Are there any Moderators here at this site?

Speak2Me · Dec 25, 2017

Since this thread is about mods, why is it that all general mods aren't given authority over both chat and forums?

Why not both?

Don't the same rules apply to both? It's all Christian Chat, right?

Not trying to gripe, but wouldn't it be proper for the rules of the site be enforced equally in both the forums and the chat rooms?

Wouldn't members stay if they were assured the rules would be enforced equally in the forums?

New International Version
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

English Standard Version
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

New American Standard Bible
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Since Jesus Christ remains the same in everything, shouldn't Christian Chat?

maxwel · Dec 25, 2017

I think Oncefallen is the most righteous moderator in the entire history of the internet, and his wisdom rains down upon this place like the righteous showers of heaven upon the plains of Jordan.

And I'm not just saying that to make up for all my past sins.

It's really more like a hedge against my future sins... like buying an indulgence.

It probably won't work... but it IS part of my risk management protocol.

oldethennew · Dec 25, 2017

RickyZ said:

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it's allowed, Ricky, and you know why; because if ONLY ONE SEED takes ROOT',,,ETC..,

joefizz · Dec 25, 2017

Speak2Me said:

Well to be honest and clear,the Christian Chat room and The Christian Chat forums are "Dramatically different" because...
In Chat depending upon your choice of Chat you can see,hear,or only hear a person,and so there is more "hurt" possibly inflicted to others and therefore is more constantly to be monitored because "words on a screen" aren't as necessarily "hurtful to others" because you can simply switch to a different thread in forums if someone is ranting about an individual or put them on ignore.
Also naturally with "visual" conversations it's more likely for someone to "try something offensive or plain stupid" such as exposure of some kind to others like suggestive items or influences,or open indecency.
To do as you put it "equally enforce" on both parts of the site as if they are "equal" would be to "overwhelm" not only mods but members and guests,because this would mean that every rule would have to be followed equally in strictness,and would dramatically decline members and guests,because this would mean that you wouldn't be able to "joke" in any forum without having someone rail on an individual for doing so and someone getting banned as a result.
Or likewise anyone struggling with addiction posting here wouldn't be able to ask for fellowship because many wouldn't be able to state an addiction such as being an alcoholic or drug addict,because someone could label it as inappropriate and send them packing for stating just the words.
That's where "discernment" is used,a person saying alcohol on a screen is hardly "equal" to someone "drinking alcohol and encouraging it on a face to face screen" and also it's kind of like telling everyone "you can't post anything dumb" in the forums whether intentionally or unintentionally,like say while not thinking and just mad saying...
"I hate everyone", now such a simple statement could be "acted upon swiftly" and it be assumed as an "offensive remark" and the person be banned due to people not liking the statement,or it can be viewed instead as a "cry for help" or "Irrational statement" and "given time" to find out what said individual's intentions are,where as stating such a statement would be more likely to be "offensive" in the chat room environment,because the person could be more "agitating" and "hurtful" to members than in the forums.
There is quite a "gap" between the two concerning "enforcement" because they "aren't equal" like it or not both have to be managed "differently and separately" because both are "different environments" as far as "what can be ban worthy" because communicating to a multitude verbally,visually,or both,is more of a pending problem than people posting some words or images that may or may not be seen by anyone because "words and posts can be deleted" in typed posts but "things seen or said in a chat room" can't be forgotten from someone's mind as easily.

RickyZ · Dec 26, 2017

Depleted said:

Once again your assumptions are not at all based in truth but on conjecture. I've put you on ignore before because you assume things on little to no known facts. I'd put you on ignore again, but I think the smarter idea is just to say adios to this assembly for good. Let me know if truth, facts, and the occasional admission of "gee I just don't know" ever appear here. In the meantime, enjoy your carnage free-for-all!

heartofdavid · Dec 26, 2017

RickyZ said:

no,don't do that,just put her on ignore.

The Lord may use you here to minister to someone.

Tommy379 · Dec 26, 2017

RickyZ said:

You did state, in post#25, the Burbank police sit on their butt and do nothing.

Depleted · Dec 26, 2017

RickyZ said:

Once again your assumptions are not at all based in truth but on conjecture. I've put you on ignore before because you assume things on little to no known facts. I'd put you on ignore again, but I think the smarter idea is just to say adios to this assembly for good. Let me know if truth, facts, and the occasional admission of "gee I just don't know" ever appear here. In the meantime, enjoy your carnage free-for-all!

And there goes another stop sign zooming by in your rear-view mirror.

Depleted · Dec 26, 2017

Speak2Me said:

Jesus is the same yesterday and today and forever. Christian Chat is not Jesus. Christian Chat was a brilliant idea by a guy to have a place where Christians can congregate. It's a business. And we all assume about what we'd expect from a Christian business -- Serve the Lord. Make money.

I really don't "chat," so I know nothing about how it works. BUT, isn't that kind of like going into a Christian bakery and complaining the pies don't look like or taste like the cake? And then complaining that it's not the same like the Lord?

First, they're not supposed to, that's why they're different products made in the same business.

Second, they're products. Not the Lord.

This is RobOp's bakery. I really do make suggestions on how to improve. I do get he doesn't take in many suggestions even though he has a suggestion section. But he has something in him that we do not have in us. He knows what he wants from this site. And it's his site.

I don't know about his pies, but like his cakes. I can think of stuff that would improve his cakes too. But ultimately, if I want the cakes just like I want the cakes, I can either go look for exactly what I want or make my own. (Have done the first. Waaayyyy too lazy and anti-techy to do the second. lol)

Shouldn't there be some respect for the bakers when we choose to stay with their products?

I absolutely love that Once, and RobOp, sometimes come to join in our conversations about the site, but I also think we need to be respectful when asking questions, or even when complaining. After all, we always have the option to leave. But this is their baby.

Their baby. Not their jesus.

lightbearer · Dec 26, 2017

Inquistor said:

What about the whip He made with which He drove them all out?

How about when He casts all whose names are not found written in the Book of Life into the Lake of Fire? Is He going to be loving then?

Are we Jesus?

Prov910 · Dec 26, 2017

Inquistor said:

lightbearer said:

^^Agreed. We are not Jesus. Jesus could judge others. We can't. LINK

—Or at least we're not *supposed* to judge others. But that's often what is happening when CC members call each other heretics and blasphemers over matters of interpretation—especially in matters that are peripheral to the gospel message.

Speak2Me · Dec 26, 2017

Prov910 said:

1Cor 5:12For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church[SUP]b[/SUP] whom you are to judge? 13God judges[SUP]c[/SUP] those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

1Cor 6:1When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church?5I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, 6but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers?

Ugly · Dec 26, 2017

Speak2Me said:

The chats were ran the same. Problem is there was the same problem there as the forums. Mods aren't on 24/7.

Also chats and forums function differently. What's best for one may not be ideal for another.

Not to mention options available. The forums are built on v-bulletein. So Robo has to work with and within the restrictions of that program.

And, really, comparing Jesus to a chat room? Twist scripture much? That has to be one of the biggest stretches to use scripture I've ever seen.

Prov910 · Dec 28, 2017

Speak2Me said:

1Cor 5:12For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church[SUP]b[/SUP] whom you are to judge? 13God judges[SUP]c[/SUP] those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

1Cor 6:1When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church?5I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, 6but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers?

If you're trying to quote scripture that supports us judging others, you're headed down the wrong path.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. (Matt 7:1)

Magenta · Dec 28, 2017

Prov910 said:

"Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly." John 7:24

Prov910 · Dec 28, 2017

Are you saying that, based on that verse, you think it's okay to judge others so long as you judge correctly?

NoNameMcgee · Dec 28, 2017

Prov910 said:

if i were to say i believe magenta is a sister in Christ...
(which i do)

that is judging someone
and probably correctly

if i were to say someone who came in here posting profane things and started conflict and denied God mockingly was a troll...

i probably judged correctly

NoNameMcgee · Dec 28, 2017

but i think judging correctly
has a lot to do with being silent until things are kind of made known

and there is a difference between judging someone accordingly

and condemning someone

NoNameMcgee · Dec 28, 2017

to see a brother or sister in Christ in error
and judge them in some kind of way that puts them below you

not seeing that you need Gods forgiveness just as much as him/her is different

than being able to see the difference between a wolf and a sheep

wouldnt you agree prov?

Prov910 · Dec 28, 2017

NoNameMcgee said:

Sort of. For example, I often listen to a Seventh Day Advent radio station at work. I don't happen to believe that consuming alcohol is a sin (drunkenness is a different matter). If I understand SDA doctrines, they apparently think it's a sin to drink alcohol. I can imagine an SDA person telling someone else that that glass of beer they're drinking is a sin. (Imaginary situation.) Rather than judging someone over a matter of interpretation, I think the better course of action would be to tell the beer drinker that, according to our interpretation, we believe drinking that glass of beer is a sin. (fyi, SDA's have created a whole rationalization about Jesus turning the water into grapejuice at the wedding feast. lol)

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As for the verse quoted in post #55, I would be surprised that it's being implied that it's okay to judge another so long as you judge correctly. I'm not sure that's the implication of that post. That's why I asked about it.

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