GOD'S SABBATH AND THE REAL TRUTH OF COL 2:14-17 WHO DO WE BELIEVE GOD or MAN?

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gb9

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Revelation chapter 1 - John " I was in the Sprit on the Lord's day....."

not Sabbath, John was a jewish man, he knew all about the Sabbath, and would have said that if he intended to.

some of ya'll might want to read the New Testament sometime. if, you know, you are interested in Christian theology. not jewish theology.
 

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YOU shouting ;sunday is the lords day' does not make it so....where is scripture to support it ?

I'll give you scripture 'the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath !!!
If you knew the Bible you would know that only God is the Lord of the Sabbath. The scripture you give tells us Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. Therefore, Jesus is ALMIGHTY GOD.

Thank you for that.
 

PS

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Hello PS,

I guess you do not know the scriptures. They are on the topic

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There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)


God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)
Why do you change the subject LGF?
 
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Revelation chapter 1 - John " I was in the Sprit on the Lord's day....."

not Sabbath, John was a jewish man, he knew all about the Sabbath, and would have said that if he intended to.

some of ya'll might want to read the New Testament sometime. if, you know, you are interested in Christian theology. not jewish theology.
Hello gb9 where does it say in the scriptures that "the Lord's Day" is Sunday?
 

gb9

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For your information...Yashua was ALREADY RISEN on sunday...He was no longer there at the tomb....

THAT is scripture !

you should read your Bible !!!
days start at midnight. the women did not get to the tomb until early in the morning. you are splitting hairs now. and still wrong about Sabbath for Christ followers.
 
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I and others have answered you many, many times- gentiles were never under the law of Moses. Sabbath was not commanded in the N.T.

so, you can't admit that Christ rose on sunday. Christ's resurrection is the center of Christanity. heck, you might not even believe in the resurrection for all we know.

so, in my opinion, you are not a Christian. you care nothing about the basics of the Christian faith, only about the jewish Sabbath.
Hello gb9 well that is simply not true at all. You and your friend have not answered my questions at all. Should I re-post the questions you have not answered? I can find many of them if you like?

If you are not a part of God's Israel you are not a part of the NEW Covenant and are still in your SINS. Those practicing SIN have not part in the Kingdom of Heaven

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There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)


God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)
 

PS

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If you are not a part of God's Israel you are not a part of the NEW Covenant and are still in your SINS. Those practicing SIN have not part in the Kingdom of Heaven
It is a sad truth that many who practise Saturday worship will have no place in the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
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It is a sad truth that many who practise Saturday worship will have no place in the Kingdom of Heaven.
It has always been about who has the heart and who BELIEVES and FOLLOWS Him who LOVES them.

Sin will keep all who practice it out of God's Kingdom. Do you know the scriptures?

Only those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW him are HIS people and is why he says; If you LOVE me keep my commandments.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)


In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps..
 

PS

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It has always been about who has the heart and who BELIEVES and FOLLOWS Him who LOVES them.

Sin will keep all who practice is out of God's Kingdom. Do you know the scriptures?

Only those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW him are HIS people and is why he says; If you LOVE me keep my commandments./QUOTE]

Precisely. NOT the day of the week. Thank you.
 
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LoveGodForever said It has always been about who has the heart and who BELIEVES and FOLLOWS Him who LOVES them.

Sin will keep all who practice is out of God's Kingdom. Do you know the scriptures?

Only those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW him are HIS people and is why he says; If you LOVE me keep my commandments.
Precisely. NOT the day of the week. Thank you.
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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)


In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps..
 

PS

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.....................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

There is not one scripture in ALL of God's WORD that says God's 4th commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to worship God on Sunday in it's place.

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)


In times of ignorance God winks at but now calls all men every where to REPENT for the KINGDOM of HEAVEN is at HAND (Acts 17:30-31)

Hope this helps..
No problem keeping the 4th commandment. All you need do is tell me what year according the the Jewish calender the heavens and the earth were created.
 

PS

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I'm waiting for your answer LGF.
 

gb9

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i'm still waiting on the answer to if he believes in the Resurrection. maybe we should ask him what he had for lunch yesterday?
but, he would find a way to tie Sabbath to that.

if only some would trust Jesus with the same zeal that they trust a day........
 

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No problem keeping the 4th commandment. All you need do is tell me what year according the the Jewish calender the heavens and the earth were created.
It doesn't matter what year God created His Earth, or His Sabbath for man. What matters is what you do when you hear Him.

Psalms. 95:6 O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker.

7 For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,
8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
 

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i'm still waiting on the answer to if he believes in the Resurrection. maybe we should ask him what he had for lunch yesterday?
but, he would find a way to tie Sabbath to that.

if only some would trust Jesus with the same zeal that they trust a day........
I wish that also, but sad to say many do not......
 

PS

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It doesn't matter what year God created His Earth, or His Sabbath for man. What matters is what you do when you hear Him.

Psalms. 95:6 O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker.

7 For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,
8Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
Green: It matters with regard to the seventh day, which unfortunately takes us away from Psalm 95 and what it encourages us to do.

Personally I believe such diversions are a tool of the devil in order to take away from encouraging one another in the faith which is what we should be doing. This is why I would love to see an end to this and similar unhelpful topics.
 

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days start at midnight. the women did not get to the tomb until early in the morning. you are splitting hairs now. and still wrong about Sabbath for Christ followers.
why don't you tell GOD that HE has it wrong ?