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Think on this bro:
Calvinists have the limited atonement thing going, and they also believe in once saved always saved or perseverence of the saints.
Then you ask them what about this warning passage and that warning passage about apostasy. They proceed to quote john's epistle out of context (they went out from us but were not of us etc.)and apply it to every apostate without realizing its talking about the gnostics who were antichrists denying Jesus came in the flesh as the context states.
All good so far, but then we get to one of the warning passages in Hebrews 10:29! And there it says they have trodden the son of God and have counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith they was sanctified, an unholy thing . Big problem! If Jesus didnt die for everyone there is nothing to trample and count unholy for the fake convert who was never real to begin with. They went out from us but were not of us dont apply to that verse. FAIL
This is where they're in trouble, they got three options:
1. Deny the P in TULIP which will never happen, too much time has gone by and too much tradition and pride.
2. Deny the L in TULIP which again will never happen
3. Pull up with mental gymnastics, and make fun of me or my argument or pull a rabbit of some kind out the hat. These guys tend to be very intellectual and educated by worldly standards so im excited to see what they'll come up with.
The answer to OP is simple, of course not! Glad the poll is at 100% its a closed case
Calvinists have the limited atonement thing going, and they also believe in once saved always saved or perseverence of the saints.
Then you ask them what about this warning passage and that warning passage about apostasy. They proceed to quote john's epistle out of context (they went out from us but were not of us etc.)and apply it to every apostate without realizing its talking about the gnostics who were antichrists denying Jesus came in the flesh as the context states.
All good so far, but then we get to one of the warning passages in Hebrews 10:29! And there it says they have trodden the son of God and have counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith they was sanctified, an unholy thing . Big problem! If Jesus didnt die for everyone there is nothing to trample and count unholy for the fake convert who was never real to begin with. They went out from us but were not of us dont apply to that verse. FAIL
This is where they're in trouble, they got three options:
1. Deny the P in TULIP which will never happen, too much time has gone by and too much tradition and pride.
2. Deny the L in TULIP which again will never happen
3. Pull up with mental gymnastics, and make fun of me or my argument or pull a rabbit of some kind out the hat. These guys tend to be very intellectual and educated by worldly standards so im excited to see what they'll come up with.
The answer to OP is simple, of course not! Glad the poll is at 100% its a closed case
People who do not believe in eternal security are trusting not in God for salvation, But in self.
It does not matter if your calvanist or not. Eternal life is eternal life. It is based on the work of God. Not in our own works. The question is, who do you trust . You? (If you do you will be spending your life trying to work to keep your salvation) or God, If this is the case, you will spend the rest of your life in the power of God trying to learn his ways, learning to love others, and learning to trust him in ALL areas of our life’s. In doing this, we will do many great works.