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"Sparky" huh? I will take that as a compliment since I am an electrician 
although, we always called you guys "spark chasers".... I was one of the hammer heads... did commercial carpenter work. And commercial drywall. It was meant to be more like a "lighten up, Francis" comment.
I guess each translation you use dictates the level of hell you will burn in and lenght of time....like
Amplified version = 1st level, 1000 degress, 500 years
NAS = 2nd level, 1500 degrees, 750 years
ESV = 3rd level, 2000 degrees, 1000 years
Holman Version = 4th Level, 2500 degrees, 1500 years
ESV = 5th Level, 2750 degrees, 1750 years
NKJ = 6TH LEVEL 3000 DEGREES, 2000 YEARS
NIV = 7th Level, 3250 degrees, 2750 years
Darby Translation = 8th level, 3500 degrees, 3000 years
The Living Bible = Lowest pits of hell, 1,000,000 degrees, eternity
All other translations subject to oversight and assigned punishment in hell by the 54 translators of the King Jimmy who copied, mistranslated, transilterated and added way to many thee's and thou's while trying to impress and suck up to a pedophile worldly king!!!
Amplified version = 1st level, 1000 degress, 500 years
NAS = 2nd level, 1500 degrees, 750 years
ESV = 3rd level, 2000 degrees, 1000 years
Holman Version = 4th Level, 2500 degrees, 1500 years
ESV = 5th Level, 2750 degrees, 1750 years
NKJ = 6TH LEVEL 3000 DEGREES, 2000 YEARS
NIV = 7th Level, 3250 degrees, 2750 years
Darby Translation = 8th level, 3500 degrees, 3000 years
The Living Bible = Lowest pits of hell, 1,000,000 degrees, eternity
All other translations subject to oversight and assigned punishment in hell by the 54 translators of the King Jimmy who copied, mistranslated, transilterated and added way to many thee's and thou's while trying to impress and suck up to a pedophile worldly king!!!
So John, you do not believe in this verse in your KJV?
" Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Tim. 2:15 KJV
I always thought I was obeying God by studying more, to learn to divide the Word of Truth! I guess you sure told me! I am not a worker approved, but rather, a vain and self centred person, for even daring to mention that I have studied and studied and studied.
I do apologize for thinking that 2 Tim. 2:15 was something God told me to do! How silly of me to obey the Bible.
The trouble is, I really am not feeling it! I will continue to study, to learn more about the Bible and how to read it. And certainly how to obey it. Like doing chaplain work, and preaching, and helping the poor in our church and community.
Because, that is a calling and a gift God has given me in my life. Of course, if you don't have that call, then carry on. But don't put me down, because I mention that this is my calling, and I have done/am doing it!
Sorry for being frustrated with this push that ignorance is bliss. Because, it certainly is not where the Bible is concerned.
" Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Tim. 2:15 KJV
I always thought I was obeying God by studying more, to learn to divide the Word of Truth! I guess you sure told me! I am not a worker approved, but rather, a vain and self centred person, for even daring to mention that I have studied and studied and studied.
I do apologize for thinking that 2 Tim. 2:15 was something God told me to do! How silly of me to obey the Bible.
The trouble is, I really am not feeling it! I will continue to study, to learn more about the Bible and how to read it. And certainly how to obey it. Like doing chaplain work, and preaching, and helping the poor in our church and community.
Because, that is a calling and a gift God has given me in my life. Of course, if you don't have that call, then carry on. But don't put me down, because I mention that this is my calling, and I have done/am doing it!
Sorry for being frustrated with this push that ignorance is bliss. Because, it certainly is not where the Bible is concerned.
i am very sorry you feel degraded.
i'm not aware Scripture speaks poorly of education? i can cite a wealth of verses that laud knowledge, though i imagine you're referring to 1 Cor 8? which, i believe, we should take in context. and, of course, knowledge without love is not good.
but what drives Angela is love. i understand it may not seem like it, because you don't know her. i do, and i believe with all my heart it distresses her to see people trapped in bondage. if you glance at her post history, you will see it.
you know... the knowledge she has gained from study actually does make her more qualified to speak to the subject.
not that i'm her apologist, but i have the privilege of calling her my friend, and i love her.
i'm not aware Scripture speaks poorly of education? i can cite a wealth of verses that laud knowledge, though i imagine you're referring to 1 Cor 8? which, i believe, we should take in context. and, of course, knowledge without love is not good.
but what drives Angela is love. i understand it may not seem like it, because you don't know her. i do, and i believe with all my heart it distresses her to see people trapped in bondage. if you glance at her post history, you will see it.
you know... the knowledge she has gained from study actually does make her more qualified to speak to the subject.
not that i'm her apologist, but i have the privilege of calling her my friend, and i love her.
wow,
what a precious post!!!
i am very sorry you feel degraded.
i'm not aware Scripture speaks poorly of education? i can cite a wealth of verses that laud knowledge, though i imagine you're referring to 1 Cor 8? which, i believe, we should take in context. and, of course, knowledge without love is not good.
but what drives Angela is love. i understand it may not seem like it, because you don't know her. i do, and i believe with all my heart it distresses her to see people trapped in bondage. if you glance at her post history, you will see it.
you know... the knowledge she has gained from study actually does make her more qualified to speak to the subject.
not that i'm her apologist, but i have the privilege of calling her my friend, and i love her.
i'm not aware Scripture speaks poorly of education? i can cite a wealth of verses that laud knowledge, though i imagine you're referring to 1 Cor 8? which, i believe, we should take in context. and, of course, knowledge without love is not good.
but what drives Angela is love. i understand it may not seem like it, because you don't know her. i do, and i believe with all my heart it distresses her to see people trapped in bondage. if you glance at her post history, you will see it.
you know... the knowledge she has gained from study actually does make her more qualified to speak to the subject.
not that i'm her apologist, but i have the privilege of calling her my friend, and i love her.
as we all eventually begin to realize, 'the green monster' will raise his true heart and
headless knowledge, he always becomes 'transparent', when none teachable',.,
this is just a part of the goings-on in this evil, fallen, world =
just Praise Jesus for the many gifts that He bestows upon us, and especially the ones where
He allows us to see ourselves for who we truly are...oh my, what a precious gift...
and afterwards, He allows us to see the hearts of those that are in the greatest need
of His amazing Love...
headless knowledge, he always becomes 'transparent', when none teachable',.,
this is just a part of the goings-on in this evil, fallen, world =
just Praise Jesus for the many gifts that He bestows upon us, and especially the ones where
He allows us to see ourselves for who we truly are...oh my, what a precious gift...
and afterwards, He allows us to see the hearts of those that are in the greatest need
of His amazing Love...
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So you have a Bible version that says 1 Peter 2:17 differently? Please share.
First I heard of him being accused as a pedophile; I only heard he was accused of being a homosexual.
As for your slander, which is what it is, you should know better than to pick up what smear campaigns were designed for; making pitiful excuses not to use the KJV. Have you ever heard of those who protest way too much? That's right. They are liars. So prove everything by Him, brother. Don't repeat that slander again because there are still verses in the KJV speaking against homosexuality; and no modern Bible has any proof that a verse reproving it was removed in the KJV. I know you were citing him as a pedophile, but the homosexuality has been disproven and I don't even know where they got pedophile from, but no doubt, the liars waited until after his death.
Quoted from the link below from a Book entitled "The Answer Book; A Helpbook for Christians" By Dr. Samuel C. Gipp Th.D.
Was King James a homosexual?
There is another site that shared what Gipp had done in full at that site but not before having his own inromation shared.
Was King James a Homosexual?
So either way you are wrong in bearing false witness against a brother in the Lord who cannot defend himself as well as being in wrong for disregarding the exhortation given in 1 Peter 2:17.
As well as this exhortation below;
Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.[SUP] 2 [/SUP]Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.[SUP] 3 [/SUP]For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:[SUP] 4 [/SUP]For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.[SUP] 5 [/SUP]Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
But I reckon the haters are gonna hate the brother and not just the sin the brother has been accused of.
Do repent, brother. I say this in seeking your good standing with the Lord, but I am sure there are other faults you need the Lord's help in discerning and leaning on Him to repent of just as much as I do.
First I heard of him being accused as a pedophile; I only heard he was accused of being a homosexual.
As for your slander, which is what it is, you should know better than to pick up what smear campaigns were designed for; making pitiful excuses not to use the KJV. Have you ever heard of those who protest way too much? That's right. They are liars. So prove everything by Him, brother. Don't repeat that slander again because there are still verses in the KJV speaking against homosexuality; and no modern Bible has any proof that a verse reproving it was removed in the KJV. I know you were citing him as a pedophile, but the homosexuality has been disproven and I don't even know where they got pedophile from, but no doubt, the liars waited until after his death.
Quoted from the link below from a Book entitled "The Answer Book; A Helpbook for Christians" By Dr. Samuel C. Gipp Th.D.
Was King James a homosexual?
There is another site that shared what Gipp had done in full at that site but not before having his own inromation shared.
Was King James a Homosexual?
So either way you are wrong in bearing false witness against a brother in the Lord who cannot defend himself as well as being in wrong for disregarding the exhortation given in 1 Peter 2:17.
As well as this exhortation below;
Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.[SUP] 2 [/SUP]Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.[SUP] 3 [/SUP]For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:[SUP] 4 [/SUP]For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.[SUP] 5 [/SUP]Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
But I reckon the haters are gonna hate the brother and not just the sin the brother has been accused of.
Do repent, brother. I say this in seeking your good standing with the Lord, but I am sure there are other faults you need the Lord's help in discerning and leaning on Him to repent of just as much as I do.
What does it matter if king James was a homosexual,the KJV speaks against homosexuality big time,Old Testament and New Testament.
King Nebuchadnezzar was a heathen king that acknowledged the occult,and many gods,but God blessed his kingdom,and used him.
Dan 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.(Babylon,had the revelation of the God of Israel that caused the kingdom to flourish,and was actually the most favored of all the Gentile kingdoms until the king's son blew it,and they lost the revelation of God).
Dan 2:46 Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel, and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him.
Dan 2:47 The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.
Dan 2:48 Then the king made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon.
Dan 2:49 Then Daniel requested of the king, and he set Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, over the affairs of the province of Babylon: but Daniel sat in the gate of the king.
Dan 3:28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.
Dan 3:29 Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.
Dan 3:30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the province of Babylon.
Dan 4:34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
Dan 4:36 At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellors and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me.
Dan 4:37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.
God blessed the kingdom of Babylon greatly although they were of the occult,sorcery,human religion,believed in many gods,and anything goes multiculturism,and His truth prevailed there despite their heathen ways.
God can use the heathen,and have His truth shine despite their heathen ways,for who else can He use seeing no nation,or kingdom has done it right before God,except Israel when they were in the truth.
America allows the occult,the new age movement that believes Lucifer is the helper of this world,all false religions to be practiced there including Satanism,anything goes multiculturism,worldliness,fleshy pleasures,the pursuit of money and material things to the point of ridiculousness,but God uses her to preach the Gospel in to the world.
So you think the leaders are oh so Christian,for it appears they are heathen although they might say Christian.
Who else is God going to use to get His word out to the people,and His truth,but a heathen nation,and ruler,for no Gentile nation did it right before God,although many mingled God and the world in their nation.
King James being homosexual has no bearing in whether the truth will shine for it will not stop God from His truth going forth because they are heathen,and immoral.
They say king James did not have anything to do with the translation of the Bible,but it was 47 English scholars.
Like God used Babylon to proclaim His truth in the world,in which they influenced many when the Jews were led captive by them,and Babylon was controlling.
God must of also had a purpose for the KJV Bible written at that time,to get His truth out there,and if any heathenistical ways are there it is not going to stop God from His truth going forth if needs be.
Did they even call it the KJV Bible back then,or was that a later name.
On a side note,something to consider.
Amplified Bible-New-1958,Old-1964,Revised-1987.
English Standard Version-fall 2001.
Living Bible-New-1962,Old-1971.
New American Bible-1970,New revised 1986,Pslams revised-1992.
New American Standard-New-1963,whole Bible-1971,revised-1995.
New English Bible-New-1961,Old-1970.
New International version-New-1973,Old-1978,updated-2011.
New Living Translation-1996.
New Revised Standard Version-1990.
Revised Standard Version-New-1946,Old-1952,revised-1971.
It seems like when people think of the KJV they think of hard preaching,tough preaching,telling the people to act Christlike,no playing around,preaching the fiery pits of hell if disobedient,but it appears with the new versions,and the popularity of them today,there is more hypocrisy among people that claim Christ than before the new versions came out.
Coincidence.
I doubt that God's whole truth was not known to people until the newer versions came out,and everybody before them lacked in truth,when He is God that can rule over anyone,and His truth shine that people cannot thwart no matter how much of a heathen they are.
King Nebuchadnezzar was a heathen king that acknowledged the occult,and many gods,but God blessed his kingdom,and used him.
Dan 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.(Babylon,had the revelation of the God of Israel that caused the kingdom to flourish,and was actually the most favored of all the Gentile kingdoms until the king's son blew it,and they lost the revelation of God).
Dan 2:46 Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel, and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him.
Dan 2:47 The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.
Dan 2:48 Then the king made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon.
Dan 2:49 Then Daniel requested of the king, and he set Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, over the affairs of the province of Babylon: but Daniel sat in the gate of the king.
Dan 3:28 Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.
Dan 3:29 Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.
Dan 3:30 Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in the province of Babylon.
Dan 4:34 And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
Dan 4:36 At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellors and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me.
Dan 4:37 Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.
God blessed the kingdom of Babylon greatly although they were of the occult,sorcery,human religion,believed in many gods,and anything goes multiculturism,and His truth prevailed there despite their heathen ways.
God can use the heathen,and have His truth shine despite their heathen ways,for who else can He use seeing no nation,or kingdom has done it right before God,except Israel when they were in the truth.
America allows the occult,the new age movement that believes Lucifer is the helper of this world,all false religions to be practiced there including Satanism,anything goes multiculturism,worldliness,fleshy pleasures,the pursuit of money and material things to the point of ridiculousness,but God uses her to preach the Gospel in to the world.
So you think the leaders are oh so Christian,for it appears they are heathen although they might say Christian.
Who else is God going to use to get His word out to the people,and His truth,but a heathen nation,and ruler,for no Gentile nation did it right before God,although many mingled God and the world in their nation.
King James being homosexual has no bearing in whether the truth will shine for it will not stop God from His truth going forth because they are heathen,and immoral.
They say king James did not have anything to do with the translation of the Bible,but it was 47 English scholars.
Like God used Babylon to proclaim His truth in the world,in which they influenced many when the Jews were led captive by them,and Babylon was controlling.
God must of also had a purpose for the KJV Bible written at that time,to get His truth out there,and if any heathenistical ways are there it is not going to stop God from His truth going forth if needs be.
Did they even call it the KJV Bible back then,or was that a later name.
On a side note,something to consider.
Amplified Bible-New-1958,Old-1964,Revised-1987.
English Standard Version-fall 2001.
Living Bible-New-1962,Old-1971.
New American Bible-1970,New revised 1986,Pslams revised-1992.
New American Standard-New-1963,whole Bible-1971,revised-1995.
New English Bible-New-1961,Old-1970.
New International version-New-1973,Old-1978,updated-2011.
New Living Translation-1996.
New Revised Standard Version-1990.
Revised Standard Version-New-1946,Old-1952,revised-1971.
It seems like when people think of the KJV they think of hard preaching,tough preaching,telling the people to act Christlike,no playing around,preaching the fiery pits of hell if disobedient,but it appears with the new versions,and the popularity of them today,there is more hypocrisy among people that claim Christ than before the new versions came out.
Coincidence.
I doubt that God's whole truth was not known to people until the newer versions came out,and everybody before them lacked in truth,when He is God that can rule over anyone,and His truth shine that people cannot thwart no matter how much of a heathen they are.