Your logic proves you really do not know what you are talking about...nor have you read anything said by most in this thread and or you have willfully rejected what has been said or are just blind to the facts..........ONLY those who are not really saved would say the things you say and or espouse......open your eyes man.....salvation stands alone by faith based upon grace as a GIFT that cannot be earned, maintained or kept by any work of man....AND, had you taken the time to read or listen nd not go to seed and off on a tangent without the facts you can clearly see that ALL who have stated the belief found in BOLD have also said that we are saved UNTO works and any fruit or works are the RESULT OF THE SLVATION AND FAITH ONE ALREADY POSSESSES IN CHRIST as a LIVING SACRIFICE and it is JESUS who does the works through us.....
TAKE time to actually understand what we believe and state before you speak without the facts......
TAKE time to actually understand what we believe and state before you speak without the facts......
Matthew 19:16-26 The Rich Young Man Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” “Which ones?” the man inquired. Jesus replied, “‘Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’” “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?” Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
DO YOU STILL REJECT THIS PASSAGE AND EVERY OTHER SCRIPTURE THAT WOULD COMPROMISE YOUR PERSONAL AGENDAS OR PROFIT? SINCE YOU CLAIM THAT WORKS ARE THE DIRECT RESULT OF THE SALVATION YOU ALREADY POSSESS, CAN YOU NOW OBEY THE LAW WITHOUT BEING UNDER IT BUT BECAUSE OF LOVE AND OBEDIENCE TO GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND BEING SAVED ETERNALLY AS YOU CLAIM, CAN YOU NOW CLARIFY BY ANSWERING WITH A YES OR NO IF YOU ARE STILL A SINNER?