses,
James 2:24 You see that a person is justified by what he does and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.
.and the many other verses on post#1614 which you blatantly rejected by way of saying that they don't have any bearing on this thread. Not to mention the truths in the scripture posted by the SDA's w/c you as well rejected to the point of saying that (rephrased) even if they post the whole bible it will not change your view or belief. (Excuse me if I can't recall the exact words).
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
If you call that deception and twisting, how would you call this post and all your other posts.
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were STILL SINNERS, Christ died for us.
ARE YOU STILL A SINNER?
If your answer is no then I apologize.
If yes then...
Hebrews 9:27-28 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were STILL SINNERS, Christ died for us.
ARE YOU STILL A SINNER?
If your answer is no then I apologize.
If yes then...
Hebrews 9:27-28 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
As I have said over and over. I am speaking about the Mainstream God of Abraham Preaching Congregation/Assemble/Church that killed the prophets, killed Jesus and killed Stephen.
I posted the definition of these words, I have shown where there were in fact priests, synagogues, Congregations and assemblies, that existed BEFORE Jesus rejected them and created His congregation and assemblies translated in the Greek as "church". He founded a Congregation, a church, one that doesn't "Transgress the Commandments of God by their own doctrines and traditions."
Psalms 74:4 Thine enemies roar in the midst of thy congregations;(Church/Assembly) they set up their ensigns for signs.
Joel 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation(Church), assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
How much bitterness and hatred must you have in your heart to reject such a fundamental Biblical truth.
I posted the definition of these words, I have shown where there were in fact priests, synagogues, Congregations and assemblies, that existed BEFORE Jesus rejected them and created His congregation and assemblies translated in the Greek as "church". He founded a Congregation, a church, one that doesn't "Transgress the Commandments of God by their own doctrines and traditions."
Psalms 74:4 Thine enemies roar in the midst of thy congregations;(Church/Assembly) they set up their ensigns for signs.
Joel 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation(Church), assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
How much bitterness and hatred must you have in your heart to reject such a fundamental Biblical truth.
That is true, The Mainstream Preachers of that time, called Pharisees, were teaching for Doctrines the Commandments of men, not of God".
They were "Transgressing the Commandments of God by their own doctrines and Traditions."
Paul had to be re-educated as you correctly said. He had been deceived by the Mainstream God of Abraham preaching people of his time as were many. So Jesus knocked him off his high horse, and sent him to a Disciple to learn the truth about the Law and Prophets, not the distorted deceit taught by the Mainstream Preachers of his time.
Acts 9:19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.
But it wasn't long before the Mainstream Preacher turned on him in a big way.
Acts 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
The same things the Bible has always taught.
21 For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
The same thing Jesus and Peter taught.
Acts 28:21 And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.
22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.
23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
Acts 24:13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.
14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
I am sorry we have such a stark disagreement of the scriptures. But I can't just ignore volumes of Verses just to justify Mainstream preaching.
They were "Transgressing the Commandments of God by their own doctrines and Traditions."
Paul had to be re-educated as you correctly said. He had been deceived by the Mainstream God of Abraham preaching people of his time as were many. So Jesus knocked him off his high horse, and sent him to a Disciple to learn the truth about the Law and Prophets, not the distorted deceit taught by the Mainstream Preachers of his time.
Acts 9:19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.
But it wasn't long before the Mainstream Preacher turned on him in a big way.
Acts 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
The same things the Bible has always taught.
21 For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.
22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
The same thing Jesus and Peter taught.
Acts 28:21 And they said unto him, We neither received letters out of Judaea concerning thee, neither any of the brethren that came shewed or spake any harm of thee.
22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.
23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
Acts 24:13 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me.
14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
I am sorry we have such a stark disagreement of the scriptures. But I can't just ignore volumes of Verses just to justify Mainstream preaching.
No you are the one deceiving and causing division.
Acts 15:11 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] On the contrary, we believe we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus in the same way they are.”
Ephesians 2:5 (NRSV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—
Ephesians 2:8-9 (NRSV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God—
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not the result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 3:23-25 (CSBBible)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] They are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] God presented him as an atoning sacrifice in his blood, received through faith, to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his restraint God passed over the sins previously committed.
Galatians 5:4 (CSBBible)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace.
Titus 3:7 (CSBBible)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that, having been justified by his grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
GRACE = Receiving from GOD as a free gift, what you can NEVER EARN.
MERCY = NOT Receiving from GOD what YOU DO DESERVE, for your sin debt that you can NEVER REPAY.
Titus 3:5-7 (CSBBible)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] he saved us — not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to his mercy — through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] He poured out his Spirit on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that, having been justified by his grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
Daniel 9:18 (NKJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] O my God, incline Your ear and hear; open Your eyes and see our desolations, and the city which is called by Your name; for we do not present our supplications before You because of our righteous deeds, but because of Your great mercies.
Romans 5:8-10 (NRSV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But God proves his love for us in that while we still were sinners Christ died for us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Much more surely then, now that we have been justified by his blood, will we be saved through him from the wrath of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For if while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more surely, having been reconciled, will we be saved by his life.
You see it is Your theology that is Deceiving and causing division
Acts 15:11 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] On the contrary, we believe we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus in the same way they are.”
Ephesians 2:5 (NRSV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved—
Ephesians 2:8-9 (NRSV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God—
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not the result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 3:23-25 (CSBBible)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] They are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] God presented him as an atoning sacrifice in his blood, received through faith, to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his restraint God passed over the sins previously committed.
Galatians 5:4 (CSBBible)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] You who are trying to be justified by the law are alienated from Christ; you have fallen from grace.
Titus 3:7 (CSBBible)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that, having been justified by his grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
GRACE = Receiving from GOD as a free gift, what you can NEVER EARN.
MERCY = NOT Receiving from GOD what YOU DO DESERVE, for your sin debt that you can NEVER REPAY.
Titus 3:5-7 (CSBBible)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] he saved us — not by works of righteousness that we had done, but according to his mercy — through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP] He poured out his Spirit on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that, having been justified by his grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
Daniel 9:18 (NKJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] O my God, incline Your ear and hear; open Your eyes and see our desolations, and the city which is called by Your name; for we do not present our supplications before You because of our righteous deeds, but because of Your great mercies.
Romans 5:8-10 (NRSV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But God proves his love for us in that while we still were sinners Christ died for us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Much more surely then, now that we have been justified by his blood, will we be saved through him from the wrath of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For if while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more surely, having been reconciled, will we be saved by his life.
You see it is Your theology that is Deceiving and causing division
