Partakers of the Holy Ghost

[hardsell]

Stop hiding? Who is hiding here

I am talking about willful sin also.

You seem to be claiming you do not have any willful sin, Because if you have willful sin, according to you. You have fallen away and are lost and headed to hell.

So your sin must be mistakes, booboo’s oopsies.. I made a mistake.

Willfull sin is only a part to the carnal minded man Willfill sin becomes less of an issue the closer to Christ we become. We will still sin and I still sin, but I don't go around justifying that profanity used in church by church leaders is acceptable or justified as you do.

Your belief that using profanity to make points in teaching or preaching is all flesh and all carnal minded willful sin.

 

[hardsell]

from the once saved always saved thread.




if your going to threaten someone, you should make sure you have no incriminating stuff which would go against you.

This is a bible discussion forum, If your going to quote the word of God and discuss it, You better be willing and able to handle when people bring an apposing view.

Again, Your the one who brought up wilfull sin, Your not the first person to do this, and every person who has every brought this up I have asked the same question to. So I am not harassing you, no matter what you think.

If you can not stand up for the belief you are trying to push. And back the verses you are using when you are questioned about them. Then maybe you should not be in a bible DISCUSSION forum.

Then lets discuss what the Bible says about a church leader, teacher, preacher or pastor using profanity behind the pulpit or during a teaching or at any time in his life is being Spirit filled or a carnal mind?

 

[hardsell]

Here is a very righteous, spirit filled, bible proven post that everyone should listen to.

(NOT) it just goes to show their true heart. They are not here to discuss the word. But to judge everyone who disagrees with them, Notice he is the same person who gave a woman a rep for attacking a person who basically asked another person a question to tru to discuss what she was saying.

Calling a self professed Bible teacher into accountability to be who the word describes him to be is not judging him.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Willfull sin is only a part to the carnal minded man Willfill sin becomes less of an issue the closer to Christ we become. We will still sin and I still sin, but I don't go around justifying that profanity used in church by church leaders is acceptable or justified as you do.

Your belief that using profanity to make points in teaching or preaching is all flesh and all carnal minded willful sin.

In other words, your sin does not stink. Mine does.

Whatever dude. You want to be a pharisee, feel free.

As for me, I will serve my lord and depend on him. And if I need to use some words like Jesus did and paul did to make a point. I will

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Then lets discuss what the Bible says about a church leader, teacher, preacher or pastor using profanity behind the pulpit or during a teaching or at any time in his life is being Spirit filled or a carnal mind?

Lol.. you do not want to discuss it, people showed you where words were used in the Bible by Jesus himself and paul. You deny them..

If you wanted to discuss it, you would discuss it, and say yes, they had reasons for saying what they did.

 

[hardsell]

ha ha ha ha?

even the leetle doggies don't buy it

you get a hold of something and just won't let go...personally, I see it as YOUR problem

sorry, but I do

not a hill to die on



touchy much?

no one has attacked you that I can see but there may be some truth to you actually jabbing at quite a few people

whine whine whine (fits in with the cute doggie theme, doncha think? )

and no one has to answer your questions. you are not in charge here and you are not a Bible teacher...this is supposed to be a discussion forum...not the Spanish Inquisition

He claims he is a Bible teacher at his church.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Calling a self professed Bible teacher into accountability to be who the word describes him to be is not judging him.

Lol.. So its ok if they do it, but not ok if we do it? (Although that is not what he was doing, he was attacking)

 

[hardsell]

In other words, your sin does not stink. Mine does.

Whatever dude. You want to be a pharisee, feel free.

As for me, I will serve my lord and depend on him. And if I need to use some words like Jesus did and paul did to make a point. I will

You still do not get it do you?

You cannot make defense for yourself based on the context that Jesus and Paul used those words. Your taking it out of context and making it a proof text. People generally avoid application of the word based on their interpretation of the word and then use that interpretation to justify not applying the Bible truth to their life.

Last time and maybe it might get past the pride, false humility and into your heart.


In other words, any of MY sin is just as stinky as yours, yes sir, stinks just like your sin, no question about it.


The difference between us is that I grew past the need to use profanity around people, my family, on the job, even when I first got right with God and got back into church, I was using it in men's meeting's , church events, etc. I grew past the need to use it because I saw my spiritual elders and accountability partners did not or need to ever use those kinds of words and even in private I never heard them use them at all. I grew convicted out of how awesome they were not using profanity and several showed me how to get over it.

I stopped using profanity or thinking I had to I when I learned to be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, and begin meditating on scripture about the mouth, and tongue.

It took a while, but soon, those words stopped coming out of my mouth and honestly it is rare when one does come out.


As a new creation you are without excuse Bro. The Bible says it as well. This is exactly what that mentor told me one night in a fellowship hall when he grew weary of my potty mouth.

You are double without excuse since you profess to teach and preach the word in ministry.

Now stop the crying and get growing.

 

[ComeLordJesus]

You ought to grow up and be very careful who try to teach on sin.

You stated on the not by works thread, that you use profanity while teaching Bible classes when you cannot think of a nice word to help you make a point. You also stated on that thread that you appreciate a preacher that is on fire and uses profanity behind the pulpit to wake up his audience to a point he is trying to make. You justified further by syaing folks in church love that, not that pastor used a 4 letter word of profanity, but how he used the profanity to help them understand the point he was trying to make. Several back and forth posts showed you absolutely justifying the use of profanity by Church preachers, teachers, pastors and elders.

Now you asked me not to comment anymore to you on this subject and we would have to agree to disagree, right? You said over there I was judging you, but I was merely calling you into accountability as a fellow minister of the Gospel.

I was going to leave you alone on this thread, until I saw your high and mighty blow to this person and your other childish rants about others, so I feel it is my duty to protect people from a self professed Bible teacher and church leader like you, who claims using profanity is perfectly acceptable all because Paul, Isaiah and Jesus used terms like dung, filthy rags, etc.


Now stop trying to tell people about their sins or teach anyone with any kind of authority . You are just another carnal Christian, and the word says a carnal minded person is his enemy, not his teacher.

So your sin must be mistakes, booboo’s oopsies.. I made a mistake.

I was absolutely shocked when eternally grateful tried to turn it around on me when I quoted Number 15: 28-31.

Thanks for standing up to them . Personally I want nothing more to do with them.

 

[Zmouth]

In other words, your sin does not stink. Mine does.

If you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit then do you know whether it was the result of the sop or of the sup?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You still do not get it do you?

You cannot make defense for yourself based on the context that Jesus and Paul used those words. Your taking it out of context and making it a proof text. People generally avoid application of the word based on their interpretation of the word and then use that interpretation to justify not applying the Bible truth to their life.

Last time and maybe it might get past the pride, false humility and into your heart.


In other words, any of MY sin is just as stinky as yours, yes sir, stinks just like your sin, no question about it.


The difference between us is that I grew past the need to use profanity around people, my family, on the job, even when I first got right with God and got back into church, I was using it in men's meeting's , church events, etc. I grew past the need to use it because I saw my spiritual elders and accountability partners did not or need to ever use those kinds of words and even in private I never heard them use them at all. I grew convicted out of how awesome they were not using profanity and several showed me how to get over it.

I stopped using profanity or thinking I had to I when I learned to be strong in the Lord and in the strength of His might. to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, and begin meditating on words about the mouth, and tongue.

It took a while, but soon, those words stopped coming out of my mouth and honestly it is rare when one does come out.


As a new creation you are without excuse Bro. The Bible says it as well. This is exactly what that mentor told me one night in a fellowship hall when he grew weary of my potty mouth.

You are double without excuse since you profess to teach and preach the word in ministry.

Now stop the crying and get growing.

No your the one who does not get it. Expel have reasons for using some words, And you can not say When jesus or paul used those words they had a reason, but other people who MAY use those words in context do not.

Your judging based on things you do not even know.

The sin not stink part was in context of willfull sin, Please do not tell you when you sin, it is not willful. We all know what we are doing when we do it. God is not surprised when we do it, and we should not be surprised when we do things, We should just be humble enough to say sorry God, I knew what I was doing, I knew it was wrong, but I did it anyway, No excuse. Help me next time to be stronger.
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[hardsell]

Lol.. you do not want to discuss it, people showed you where words were used in the Bible by Jesus himself and paul. You deny them..

If you wanted to discuss it, you would discuss it, and say yes, they had reasons for saying what they did.

Stop lying and be a man and not a Shrew. I never denied that Paul and Jesus ever used those words.

I just made it clear to you and the other Self professed Christian leaders that you are not justified using profanity behind the pulpit in a bible teaching or anywhere in life based on those verses because you guys are proof texting the scripture to justify your need to be carnal minded and not filled with the Spirit.

Furthermore, why would Paul use foul language and then teach us not to? your proof text is busted by truth.

I know growing up, spiritually is really very hard and actually means you have to work to be imitate Christ, not rely on some passive sanctification mumbo jumbo grace thingy to work it all out for oyu.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I was absolutely shocked when eternally grateful tried to turn it around on me when I quoted Number 15: 28-31.

Thanks for standing up to them . Personally I want nothing more to do with them.

Lol.. Explain numbers 15 in context. That passage says those who commit willful sin will be cast out.. Does it not?

So you ar left with 2 choices

1. You do not think you commit willful sin. (Ie your sin does not stink, you commit sin, but they are mistakes)

or 2. Since no one who commits willful sin will get to heaven, NO ONE WILL GET TO HEAVEN.

there is no point 3.

Your still running. Thats sad.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Stop lying and be a man and not a Shrew. I never denied that Paul and Jesus ever used those words.

I just made it clear to you and the other Self professed Christian leaders that you are not justified using profanity behind the pulpit in a bible teaching or anywhere in life based on those verses because you guys are proof texting the scripture to justify your need to be carnal minded and not filled with the Spirit.

Furthermore, why would Paul use foul language and then teach us not to? your proof text is busted by truth.

I know growing up, spiritually is really very hard and actually means you have to work to be imitate Christ, not rely on some passive sanctification mumbo jumbo grace thingy to work it all out for oyu.

So its ok for Jesus to do it, But if we do it we are strong?

Did I say I did it all Thge time? Did I say I hear pastors do it all the time?

Who is the one assuming here my friend, Your judging me based on something YOU DO NOT EVEN KNBOW.

All I have said is in context, I have done it (actually it was only 1 time) yet here you stand as my judge jury and executioner.

gert over it dude.

 

[hardsell]

Lol.. So its ok if they do it, but not ok if we do it? (Although that is not what he was doing, he was attacking)

You and your tribe have never called people into accountability, you call them wrong and on their way to hell and will never make the cut.

There is a difference in calling you into accountability since profess to be a learned Bible teacher in ministry and someone calling others wrong because they do not agree with you version of theology, traditions and and calling to the ONLY Gospel.

 

[hardsell]

I was absolutely shocked when eternally grateful tried to turn it around on me when I quoted Number 15: 28-31.

Thanks for standing up to them . Personally I want nothing more to do with them.

No thanks required, they just need to grow up spiritually.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If you have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit then do you know whether it was the result of the sop or of the sup?

Not sure what you mean bro.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You and your tribe have never called people into accountability, you call them wrong and on their way to hell and will never make the cut.

You have been here less than a month, How do you know what we do?

Or are You one of the banned people who have returned? Because there is no way you can know what we do unless you were here before.

There is a difference in calling you into accountability since profess to be a learned Bible teacher in ministry and someone calling others wrong because they do not agree with you version of theology, traditions and and calling to the ONLY Gospel.

Again, Who died and made you God. Do you KNBOW DC? That you think you have the right to call him into accountability? He has told you what he said, and showed that he did not even say whet YOU THOUGHT HE SAID, yet have you apologized to him for misrepresenting him? Have you asked his forgiveness for assuming he said something he has not said?

Of course not. Because people like you will never admit when you are wrong. You blame shift. I am not sure who you are, but it will come out one day.

I get sick of people blameshifting, I get sick of people slandering others. And I stand up to people who do this. It has made people mad (seven seas is one of them) but I do not care. People who claim they represent God yet will not admit their sins, and then judge others. I will stand up to them.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No thanks required, they just need to grow up spiritually.

lolol. Thanks bud, I needed this laugh.

 

[preacher4truth]

It's not my fault you can't read.

More ad hominem. It's hard to have any dialog when this is in nearly every one of your responses. Not fitting of a believer and frankly it's callow behavior on your part.

Is it possible for you to have grown up dialog, or is it always ad hominem and callow responses from you?