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lets not forget he did end up dying for Him
Foxes Book of Martyrs;
"Peter was condemned to death, and crucified, as some do write, at Rome; albeit some others, and not without cause, do doubt thereof. Hegesippus saith that Nero sought matter against Peter to put him to death; which, when the people perceived, they entreated Peter with much ado that he would fly the city. Peter, through their importunity at length persuaded, prepared himself to avoid. But, coming to the gate, he saw the Lord Christ come to meet him, to whom he, worshipping, said, "Lord, whither dost Thou go?" To whom He answered and said, "I am come again to be crucified." By this, Peter, perceiving his suffering to be understood, returned into the city. Jerome saith that he was crucified, his head being down and his feet upward, himself so requiring, because he was (he said) unworthy to be crucified after the same form and manner as the Lord was. "
This should be a reminder in this context that we nevr know someones future in Yah... Only He knows.
Foxes Book of Martyrs;
"Peter was condemned to death, and crucified, as some do write, at Rome; albeit some others, and not without cause, do doubt thereof. Hegesippus saith that Nero sought matter against Peter to put him to death; which, when the people perceived, they entreated Peter with much ado that he would fly the city. Peter, through their importunity at length persuaded, prepared himself to avoid. But, coming to the gate, he saw the Lord Christ come to meet him, to whom he, worshipping, said, "Lord, whither dost Thou go?" To whom He answered and said, "I am come again to be crucified." By this, Peter, perceiving his suffering to be understood, returned into the city. Jerome saith that he was crucified, his head being down and his feet upward, himself so requiring, because he was (he said) unworthy to be crucified after the same form and manner as the Lord was. "
This should be a reminder in this context that we nevr know someones future in Yah... Only He knows.
Telling one they are wrong is one thing, but dont sit as judge...how can you say "you have no hope" to that person, you know not their future only Yah doees.
Romans 8:33, "Who shall bring any charge against Yah's chosen ones? It is Yah who justifies!"
Romans 8:33, "Who shall bring any charge against Yah's chosen ones? It is Yah who justifies!"
2 Corinthians 5:10, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, that each one may receive his reward according to what he has done in the body, whether righteous or evil.”
1 Corinthians 4:4-5, “For I know nothing by myself; yet by this I am not justified, for He Who judges me is יהוה! Therefore, judge nothing before the time. Wait until Yahshua comes, Who will bring to light the things hidden in darkness, and will reveal the secret intentions of men's hearts; and then each man will receive praise from יהוה.”
Did not say he didn't.......but the very night he spoke out so boldly he flat denied the Lord....NO ONE can honestly say what they would do or not do if put to the knife for what we believe....we can all hope we would stand firm and die with dignity and faith, yet at the end of the day only by God's grace and strength could we so willingly lay down our life in that particular moment!
You are the accuser, so prove the "lie".
Better yet...let's forget the whole thing and start over.
Hi, Dc.
How are you doing?
Good thread, so far, with many on both sides, (yes or no on life without sin), offering scripture and conclusions.
The primary thing I keep in mind is that salvation won't be assured till after the final judgement, so I/we must all remain true to God till the end.
Better yet...let's forget the whole thing and start over.
Hi, Dc.
How are you doing?
Good thread, so far, with many on both sides, (yes or no on life without sin), offering scripture and conclusions.
The primary thing I keep in mind is that salvation won't be assured till after the final judgement, so I/we must all remain true to God till the end.