It seems you missed the fact that I was quoting the video and giving its title
Also, you say, as if they are always identical. Does that mean they sometimes are?
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Also, you say, as if they are always identical. Does that mean they sometimes are?
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are you sure they do?
I might get in trouble for this...but I had a tooth pulled and the meds have kicked in LOL!
If you listened to any of it, it could only have been two minutes of a video twenty two times longer. Do you judge everything like that? Is that how I should watch the vids you keep recommending?
are you sure they do?
I might get in trouble for this...but I had a tooth pulled and the meds have kicked in LOL!
Ouch I hope and pray you are feeling better.
Blessings
Bill
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[FONT="]29 For whom he did foreknow,
he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son,
that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.[/FONT]
[FONT="]30 Moreover whom he did predestinate,
them he also called:
and whom he called,
them he also justified:
and whom he justified,
them he also glorified.[/FONT]
Isa46
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness:
13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
Yes....as In Romans 8:29-30.....all that is spoken of is certain to come to pass....
[FONT="]29 For whom he did foreknow,
he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son,
that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.[/FONT]
[FONT="]30 Moreover whom he did predestinate,
them he also called:
and whom he called,
them he also justified:
and whom he justified,
them he also glorified.[/FONT]
Isa46
9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness:
13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
I have heard him a few years ago, I know what he does....he does not exegete the texts...if you really want i will go over the whole video and tell you his errors at the time in the video where he does it....do you want that to happen???
Well...allow me to offer a more reliable source;
This sounds like Jesus to me;
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
At the 107 mark he begins to confuse biblical predestination with fatalistic determinism, which is what islam believes. Christians do not believe in an impersonal fate, but we have an all knowing perfect God who has determined whatsoever comes to pass for His own Glory and grace...
at 121...he misuses the biblical teaching of predestination in exactly the way I described...it is used 5 times in the bible, and it is speaking of us being conformed to Jesus Image.
at the 6;30 mark he is setting up to depart from the text and start to build his caricature, iThink I have heard this message twice already...
then he diverts to the choosing of Israel.....but does not follow the biblical narrative but he interjects his own dispensational view on the text.,,,between 8:00-9:47
between 9:47-11:34 he actually mentions Gods election of some Israelites, not all.
then he diverts to the choosing of Israel.....but does not follow the biblical narrative but he interjects his own dispensational view on the text.,,,between 8:00-9:47
between 9:47-11:34 he actually mentions Gods election of some Israelites, not all.
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at 12;15- 12-52...here comes the error, and his departure from the actual text where he denies individual election unto salvation...trying the old...it is national election, not personal, exactly the opposite of what the Apostle Paul taught....
His sad denial of truth happens and he is telling these poor people to add his error to the margins of their bibles.....at 13;04.....
Paul clearly said...for ..THE CHILDREN.... He did not say...the nations...lol
at 13:33 he tries to say Paul is speaking about the Edomites...wrong.... Paul is answering what went wrong among the Israelites?
His sad denial of truth happens and he is telling these poor people to add his error to the margins of their bibles.....at 13;04.....
Paul clearly said...for ..THE CHILDREN.... He did not say...the nations...lol
at 13:33 he tries to say Paul is speaking about the Edomites...wrong.... Paul is answering what went wrong among the Israelites?
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Since you are attacking the salvation of myself and others with this Scripture, it shows that you have nothing to offer other than insults. I will report this to the Mods since you have violated the terms and conditions of the forum.
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at 13:33 he tries to say Paul is speaking about the Edomites...wrong.... Paul is answering what went wrong among the Israelites?
at 13:53 he denies God is speaking of salvation when the whole rest od=f the chapter is speaking exactly of salvation of believing elect persons, both jew and gentile...look at the deceived people sitting there listening to this smoke and mirrors eisegesis.
at 13:53 he denies God is speaking of salvation when the whole rest od=f the chapter is speaking exactly of salvation of believing elect persons, both jew and gentile...look at the deceived people sitting there listening to this smoke and mirrors eisegesis.
I did not attack anyones salvation...i stated the biblical truth that any truth is revealed and concealed....that goes for both believers and unbelievers....
You cannot answer biblically so you intend to run for cover to the moderators???? really???
you posted this correct?
Originally Posted by Nehemiah6
Sounds Rosicrucian to me. Here's what they say:
It is you who attack believers on here and what they understand 24/7...you cannot answer openly so you now seek to silence verses offered in an open forum...put your big boy pants on and answer the verses, and do not make evil suggestions about my post, or my motives.
No one can see anyones heart on here. but we can read their posts.,.you attack every thread, when you get biblical answers you do not like it.
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At 14;11 he claims it is service not salvation.....Paul was not addressing service at all, but why do Israel after the flesh not believe.
the whole chapter is dealing with salvation, see here;
[FONT="]18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?[/FONT]
[FONT="]20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?[/FONT]
[FONT="]21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?[/FONT]
[FONT="]22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:[/FONT]
[FONT="]23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,[/FONT]
[FONT="]24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?[/FONT]
[FONT="]25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved[/FONT]
the whole chapter is dealing with salvation, see here;
[FONT="]18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?[/FONT]
[FONT="]20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?[/FONT]
[FONT="]21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?[/FONT]
[FONT="]22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:[/FONT]
[FONT="]23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,[/FONT]
[FONT="]24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?[/FONT]
[FONT="]25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved[/FONT]
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You have attacked my beliefs as satanic or of the devil.
If that is not questioning my salvation. What is ?
Blessings
Bill
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he cannot respond biblically so he looks to avoid the verses offered and tries desperate measures to avoid posting on topic....
God reveals truth...as with peter;
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Also Jn3;
27 [FONT="]John answered and said,[/FONT][FONT="] A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
This is bible 101.....[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
Around the 16 minute mark...he now speaks of preference, lol
All three points are wrong... now he misuses romans 5:6
at 17 minutes he says God called him to preach, yet error is coming forth from him.....
now he explains away verses 16-22...between 17-19 minute mark...
All three points are wrong... now he misuses romans 5:6
at 17 minutes he says God called him to preach, yet error is coming forth from him.....
now he explains away verses 16-22...between 17-19 minute mark...
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he keeps saying God is sovereign, but he does not mean it when it comes to salvation....after 21 minutes he now changes the wording of whom God will have mercy on???? This is horrible...did you listen to the whole thing with your bible open?
The bible did not say here ...who asked for mercy
The bible did not say here ...who asked for mercy