GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?
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Sure it is in Hebrews 4. Please follow along.
1. Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
The Rest is His Rest, this is the Gospel, the victory over sin through His indwelling Spirit. The fact that this rest in verse one is the Gospel is proven in verse two
2.For unto us was the Gospel preached , as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
The Gospel which is the New Covenant, the placing of God's commandments, His Word, (Heb. 8:11;Rom 10:6-8.) His intent into our hearts and minds through the indwelling of His Christ. This is the rest in verse 1 which we enter into through faith. Or do not enter into because of unbelief (obstinate and rebellious disobedience).
This unbelief is discussed earlier in chapter 3
Hebrews
3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day, [now] if ye will hear his voice,......
8 Harden not your hearts,......
11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For they do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, (his indwelling Spirit) if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? [was it] not with them that had sinned,
Through an Evil heart of unbelief, we depart from the living God We are hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. And we will not know His ways.
So today hear his voice, harden not our hearts, as in the provocation when they did provoke. Them that sinned. Evil hearted unbelievers, hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Which whom was He grieved?
Them that sinned and had not held their confidence steadfast unto the end. These are those who had not entered into His Rest.
Now Back to chapter 4:1,2
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left [us] of entering into his rest (the Gospel), any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it]
4:3 For we which have believed, do enter into rest. (the Gospel)
We do enter into His Rest, receive the Gospel the New Covenant, Which is His Commandments, His Word in our Hearts and in our minds. The Anointing; HIS Christ. For it is He that worketh in us to will and do His good pleasure. Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God.
2 Cor. 3:5 Heb 8:10
3 As he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
The works for our salvation in the Gospel were finished from beginning when He had laid the foundation of the World.
We trampled on the gift of the Gospel from the Beginning of time and even though we deserve God's wrath salvation is still available to us.
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love..... the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:8; Eph 1:4
Now pay attention please.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this again, If they shall enter into my rest.
And this again HE says in verse five. The Sabbath, the Seventh Day HE speaks if we enter into, receive His rest, the Gospel, the indwelling of His Spirit. HIS Commandments if we enter into HIS rest which is the Gospel
God spoke of the Seventh Day in a certain place and that certain place was on Mt Sinia.
And this again, He speaks; "if we shall enter into His Rest," receive of the Gospel, Gods indwelling Spirit.
6.Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein , and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Remember the previous chapter they Never received the Gospel therefore since they never truly enter into union with the Father they never truly kept a Sabbath. They could not due to their unbelief through the deceitfulness of sin.
A unholy being cannot keep a day holy, sanctified. Their very presence defiles it.
So they never truly kept the Sabbath. They were defiled by the deceitfulness of sin. We are enjoined to rest and to keep the day Holy. If we have iniquity on our hearts it prevents us from keeping it Holy. Therefore they never truly kept it in the way our Lord YHWH had intended.
7.Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David [Ps 95:7,8] To day, [ Now ]after so long a time; as it is said , To day [Right now] if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts as in the day of provocation,
Verses six and seven are a call to repentance. Today (in other words now) after so long a time today (right now) if you will hear His voice harden not your hearts. Receive the rest that we receive in Christ, the Gospel. For He is our God and we are the people of His Pasture, His Resting, His indwelling; for we are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them and walk in them Heb 8:10 I will put my laws into their mind and write them in their hearts and I will be their God and they shall be my people.That is the Gospel; the New Covenant.
8.For if Jesus had given them rest , [Joshua leading the children of Israel into the promised land] , then would he, David, [See Psalm 95] not afterward have spoken of another day.
9.There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
The Greek word here in verse 9 for rest means a "sabbathing", a keeping of a Sabbath. Prior to this the Greek word used for rest meant to rest, to stop. That is why it was used in relation to the Gospel. God wants us to stop living our lives in sin and live our lives in Him. Rest in Him. His Rest, the Gospel. For it is He that wants to work in you both to will and do His good pleasure.
10.For he that is entered into his rest [received the Gospel], he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His.
Did you get that? Because of receiving the Gospel we cease from our own works as GOD did from His. Both rests are mentioned in the same verse. "As is" is a direct comparison. So with that you must ask yourself how and when did God cease from his own works. The answer to that is recorded in Gen 2.... on the Seventh Day, And God did rest from all His work on the seventh day (see Hebrews Verse 4 and Genesis Chapter 2:1-3).
God Is a Spiritual Being he is always in the state of Spiritual Rest. On the Seventh Day Sabbath he ceased from the physical labor of creation. Which is recorded in Genesis 2.
Therefore He that received the Gospel, cease from their own physical work as God did from His physical work on the 7th day Sabbath. And this is, was and will continue to be done on the Seventh day of the week.
1. Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
The Rest is His Rest, this is the Gospel, the victory over sin through His indwelling Spirit. The fact that this rest in verse one is the Gospel is proven in verse two
2.For unto us was the Gospel preached , as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
The Gospel which is the New Covenant, the placing of God's commandments, His Word, (Heb. 8:11;Rom 10:6-8.) His intent into our hearts and minds through the indwelling of His Christ. This is the rest in verse 1 which we enter into through faith. Or do not enter into because of unbelief (obstinate and rebellious disobedience).
This unbelief is discussed earlier in chapter 3
Hebrews
3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
3:7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day, [now] if ye will hear his voice,......
8 Harden not your hearts,......
11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. For they do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, (his indwelling Spirit) if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? [was it] not with them that had sinned,
Through an Evil heart of unbelief, we depart from the living God We are hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. And we will not know His ways.
So today hear his voice, harden not our hearts, as in the provocation when they did provoke. Them that sinned. Evil hearted unbelievers, hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
Which whom was He grieved?
Them that sinned and had not held their confidence steadfast unto the end. These are those who had not entered into His Rest.
Now Back to chapter 4:1,2
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left [us] of entering into his rest (the Gospel), any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it]
4:3 For we which have believed, do enter into rest. (the Gospel)
We do enter into His Rest, receive the Gospel the New Covenant, Which is His Commandments, His Word in our Hearts and in our minds. The Anointing; HIS Christ. For it is He that worketh in us to will and do His good pleasure. Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think anything as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God.
2 Cor. 3:5 Heb 8:10
3 As he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
The works for our salvation in the Gospel were finished from beginning when He had laid the foundation of the World.
We trampled on the gift of the Gospel from the Beginning of time and even though we deserve God's wrath salvation is still available to us.
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love..... the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:8; Eph 1:4
Now pay attention please.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this again, If they shall enter into my rest.
And this again HE says in verse five. The Sabbath, the Seventh Day HE speaks if we enter into, receive His rest, the Gospel, the indwelling of His Spirit. HIS Commandments if we enter into HIS rest which is the Gospel
God spoke of the Seventh Day in a certain place and that certain place was on Mt Sinia.
And this again, He speaks; "if we shall enter into His Rest," receive of the Gospel, Gods indwelling Spirit.
6.Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein , and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Remember the previous chapter they Never received the Gospel therefore since they never truly enter into union with the Father they never truly kept a Sabbath. They could not due to their unbelief through the deceitfulness of sin.
A unholy being cannot keep a day holy, sanctified. Their very presence defiles it.
So they never truly kept the Sabbath. They were defiled by the deceitfulness of sin. We are enjoined to rest and to keep the day Holy. If we have iniquity on our hearts it prevents us from keeping it Holy. Therefore they never truly kept it in the way our Lord YHWH had intended.
7.Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David [Ps 95:7,8] To day, [ Now ]after so long a time; as it is said , To day [Right now] if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts as in the day of provocation,
Verses six and seven are a call to repentance. Today (in other words now) after so long a time today (right now) if you will hear His voice harden not your hearts. Receive the rest that we receive in Christ, the Gospel. For He is our God and we are the people of His Pasture, His Resting, His indwelling; for we are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them and walk in them Heb 8:10 I will put my laws into their mind and write them in their hearts and I will be their God and they shall be my people.That is the Gospel; the New Covenant.
8.For if Jesus had given them rest , [Joshua leading the children of Israel into the promised land] , then would he, David, [See Psalm 95] not afterward have spoken of another day.
9.There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
The Greek word here in verse 9 for rest means a "sabbathing", a keeping of a Sabbath. Prior to this the Greek word used for rest meant to rest, to stop. That is why it was used in relation to the Gospel. God wants us to stop living our lives in sin and live our lives in Him. Rest in Him. His Rest, the Gospel. For it is He that wants to work in you both to will and do His good pleasure.
10.For he that is entered into his rest [received the Gospel], he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from His.
Did you get that? Because of receiving the Gospel we cease from our own works as GOD did from His. Both rests are mentioned in the same verse. "As is" is a direct comparison. So with that you must ask yourself how and when did God cease from his own works. The answer to that is recorded in Gen 2.... on the Seventh Day, And God did rest from all His work on the seventh day (see Hebrews Verse 4 and Genesis Chapter 2:1-3).
God Is a Spiritual Being he is always in the state of Spiritual Rest. On the Seventh Day Sabbath he ceased from the physical labor of creation. Which is recorded in Genesis 2.
Therefore He that received the Gospel, cease from their own physical work as God did from His physical work on the 7th day Sabbath. And this is, was and will continue to be done on the Seventh day of the week.
The Sabbath is part of the Law that is fulfilled by each every believer. This they do because of the Love that they have for GOD and their fellow man.
Please reread This.
2. to render full
That is how the word in question is understood. If we would look the word up in our Strong's we would see it defined thusly...
G4137 πληρόω pleroo (play-roh'-o) v.
1. to fully, completely fill
2. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow)....
To further emphasize this point here are but a few of the many other places the word is used.
Being
filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
(Php 1:11 KJV)
For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be
filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
(Col 1:9 KJV)
He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
(Eph 4:10 KJV)These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
(Joh 15:11 KJV)
Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
(2Th 1:11 KJV)
Let's take a closer look shall we.
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled (filled, done, crammed; completed to the uttermost) the law. For (because) this, Thou shalt no,commit adultery,Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if any other commandment (injunction, i.e. an authoritative prescription), it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling (cramming to the uttermost) of the law. And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
(Rom 13:8-14 KJV)
Fulfilling is cramming; completing to the uttermost not replacing.
For he that loveth another hath fulfilled (filled, done, crammed; completed to the uttermost) the law.
The Law in verse eight is used in reference to the Ten Commandments. That is why Paul goes on to quote a few of them in verse nine. And thenprecedes on to broader the spectrum by mention any other commandment. That is an injunction given. In other words an authoritative prescription. Hence a commandment. Any commandment in relation to love.
As you know Romans is a letter. So All this is in context to things written in it which were previously establish.
Case and point.
GOD has said, "Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (That is, to bring Christ, the Word, all that GOD would have us be. HIS Commandments; HIS Statutes) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (That is, to bring up Christ, the Word, all that GOD would have us be. HIS Commandments; HIS Statutes again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ; the Word, the commandments; HIS Statutes manifested in the flesh, our flesh through His flesh) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, in thy heart, and in thy hand: that we may do it; that is, THE WORD OF FAITH, which we preach. And that is the Gospel, the Kingdom of GOD (CHRIST) in you. For GOD hath said, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them." And HE shall be our GOD and we shall be HIS people, for it is GOD that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. Christ (the Word, His Commandments, GOD's will) in us the hope of Glory. For without this faith (the Word; HIS Christ; His Commandments; HIS Statutes in our hearts and in our minds) it is impossible to please GOD. This the righteousness of GOD being manifested. The righteousness which is by the Faith of Jesus Christ; into all and upon all them that believe for there is no difference.
The verses in Romans 10:6-8; Deut. 30:11-14 ; Hebrews 8:10,11; Jeremiah 31:33 are all speaking of GOD's gift of enabling us through HIS Spirit to be as HE would have us be. We Fulfill to the uttermost HIS Commandments; HIS Statutes; HIS Word because Christ is now in our hearts and we are one as they are one. Not because of something we do. For it is HE that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. Please notice that this gift in which is being spoken to the Gentiles in Romans 10 was also spoken to Israel. This Good News; the Gospel was available to us from the beginning of Moses ministry. As Hebrews 4:2 states "For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it."
(Heb 4:2 KJV)
But it did not profit many of them because they did not utilize the Faith. Christ; the Word; HIS Commandments. HIS Statutes in their hearts, minds and in their mouths so they could to do it.
So once again we share; let's walk in Faith; the FAITH. And we shall, not fulfill the lust of the flesh, but fulfill the Love of GOD. His Commandment; HIS Statutes; HIS Word. Christ in us the EXPECTATION of GLORY; GOD!
The Sabbath is of the Commandments; HIS Statutes; HIS Word; Christ which has been place in our hearts that we do that which has placed there. This is the Gospel. The LORD thy GOD will circumcise thy hearts and the hearts of thy seed. Deut. 30:6
Please reread This.
Fulfilling does not mean replacing my friend.
In regards to defining the word translated fulfilling. Here is an excerpt from Thayer's unabridged Lexicon.
1. to make full, to fill, to fill up:In regards to defining the word translated fulfilling. Here is an excerpt from Thayer's unabridged Lexicon.
2. to render full
That is how the word in question is understood. If we would look the word up in our Strong's we would see it defined thusly...
G4137 πληρόω pleroo (play-roh'-o) v.
1. to fully, completely fill
2. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow)....
To further emphasize this point here are but a few of the many other places the word is used.
Being
filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.
(Php 1:11 KJV)
For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be
filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
(Col 1:9 KJV)
He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
(Eph 4:10 KJV)These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
(Joh 15:11 KJV)
Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:
(2Th 1:11 KJV)
Let's take a closer look shall we.
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled (filled, done, crammed; completed to the uttermost) the law. For (because) this, Thou shalt no,commit adultery,Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if any other commandment (injunction, i.e. an authoritative prescription), it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling (cramming to the uttermost) of the law. And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
(Rom 13:8-14 KJV)
Fulfilling is cramming; completing to the uttermost not replacing.
For he that loveth another hath fulfilled (filled, done, crammed; completed to the uttermost) the law.
The Law in verse eight is used in reference to the Ten Commandments. That is why Paul goes on to quote a few of them in verse nine. And thenprecedes on to broader the spectrum by mention any other commandment. That is an injunction given. In other words an authoritative prescription. Hence a commandment. Any commandment in relation to love.
As you know Romans is a letter. So All this is in context to things written in it which were previously establish.
Case and point.
GOD has said, "Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (That is, to bring Christ, the Word, all that GOD would have us be. HIS Commandments; HIS Statutes) down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (That is, to bring up Christ, the Word, all that GOD would have us be. HIS Commandments; HIS Statutes again from the dead.) But what saith it? The word (Christ; the Word, the commandments; HIS Statutes manifested in the flesh, our flesh through His flesh) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, in thy heart, and in thy hand: that we may do it; that is, THE WORD OF FAITH, which we preach. And that is the Gospel, the Kingdom of GOD (CHRIST) in you. For GOD hath said, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them." And HE shall be our GOD and we shall be HIS people, for it is GOD that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. Christ (the Word, His Commandments, GOD's will) in us the hope of Glory. For without this faith (the Word; HIS Christ; His Commandments; HIS Statutes in our hearts and in our minds) it is impossible to please GOD. This the righteousness of GOD being manifested. The righteousness which is by the Faith of Jesus Christ; into all and upon all them that believe for there is no difference.
The verses in Romans 10:6-8; Deut. 30:11-14 ; Hebrews 8:10,11; Jeremiah 31:33 are all speaking of GOD's gift of enabling us through HIS Spirit to be as HE would have us be. We Fulfill to the uttermost HIS Commandments; HIS Statutes; HIS Word because Christ is now in our hearts and we are one as they are one. Not because of something we do. For it is HE that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. Please notice that this gift in which is being spoken to the Gentiles in Romans 10 was also spoken to Israel. This Good News; the Gospel was available to us from the beginning of Moses ministry. As Hebrews 4:2 states "For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it."
(Heb 4:2 KJV)
But it did not profit many of them because they did not utilize the Faith. Christ; the Word; HIS Commandments. HIS Statutes in their hearts, minds and in their mouths so they could to do it.
So once again we share; let's walk in Faith; the FAITH. And we shall, not fulfill the lust of the flesh, but fulfill the Love of GOD. His Commandment; HIS Statutes; HIS Word. Christ in us the EXPECTATION of GLORY; GOD!
The Sabbath is of the Commandments; HIS Statutes; HIS Word; Christ which has been place in our hearts that we do that which has placed there. This is the Gospel. The LORD thy GOD will circumcise thy hearts and the hearts of thy seed. Deut. 30:6
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The Pharisees thought the same thing. They didn't follow the OT Sabbath either, rather, they created their own. But Jesus didn't, Paul didn't, James didn't. They understood as does LB, that God created His Sabbath for us men. And given that LB and James and Paul believed in this Jesus, they chose to honor the commandments that God created specifically for them as Jesus did.
How do you get this so wrong?
Did God start His Work back up on the 8th day? No He didn't. Those that receive the Gospel, by faith, do not go back to their work at the law, they cease from their work AS GOD DID FROM HIS. That means they don't start back up on the 8th day and they don't only rest on Saturdays.
Matthew 11:28 [FONT="]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[/FONT]Did the Lord mean only on saturdays?
Galatians 2:21 [FONT="]I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
[/FONT]Did Paul mean except for the saturday sabbath?
If a person goes back to their understanding of the law then they turn away from Grace.
The people already had a saturday sabbath as outlined by the law. Legalists and Judaizers make Rest back into work at the law.
If a person is Righteous before God by the Law then Christ is dead in vain. That means that your understanding and your subsequent work at the law does NOT make you Righteous before God. Your understanding and work at the law is error. Its sin.
Who will save you when your own work at Righteousness does not measure up to True Righteousness?
Romans 9:31-32
[FONT="]31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.[/FONT]
[FONT="]32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Romans 10:3-4
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[FONT="]3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
The ONLY WAY for someone to think they should rest on a 7th day sabbath is to look back to the law and try to do it according to their understanding. That's working at the law.
You can have a righteousness that comes from your work at the law or you can have a Righteousness that is given is by the Lord Jesus Christ as a gift.
Which one would you prefer? Which one could cause you to rest from your own work at the law?
Hebrews 4:2-3
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[FONT="]2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.[/FONT]
Did God start His Work back up on the 8th day? No He didn't. Those that receive the Gospel, by faith, do not go back to their work at the law, they cease from their work AS GOD DID FROM HIS. That means they don't start back up on the 8th day and they don't only rest on Saturdays.
Matthew 11:28 [FONT="]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[/FONT]Did the Lord mean only on saturdays?
Galatians 2:21 [FONT="]I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
[/FONT]Did Paul mean except for the saturday sabbath?
If a person goes back to their understanding of the law then they turn away from Grace.
The people already had a saturday sabbath as outlined by the law. Legalists and Judaizers make Rest back into work at the law.
If a person is Righteous before God by the Law then Christ is dead in vain. That means that your understanding and your subsequent work at the law does NOT make you Righteous before God. Your understanding and work at the law is error. Its sin.
Who will save you when your own work at Righteousness does not measure up to True Righteousness?
Romans 9:31-32
[FONT="]31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.[/FONT]
[FONT="]32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Romans 10:3-4
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[FONT="]3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
The ONLY WAY for someone to think they should rest on a 7th day sabbath is to look back to the law and try to do it according to their understanding. That's working at the law.
You can have a righteousness that comes from your work at the law or you can have a Righteousness that is given is by the Lord Jesus Christ as a gift.
Which one would you prefer? Which one could cause you to rest from your own work at the law?
Hebrews 4:2-3
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[FONT="]2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.[/FONT]
[FONT="]3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.[/FONT]
gb9,
re: "in the Olivent discourse, Matthew quotes Jesus in saying " pray that your flight will not be in winter or on the Sabbath"
Mark says only " pray that your flight will not be in winter". Why? because Matthew was written primarily to Jews, while Mark was written primarily to gentiles, who never had the law. "
Mark 13:3 says that the Messiah was speaking to Peter, James, John and Andrew. Are you saying that Mark considered them to be gentiles and so deliberately left the Messiah's "...or on the Sabbath" statement out of his reporting of what the Messiah said?
re: "in the Olivent discourse, Matthew quotes Jesus in saying " pray that your flight will not be in winter or on the Sabbath"
Mark says only " pray that your flight will not be in winter". Why? because Matthew was written primarily to Jews, while Mark was written primarily to gentiles, who never had the law. "
Mark 13:3 says that the Messiah was speaking to Peter, James, John and Andrew. Are you saying that Mark considered them to be gentiles and so deliberately left the Messiah's "...or on the Sabbath" statement out of his reporting of what the Messiah said?
I was once approached by a customer on my mail route who attends the world wide church of God (Armstrongism) and he strongly advised me to tell my employer that I can't work on Saturday because it's the Sabbath day and he even implied that if I continue to work on Saturday that my salvation will be in jeopardy. 
I was once approached by a customer on my mail route who attends the world wide church of God (Armstrongism) and he strongly advised me to tell my employer that I can't work on Saturday because it's the Sabbath day and he even implied that if I continue to work on Saturday that my salvation will be in jeopardy.
I guess it's all about perspective. :^)
I was once approached by a customer on my mail route who attends the world wide church of God (Armstrongism) and he strongly advised me to tell my employer that I can't work on Saturday because it's the Sabbath day and he even implied that if I continue to work on Saturday that my salvation will be in jeopardy.
Romans 14:[FONT="]5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.[/FONT]
louis,
re: "I guess that person considered the Sabbath/Saturday holy; but even if you don't that's OK too, providing you believe it to be (Romans 14:5-6)"
Romans 14 says nothing about the Sabbath. The subject of the chapter from start to finish has to do with what people eat. Paul is writing about asceticism. Some in the church at Rome believed Christians should eat only vegetables. Paul calls these people “weak in the faith” (verses 1-2). The stronger in faith know they could also eat meat. Nothing in God’s law prescribes vegetarianism. The stronger in faith knew they were free from non-biblical asceticism. A part of the controversy that had sprung up between the weak and the strong Christians was the esteeming of days. In Rome some people had the pagan idea that on certain days certain foods should or should not be eaten. In this whole chapter Paul was just showing that others should not be offended, particularly weak members who have not yet learned the truth about the proper Christian diet and that they should not be judged by the stronger in the faith. Again, this passage has nothing to do with the Sabbath.
re: "I guess that person considered the Sabbath/Saturday holy; but even if you don't that's OK too, providing you believe it to be (Romans 14:5-6)"
Romans 14 says nothing about the Sabbath. The subject of the chapter from start to finish has to do with what people eat. Paul is writing about asceticism. Some in the church at Rome believed Christians should eat only vegetables. Paul calls these people “weak in the faith” (verses 1-2). The stronger in faith know they could also eat meat. Nothing in God’s law prescribes vegetarianism. The stronger in faith knew they were free from non-biblical asceticism. A part of the controversy that had sprung up between the weak and the strong Christians was the esteeming of days. In Rome some people had the pagan idea that on certain days certain foods should or should not be eaten. In this whole chapter Paul was just showing that others should not be offended, particularly weak members who have not yet learned the truth about the proper Christian diet and that they should not be judged by the stronger in the faith. Again, this passage has nothing to do with the Sabbath.
the facts are that Americans generally work 5 days out of 7, rest on the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] and congregate to worship on the 1[SUP]st[/SUP].
& no one is 'forced'
but yeah, if a person has a preconception inclined to judgement & condemnation, as opposed to trust, their 'perspective' certainly taints everything they see, even to the point that they are willing to replace the truth with a lie when the truth is in plain view.
& no one is 'forced'
but yeah, if a person has a preconception inclined to judgement & condemnation, as opposed to trust, their 'perspective' certainly taints everything they see, even to the point that they are willing to replace the truth with a lie when the truth is in plain view.
This Sbbath for Jews/Israel only thing is not Scriptually true.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it, and guarding his hand from doing any evil. And let not the son of the gentile who has joined himself to [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]speak, saying, ‘[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has certainly separated me from His people,’ nor let the eunuch say, ‘Look I am a dry tree.’ For thus said [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “To the eunuchs who guard My Sabbaths, and have chosen what pleases Me, and are holding onto My covenant: to them I shall give in My house and within My walls a place and a name better than that of sons and daughters – I give them an everlasting name that is not cut off. Also the sons of the gentile who join themselves to [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to serve Him, and to love the Name of [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to be His servants, all who guard the Sabbath, and not profane it, and are holding onto My covenant, them I shall bring to My set-apart mountain, and let them rejoice in My house of prayer. Their ascending offerings and their sacrifices are accepted on My altar, for My house is called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is YHWH our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 56:1-7, “Thus said יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “Guard right-ruling, and do righteousness, for near is My deliverance to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who becomes strong in it, guarding the Sabbath lest he profane it, and guarding his hand from doing any evil. And let not the son of the gentile who has joined himself to [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]speak, saying, ‘[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]has certainly separated me from His people,’ nor let the eunuch say, ‘Look I am a dry tree.’ For thus said [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif], “To the eunuchs who guard My Sabbaths, and have chosen what pleases Me, and are holding onto My covenant: to them I shall give in My house and within My walls a place and a name better than that of sons and daughters – I give them an everlasting name that is not cut off. Also the sons of the gentile who join themselves to [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to serve Him, and to love the Name of [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], to be His servants, all who guard the Sabbath, and not profane it, and are holding onto My covenant, them I shall bring to My set-apart mountain, and let them rejoice in My house of prayer. Their ascending offerings and their sacrifices are accepted on My altar, for My house is called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Israyl who belongs to Israyl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 105:6-9, "O seed of Abraham His servant, You children of Yaaqob, His chosen ones! He is YHWH our Father! His judgments are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, the Law He commanded for a thousand generations; Which He made; ratified, established, with Abraham, and vowed by His oath to Isaac. He confirmed it; let it stand, to Yaaqob for a Law, and to Israyl for an everlasting covenant."[/FONT]
Times and laws have been changed. But no one speaks any words against God.
Luke 9:35 [FONT="]And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
[/FONT]Matthew 5:21-22
[FONT="]21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:[/FONT]
[FONT="]22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:27-28
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[FONT="]27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:[/FONT]
[FONT="]28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Hebrews 7:18-19
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[FONT="]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.[/FONT]
Luke 9:35 [FONT="]And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
[/FONT]Matthew 5:21-22
[FONT="]21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:[/FONT]
[FONT="]22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:27-28
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[FONT="]27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:[/FONT]
[FONT="]28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Hebrews 7:18-19
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[FONT="]18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.[/FONT]
[FONT="]19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.[/FONT]
no you dont read closely enouigh:
" in danger of hell fire."
"hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
why? because : "when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin. And sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death"
Matthew 5:27-32, “You heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery. But I say to you that everyone looking at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. And if your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for your entire body to be thrown into GĕHinnom. And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you. For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for your entire body to be thrown into GĕHinnom. And it has been said, ‘Whoever puts away his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce. But I say to you that whoever puts away his wife, except for the matter of whoring, makes her commit adultery. And whoever marries a woman who has been put away commits adultery.”
James 1:12-18, “Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him. Let no one say when he is enticed, “I am enticed by Yah,” for Yah is not enticed by evil matters, and He entices no one. But each one is enticed when he is drawn away by his own desires and trapped. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin. And sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death. Do not go astray, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of light, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. Having purposed it, He brought us forth by the Word of truth, for us to be a kind of first-fruits of His creatures.”
in hebrews the disannuling of the weak was the Levitical priesthood:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 7:13, “For He of whom this is said belongs to another tribe, from which no one had attended at the Altar. For it is perfectly clear that our Master arose from Yehuḏah, a tribe about which Mosheh never spoke of concerning priesthood.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:14-15, "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest Who has ascended into the heavens: Yahshua the Son of YHWH, let us hold fast our profession. For we do not have a High Priest Who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all ways tempted as we are--yet was without sin."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 9:11-12, "But the Messiah came near as a High Priest over the righteous things to come, with the great and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation; Nor through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once, for all, having obtained eternal redemption."[/FONT]
may the truth of Yah be shouted from the rooftopos and may all His seek Yah's word in sincerity.
" in danger of hell fire."
"hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
why? because : "when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin. And sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death"
Matthew 5:27-32, “You heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery. But I say to you that everyone looking at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. And if your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for your entire body to be thrown into GĕHinnom. And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you. For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for your entire body to be thrown into GĕHinnom. And it has been said, ‘Whoever puts away his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce. But I say to you that whoever puts away his wife, except for the matter of whoring, makes her commit adultery. And whoever marries a woman who has been put away commits adultery.”
James 1:12-18, “Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him. Let no one say when he is enticed, “I am enticed by Yah,” for Yah is not enticed by evil matters, and He entices no one. But each one is enticed when he is drawn away by his own desires and trapped. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin. And sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death. Do not go astray, my beloved brothers. Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of light, with whom there is no change, nor shadow of turning. Having purposed it, He brought us forth by the Word of truth, for us to be a kind of first-fruits of His creatures.”
in hebrews the disannuling of the weak was the Levitical priesthood:
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 7:13, “For He of whom this is said belongs to another tribe, from which no one had attended at the Altar. For it is perfectly clear that our Master arose from Yehuḏah, a tribe about which Mosheh never spoke of concerning priesthood.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 4:14-15, "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest Who has ascended into the heavens: Yahshua the Son of YHWH, let us hold fast our profession. For we do not have a High Priest Who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all ways tempted as we are--yet was without sin."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 9:11-12, "But the Messiah came near as a High Priest over the righteous things to come, with the great and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation; Nor through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once, for all, having obtained eternal redemption."[/FONT]
may the truth of Yah be shouted from the rooftopos and may all His seek Yah's word in sincerity.
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 7:16-17, "Yahshua answered, them, and said: My doctrine is not Mine, but His Who sent Me. If any man will do His will, he will know about this teaching, whether it comes from YHWH, or whether I am speaking of My own authority."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John/Yahanan 7:16-17, "Yahshua answered, them, and said: My doctrine is not Mine, but His Who sent Me. If any man will do His will, he will know about this teaching, whether it comes from YHWH, or whether I am speaking of My own authority."[/FONT]