Partakers of the Holy Ghost
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Haa-haa. You're so far out in left field you fell over the fence. Show me the scriptures & redeem yourself, if you can.
God gave every man the measure of faith, so faith was a gift given to all mankind that we could repent & believe in Christ. God gave it, but we had to use it. So repentance & believing are man's actions, thus works.
Commitment to God is a lifelong process, thus good fruit.
God didn't say the trinity is true either, but it is.
God gave every man the measure of faith, so faith was a gift given to all mankind that we could repent & believe in Christ. God gave it, but we had to use it. So repentance & believing are man's actions, thus works.
Commitment to God is a lifelong process, thus good fruit.
God didn't say the trinity is true either, but it is.
If we are the branch, and Jesus is the vine, and fruit is what is produced. What else could it be? How does me doing something for SELF resemble fruit? Fruit does not benefit the vine, it benefits those who partake from the vine,
It is a picture of God working through us to serve others..
The trinity can be proven, Fruit being something which benefits ourself can not.
Wow.
Are you serious right now?
Look it up yourself.
I am simply quoting a different Bible translation that happens to disagree with your Scriptural interpretation.
I actually looked it up in the ESV simply because I found your point of view intriguing.
And you call me deceiving?
I forgive you buddy.
Have a blessed New Year.
Are you serious right now?
Look it up yourself.
I am simply quoting a different Bible translation that happens to disagree with your Scriptural interpretation.
I actually looked it up in the ESV simply because I found your point of view intriguing.
And you call me deceiving?
I forgive you buddy.
Have a blessed New Year.
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The HS was not given to AL people until the day of Pentecost.
Do you not accept that SPIRITUAL TRUTH?
The passage you used, The word within means in their midst. Who did all the miracles when Moses led them out. What’s it not Moses. Was it nbot by the power of the HS. That is what was spoken about.
Most who left Egypt rebelled continually. So much in fact God denied them entry into the promised land.. You think they all had the HS?? Wow
Do you not accept that SPIRITUAL TRUTH?
The passage you used, The word within means in their midst. Who did all the miracles when Moses led them out. What’s it not Moses. Was it nbot by the power of the HS. That is what was spoken about.
Most who left Egypt rebelled continually. So much in fact God denied them entry into the promised land.. You think they all had the HS?? Wow
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Ok, so if that's incorrect, how does a sinner end up with faith to believe?
Don't leave me hanging with a "that's wrong", tell me where scripture says sinners have faith before they're saved, 'cause we couldn't possibly get saved without faith in the first place.
Thank you in advance.
Don't leave me hanging with a "that's wrong", tell me where scripture says sinners have faith before they're saved, 'cause we couldn't possibly get saved without faith in the first place.
Thank you in advance.
I'm not 100 percent sure either, except for the vision I received when I was younger of a face, among others, whom of which wore a conspicuous Hebrew crown. Even more conspicuous was the toothy smile on his face...and I did wonder at whether that is Saul that I saw... and if right, I now realize why the huge smile!
Thanks, I will.
I could repent & commit myself to Christ because God gave me the faith to do so. God gave me the faith to do so through His Grace. That's how I'm saved by grace through faith, and not all by myself, it's a gift from God.
Good fruit is NEVER just for self, & I never said it was.
Good fruit is what God expects.
John 15:1“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2“Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. 3“You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4“Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. 5“I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.
7“If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8“My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples.
Matt 5:14 “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; 15nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16“Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.
I could repent & commit myself to Christ because God gave me the faith to do so. God gave me the faith to do so through His Grace. That's how I'm saved by grace through faith, and not all by myself, it's a gift from God.
Good fruit is NEVER just for self, & I never said it was.
Good fruit is what God expects.
John 15:1“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2“Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. 3“You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4“Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. 5“I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6“If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.
7“If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8“My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples.
Matt 5:14 “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden; 15nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16“Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.