GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

[LoveGodForever]

Paul quotes Leviticus in verse 9.

there's no evidence in scripture that Paul, any of the apostles, or least of all Christ considered "the Law" to be anything less than all of it. every single line of Leviticus. every single word in Deuteronomy. every single thing the LORD had Moses command. the entire Sinai covenant.

it's purely human teaching and tradition that the Law can be broken apart, some 'categories' abolished and others remaining. there is no scriptural basis to support that.
someone must save you from this body of death!
how?

Welcome back friend. I thought you left. Nice to see you back

Well that post of yours is not true at all. How many commandments are in the 10 commandments? (Ex 34:28; Deut 4:13; 10:4)

Why did God ask Moses to keep the 10 commandments separate from the Book of Moses in the Ark of the Covenant?

It was because one was a shadow and God's LAW made on stone written and made by God are forever.

 

[stillness]

Should we be sorry that we cant help you, while you help us see the danger of being under the law.

 

[Jackson123]

Acts 5
32, And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath GIVES TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM

1 John 2
3, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 3
6, Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8, He that committeth sin is of the devil

Hebrews 10
26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

yes brother keep the commandment and new commandment is love. We not under old law, No animal sacrifice, No death penalty for sabbath violator, No sabbath law in new commandment.

 

[Jackson123]

Anyway there isn't a verse that say under new covenant death penalty is not valid anymore

if you follow sabbath law you must kill violators.

 

[LoveGodForever]

Should we be sorry that we cant help you, while you help us see the danger of being under the law.

One in only "Under the Law" if they have broken it.....

Romans 3
19, Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Romans 2
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law.

If you have KNOWINGLY broken ANY of God's LAWS you are still in your SINS (James 2:8-12)

If you seek God in REPENTACE and FORGIVENESS and BELIEVE and FOLLOW the Word of GOD you are no more UNDER the LAW but FREE to LOVE and FOLLOW him who LOVES you (Acts 2:38; 1 John 2:1; 1 John 1:9; 1 john 3:6:8)

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

 

[posthuman]

and the violators must be kill by human authority.

that is what God's Law says, yes.

it does not come from Moses; it comes from YHWH:

Then the LORD said to Moses,
“The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.”
(Numbers 15:35)
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however you have met some humans teaching their tradition that you can abolish God's Law piece by piece and only keep the parts you want to use to judge others with.



good news for us is the gospel. by believing, anyone who is immersed into Christ is immersed into His death, and anyone who has died is no longer under the Law.
the humans here giving you their tradition, trying to enslave you, don't like to talk about the cross. but it is the only way to become free.

 

[posthuman]

Anyway there isn't a verse that say under new covenant death penalty is not valid anymore

if you follow sabbath law you must kill violators.

yes. this is why Christ died, and why we must be joined with Him in His death in order to become free - so that we may also live with Him

 

[stillness]

Think of it, what your preaching and what Jesus spoke is not the same. He did not come for the righteous but for sinners, why did he say that when there was none righteous, if it wasn't that he knew that the religious achievers would not hear Him because of pride of achievement. He came to save sinners that the law condemned. The law of sin and death had to be abolished. Do you even know that you have died, that you cant Love as God Loves apart from the Holy Spirit, that without Love I am nothing. Tel me how could nothing keep the law now. But don't be concerned to answer I am not looking for a response. I'm not the one that can help.

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away." [/FONT]

 

[LoveGodForever]

that is what God's Law says, yes.

it does not come from Moses; it comes from YHWH:

Then the LORD said to Moses,
“The man must surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.”
(Numbers 15:35)


however you have met some humans teaching their tradition that you can abolish God's Law piece by piece and only keep the parts you want to use to judge others with.

good news for us is the gospel. by believing, anyone who is immersed into Christ is immersed into His death, and anyone who has died is no longer under the Law.
the humans here giving you their tradition, trying to enslave you, don't like to talk about the cross. but it is the only way to become free.

How can you know the NEW COVENANT if you do not KNOW the OLD COVENANT? The Old leads to the NEW. If you do not KNOW the NEW how can you KNOW him who LOVES you?

Now you are talking about the CIVIL laws of Israel before the CROSS.... What you have not shared however under the CIVIL laws of Israel if anyone was caught openly SINNING against GOD then were OPENLY put to death... Here are the scriptures for breaking the other commandments you left out of your post for those interested...

Death Penalty under the Civil laws of Israel in the OC
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[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Commandment[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]

[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]SIN[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]REFERENCE[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]First[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Serviing other Gods[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Deut 13:6-18; 1Sam 26:19[/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Second[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Idolatary[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Deut 13:1-10; 17:2-5; 27:15; Deut 7:25-26[/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Third[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Using God's name in Vain[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Lev 24:10-17 [/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Fourth[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Breaking Sabbath[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Exodus 31:14-15; 35:2[/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Fifth[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Dishonor Parents[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Lev 20:9; Deut 21:18-21; Ex 21:17[/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Sixth[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Murder[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Ex 21:12-14[/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Seventh[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Adultery[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Lev 20; John 8:5[/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Eighth[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Stealing (kidnapping)[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Ex 21:16[/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Ninth[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Lying[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Deuteronomy 19:15-21[/FONT]

[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Tenth[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]Coveting[/FONT]
[/TD]
[TD] [FONT=&quot]none[/FONT]
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

We are in the New Covenant now do you know what it is? What do you think is the OC and what is the NEW Covenant and how has it changed?

Is someone in a saved state before God if they are living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN or are they in an UNSAVED state?

You seem to have your laws mixed up

...................................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

 

[posthuman]

Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

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[LoveGodForever]

yes. this is why Christ died, and why we must be joined with Him in His death in order to become free - so that we may also live with Him

You have not died with Christ if you are still in your SINS. If you stay in your sins you will die because if you are still in your SINS you have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son and do not KNOW him (Hebrews 10:26-27; 1 John 3:6-8) and need to seek him while he may be found (Isaiah 55:6-7) and is why today if we hear his Voice (the Word) we need to Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

Tommorrow may be too late.

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In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

 

[stillness]

I'm getting the impression that the flaming sword that turned every way to protect the way of tree of life is the law. to keep those under pride of achievement from entering.

 

[Hizikyah]

Mat 5:18, "I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh; the smallest of the letters will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1, "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away."

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 24:44-46, “And He said to them, “These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all have to be fulfilled that were written in the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it has been written, and so it was necessary for the Messiah to suffer and to rise again from the dead the third day.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 45:21-22, “Declare and bring near, let them even take counsel together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has declared it from that time? Is it not I, [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]? And there is no mighty one besides Me, a righteous Power and Savior, there is none besides Me. Turn to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am Strength, and there is none else.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isaiah 46:10, “Declaring the end from the beginning, and from of old that which has not yet been done, saying, ‘My counsel does stand, and all My delight I do.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]There are 2 "it is done" statements...

Fulfilled already
John 19:30, “So when [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]took the sour wine He said, “It is done!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”

Fulfilled already- To be fulfilled in the future

1. Passover/First-fruits – Yahshua's Sacrifice(Passover), burial and resurrection (First Fruits – presenting Himself to YHWH)
2. Feast of Unleavened Bread – Removal of sin by Yahshua's perfect work as the Passover Sacrifice
3. Feast of Weeks – The blessing Holy Spirit of YHWH, coming into our lives stronger than ever
4. Feast of Trumpets – Yahshua's return and gathering of the Saints
5. Day of Atonement – Yahshua leads the army of YHWH to destroy evil rulers of this world and satan is chained for 1,000 years
6. Feast of Tabernacles – Yahshua dwells on earth for 1,000 years teaching truth and righteousness
7. The Last Great Day – satan is loosed and swiftly destroyed, the Kingdom of YHWH reigns forever

To be fulfilled in the future
Revelation 21:4-8, “And Yah shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away. And He who was sitting on the throne said, “See, I make all matters new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and trustworthy. And He said to me, “It is done! I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I shall give of the fountain of the water of life without payment. The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Strength and he shall be My son. But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”[/FONT]

 

[Hizikyah]

How can you know the NEW COVENANT if you do not KNOW the OLD COVENANT? The Old leads to the NEW. If you do not KNOW the NEW how can you KNOW him who LOVES you?

Now you are talking about the CIVIL laws of Israel before the CROSS.... What you have not shared however under the CIVIL laws of Israel if anyone was caught openly SINNING against GOD then were OPENLY put to death... Here are the scriptures for breaking the other commandments you left out of your post for those interested...

Death Penalty under the Civil laws of Israel in the OC
[TABLE="class: grid, width: 375"]
[TR]
[TD] Commandment[/TD]
[TD] SIN[/TD]
[TD] REFERENCE[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] First[/TD]
[TD] Serviing other Gods[/TD]
[TD] Deut 13:6-18; 1Sam 26:19[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Second[/TD]
[TD] Idolatary[/TD]
[TD] Deut 13:1-10; 17:2-5; 27:15; Deut 7:25-26[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Third[/TD]
[TD] Using God's name in Vain[/TD]
[TD] Lev 24:10-17 [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Fourth[/TD]
[TD] Breaking Sabbath[/TD]
[TD] Exodus 31:14-15; 35:2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Fifth[/TD]
[TD] Dishonor Parents[/TD]
[TD] Lev 20:9; Deut 21:18-21; Ex 21:17[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Sixth[/TD]
[TD] Murder[/TD]
[TD] Ex 21:12-14[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Seventh[/TD]
[TD] Adultery[/TD]
[TD] Lev 20; John 8:5[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Eighth[/TD]
[TD] Stealing (kidnapping)[/TD]
[TD] Ex 21:16[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Ninth[/TD]
[TD] Lying[/TD]
[TD] Deuteronomy 19:15-21[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD] Tenth[/TD]
[TD] Coveting[/TD]
[TD] none[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

We are in the New Covenant now do you know what it is? What do you think is the OC and what is the NEW Covenant and how has it changed?

Is someone in a saved state before God if they are living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN or are they in an UNSAVED state?

You seem to have your laws mixed up

...................................

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

The “curse of the Law” is receiving death for sin worthy of death. Yahshua/Jesus took that curse upon Himself for all those in Him.


1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death."


Deuteronomy 21:22-23, “And when a man has committed a sin worthy of death, then he shall be put to death and you shall hang him on a tree. Let his body not remain overnight on the tree, for you shall certainly bury him the same day – for he who is hanged is accursed of Yah – so that you do not defile the land which יהוה your Strength is giving you as an inheritance.”


Galatians 3:10-14, “10, "For as many as are of works of Torah are under the curse, for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all that has been written in the Book of the Torah, to do them.” (Deut 27:26) 11, "And that no one is declared right by Torah before YHWH is clear, for “The righteous shall live by belief. (Hab 2:4)” 12, "And the Torah is not of belief, but “The man who does them shall live by them, (Leviticus 18:5)” 13, "Messiah redeemed us from the curse of the Torah, having become a curse for us – for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs upon a tree.” – (Deut 21:23) 14, "in order that the blessing of Aḇraham might come upon the nations in Messiah יהושע, to receive the promise of the Spirit through belief."


Galatians 3:13,(KJV) "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law (death), being made a curse for us, for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangeth on a tree."


1 Peter 2:24, "who Himself bore our sins in His body on the timber, so that we, having died to sins, might live unto righteousness, by whose stripes you were healed.”


Isaiah 53:4-5, “Truly, He has borne our sicknesses and carried our pains. Yet we reckoned Him smitten·, stricken by YHWH, and afflicted. But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our crookedness. The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.”

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalm 119:11, “I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:1-2, "My little children, I write these things to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father: Yahshua Messiah, the Righteous; and He is the sacrifice of atonement for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."[/FONT]

 

[LoveGodForever]

I'm getting the impression that the flaming sword that turned every way to protect the way of tree of life is the law.

Not really God's Law is the knowledge of Good and Evil. It is the standard of SIN and Righteousness that leads us to the Jesus who bids us come walk on water... The one leads to the other. You cannot know the Saviour if you do not know your a sinner.

 

[LoveGodForever]

The “curse of the Law” is receiving death for sin worthy of death. Yahshua/Jesus took that curse upon Himself for all those in Him.


1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death."


Deuteronomy 21:22-23, “And when a man has committed a sin worthy of death, then he shall be put to death and you shall hang him on a tree. Let his body not remain overnight on the tree, for you shall certainly bury him the same day – for he who is hanged is accursed of Yah – so that you do not defile the land which יהוה your Strength is giving you as an inheritance.”

Galatians 3:10-14, “10, "For as many as are of works of Torah are under the curse, for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all that has been written in the Book of the Torah, to do them.” (Deut 27:26) 11, "And that no one is declared right by Torah before YHWH is clear, for “The righteous shall live by belief. (Hab 2:4)” 12, "And the Torah is not of belief, but “The man who does them shall live by them, (Leviticus 18:5)” 13, "Messiah redeemed us from the curse of the Torah, having become a curse for us – for it has been written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs upon a tree.” – (Deut 21:23) 14, "in order that the blessing of Aḇraham might come upon the nations in Messiah יהושע, to receive the promise of the Spirit through belief."

Galatians 3:13,(KJV) "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law (death), being made a curse for us, for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangeth on a tree."

1 Peter 2:24, "who Himself bore our sins in His body on the timber, so that we, having died to sins, might live unto righteousness, by whose stripes you were healed.”

Isaiah 53:4-5, “Truly, He has borne our sicknesses and carried our pains. Yet we reckoned Him smitten·, stricken by YHWH, and afflicted. But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our crookedness. The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.”

Psalm 119:11, “I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.”

1 John 1:8-10, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His Word is not in us."

1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

1 John 2:1-2, "My little children, I write these things to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father: Yahshua Messiah, the Righteous; and He is the sacrifice of atonement for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

Yep nice post Hiz there was a reason God asked Moses to keep the 10 commandments separated from the law of Moses in the Ark of the covenant.

 

[stillness]

Not really God's Law is the knowledge of Good and Evil. It is the standard of SIN and Righteousness that leads us to the Jesus who bids us come walk on water... The one leads to the other. You cannot know the Saviour if you do not know your a sinner.

We have knowledge of Good and evil in the mind of the flesh: To be carnally minded is death. The mind of the flesh was created from nothing and why living selfishly for ourselves we die: without love I am nothing. The fruit of it is rebellion: witchcraft and stubbornness: idolatry.
Galatians 5:18

 

[LoveGodForever]

We have knowledge of Good and evil in the mind of the flesh, The mind of the flesh was created from nothing and why living selfishly for ourselves we die: without love I am nothing. The fruit of it is rebellion: witchcraft and stubbornness: idolatry.
Galatians 5:18

Good question stillness. We do not have knowledge of good and evil without God's LAW (Romans 3:20; 7:7: James 2:11; 1 John 3:4). The word flesh means a CARNAL or sinful mind in the GREEK (Romans 8:1-14) and if you live in the flesh (sinful mind) you will die. This is what Jesus talks about when he say that even if we are angry or look on a women to lust we have already broken God's LAW, these are the things which defile a man and is why he says Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven.

 

[stillness]

Good question stillness. We do not have knowledge of good and evil without God's LAW (Romans 3:20; 7:7: James 2:11; 1 John 3:4). The word flesh means a CARNAL or sinful mind in the GREEK (Romans 8:1-14) and if you live in the flesh (sinful mind) you will die. This is what Jesus talks about when he say that even if we are angry or look on a women to lust we have already broken God's LAW, these are the things which defile a man and is why he says Truly, truly I say unto you unless a man is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven.

Galatians 5:18 "Those that are led by the Spirit ("Born of the Spirit") are not under the Law."
When we are led by the spirit, we "Fight the good fight of Faith," ("Wars are appointed until the end"). We are to put away our divided Spirit, to have the mind of Christ. "A double minded man is unstable in all His ways." About losing our life in this world to have life in God. Having lost my life: "No longer I that lives but Christ." how could I be under the Law when led by the Spirit. "Those that are led by the Spirit ("Born of the Spirit") are not under the Law."
This is what I came to see: The new Commandment fulfils the Law, it's the Love of God in us by the Holy Spirit, and apart from Him I'm nothing. Forever dependant on the Holy Spirit for our life and it's why He is given to us for ever: we have no achievement of our own under law: Forever prisoner of the Lord, not having a life of our own in obedience to the old covenant. To late for that anyway, its annulled: "No fruit grow on you, from now on for ever."
We died under the Law, there are people in your church who believe this as well.
You helped me see that the Law had to be abolished." We are in hope of Resurrection. "Having entered into rest." "So that the requirements of the Law are fulfilled in us who believe." In "A new commandment I give to you, that you Love one another; as I have Loved you, that you also Love one another." "All manner of sin shall be forgiven to man but rejecting the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven to man."