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Eromonnis

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I would like to read from those who had experienced healing from Crystal Therapy.
 
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Well, since it's purely New Age occultism it's likely something you want to avoid.
 

Eromonnis

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Well, since it's purely New Age occultism it's likely something you want to avoid.
Are crystals, and their piezoelectric effects, also regarded as occultism?
 
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Personally, everything I've seen referenced in the "use" of crystals has been tied to the New Age movement. I have yet to see a single person use them in any other manner.
I had a friend who was deeply into new age. She tried arguing that using crystals to heal was biblical. But she had to stretch, bend and twist the bible, and her mind, for it to even seem possibly true.
And since New Age is a somewhat all encompassing belief system people are free to, basically, create their own, subjective, mini-religion. One common theme amongst New Age is the use of crystals.
I know of no strictly medical based uses for crystals.
The basic premise is that these crystals draw out negative energy, and with negative energy out healing can happen.
All of this revolves around a belief that there is no single deity that is capable of relationship. But rather God is the universe and what we send out, we get back. Their god is essentially a santa figure.
Because "everything is god" this includes nature. And since crystals are rare and pretty, they make the perfect source for being "special".
My friend tried to get me to buy into her beliefs and attempt some of this and I refused.
 

Waggles

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Jesus only ever spoke about laying hands on the sick and
praying for them.
We have a prayer line at our meetings where people come
forth to the front for prayer, many are healed there and then.
Other incrementally as they work through their faith.
Never ever needed a crystal in my pocket.
 

Adstar

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I would like to read from those who had experienced healing from Crystal Therapy.
Then go to a new ager forum where occultists will tell you all they want you to believe...
 

Eromonnis

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I can see that.
However, crystals is as natural as other minerals, which taken orally, can heal a person. These minerals are called medicines.
Personally, everything I've seen referenced in the "use" of crystals has been tied to the New Age movement...
Crystal Therapy is also seen as an alternative healing technique, similar to acupuncture and message therapy. Laying on of hands for healing is also similar. It is about using natural resources to aid in healing. That is what this sub-forum (Natural health) is about.
...I know of no strictly medical based uses for crystals....
Crystal structures of certain elements are used for treating cancer patience with radiation therapy.

What I am say is that certain uses of God's natural elements, such as crystals, often contribute to a persons healing. Unfortunately, many practitioners, like our own early and historical experiments in medicine was quite often a hit or miss experience. So too are the many alternative therapeutic techniques used today. Even medicines have to go on trial runs before approval. Most crystal therapists know what certain things work for certain situations, but cannot yet explain the exact reasons. There is still much the medical practitioner, and research medical scientists don't know. They are still classed as miracles. Even Jesus used saliva and an earth to make mud as a means for aiding the healing process. Can medical science explain that? No, it can't, not yet anyway.

Much has to do with faith, and faith is important in the medical field too. It is a strange phenomenon, and we humans are capable of using faith in God for healing. Or even the so-called lack of faith can stop healing (which is faith that it won't work).
If a person believes that a medicine (even a placebo) will work, it will.

There are doctors, and patients, that believe it was the doctor that healed them. No, that is not true! All the doctor can do is provide assistance to the body. It is the body which goes through the healing process, not the doctor. The body is under control to the person's mind, and the mind is also connected to the soul. Whatever collaboration is happening between mind and soul governs the healing processes. But can medical science prove that one. No, it cannot as of yet, for the medical authorities still won't rely on God.

Used in the correct way, both scientifically and spiritually (via guidance by the Holy Spirit), and in collaboration between patient and God, crystals therapy, and other alternative therapies, can be used as a tool for healing.
 

JosephsDreams

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Crystal therapy works. It has a new age connotation, but as a Christian you just ignore that and use them purely for healing purposes. Some Christians seem to forget God made the crystals. Last I looked, in the bible it said what He made was "good".

The parallel is not different then martial arts. A Christian can take martial arts, just don't get into any of the religious practices of it.

Getting back to crystal, I have had experiences with them, and know some people who have. All have been positive. You might want to check out the company Vibranz. I have no financial stake in them, so this is not a info commercial.
They use a quantum field generator to imbue there crystals and stones with ultra vibrational qualities.

i have had them (unscientifically, but relatively accurately) tested. They work beyond what some conventional crystals do.
They are not cheap, but then again, some crystals can be expensive to. Still again, there is a difference between expensive, cheap and VALUE.

The value is there, be it conventional crystals and/or the Vibranz.

While we are on the subject, check out Matt Caselli's site, Vibra-Chi. He sells Bio conductive clay for cleansing and energy. I have used it and I know other who have. Definite benefits.
LetNatureTakeItsCourse.com
 

JosephsDreams

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Your #7 post was so good I repped you. The day is early, but its probably going to be the best post of the day (for me).
 
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The application of crystals is immense in the modern world, even technological healing. And I still think much is little understood about them. Even superman stored stuff on crystals, and that is not so far from the truth, in regards to the best way to store data (at some point in the future).

As for healing properties, I think its a pseudoscience that is little discovered or proven.

I think the forming of crystals is very interesting. In one study they viewed how crystals developed based on a focused intention, like hate, love.

What you have to remember is that we are made up mostly of water, and we have many functions in the body which crystallise.

 

JosephsDreams

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The application of crystals is immense in the modern world, even technological healing. And I still think much is little understood about them. Even superman stored stuff on crystals, and that is not so far from the truth, in regards to the best way to store data (at some point in the future).

As for healing properties, I think its a pseudoscience that is little discovered or proven.

I think the forming of crystals is very interesting. In one study they viewed how crystals developed based on a focused intention, like hate, love.

What you have to remember is that we are made up mostly of water, and we have many functions in the body which crystallise.

I had read about this years ago. How they form to thoughts. They definitely have healing properties, but they are not understood as well as some other modalities. But then neither are Fred Van Liew's energy mugs, and they work. And then there is zero point energy. And then there are earth chakras and vortices. Yes, the earth has energy grids.

So everything is not yet quantifiable or understood by science. Not at this time. That does not mean they are not viable forms of energy and healing.

An example. I know some clinical people who say I am crazy to give Van Liew's energy mugs a second thought. I did my little experiments with them though.
My friend has been allergic to lemons since he could recall. I had him put the lemon in the energy mug for 5 minutes. Then he had a little; no reaction. Then he had a little more. No reaction. He repeated the cycle a couple of more times, finishing the whole lemon, and no reaction. He could not believe it, and I can't fully prove how I think it works, but now he can rat lemons.

Another example. I used sandpaper to give myself a open wound, not to deep, on my left hand. I let it heal on its own. I kept a log of what and when I ate the days it was healing, and how much I slept. I waited about a month after it healed and then did the same thing with the sandpaper on my right hand, on the same spot I did on my left hand, the same depth, width and length. Same diet, same hours of sleep. Roughly the same schedule and physical exertion during the days it was healing as before.

I put my hand in and around the energy mug while it was healing as much as possible. When sleeping and eating and using the lap top.

My right hand healed about 35% to 40% sooner !
 
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Salt, sugar and ice are crystals. Graphite in pencils is crystal made from carbon. All the electronic and mechanical technologies we have work because of crystal properties. Crystals are cut into gemstones and used for jewelry. Certain watches keep time more accurately thru the energy from crystals. Crystals are no more evil than any other solid (or liquid) material we all utilize every day.
 

Eromonnis

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There is another thread about 'grounding'. I have a large Black tourmaline which I used to hold whenever I got overly agitated. After a while I found myself settled down. It was explained to me that this particular gemstone was capable of absorbing higher brainwave frequencies that are commonly present when someone is agitated or overly alert. This type of effect, on human consciousness is also called 'grounding'.

 
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Really? Interesting how several of you are justifying this repackaged Eastern Mysticism, New Age thought, idolatry, sorcery.

And that is exactly what it all is.

The LORD is my Rock; Psalm 18:2.

I have all I need in him for life and godliness; 2 Peter 1:3. All I need to be compete is in Christ, Colossians, and via his Word, 2 Timothy 3:16-17.

So, that being said, I will take a pass on the other alternatives to my LORD, Savior and Rock and depend upon him and his Word...
 

Enoch987

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soundhealthoptions.com. This lady can hear disease in a person's voice then send you sound waves to bring the person back to health. She has formalized her methods so voice recordings can be analyzed by waveform so other people can do the same as she does using computer waveform analysis software..
scalar energy. Tom Paladino. Claims to use technology developed by Tesla. Analyzes the aura of a picture of your hand and send energy through the atmosphere though he is far away to heal you. Free 10 day trial. link at powerhournation.com or tompaladino.com
 

Prov910

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First the grounders/earthers. Now this. These threads in the natural health forum just keep getting wackier. I can't believe there are fruit loops who actually believe in this stuff.

 
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That is what people of the world ,and the occult do is think there is power through physical objects such as crystals,but to a Christian all power comes from the Spirit.

When Jesus healed He did not use crystals or any physical objects,neither did He send vibes,or energy to emit from His body to heal people,for He is God manifest in the flesh whose Spirit is omnipresent,so when Jesus healed it was the Spirit outside His body that healed in accordance to Jesus as God,and as the man Christ Jesus doing the will of God.

Also the occult would be involved,and interested in thinking about numerology of the Bible,and trying to find hidden wisdom that is not there,for it is already plainly written for us to read and be known to us in the right context by the Spirit.

Can you hear it,the Spirit,and not physical objects,or numerology.

But it is going to happen and we cannot stop it,and it will get worse,and will pave the way to the world rebelling against God,giving heed to a false interpretation of the Bible based on the occult,nature worship,witchcraft,numerology,spiritual evolution through nature,and people can still evolve through nature,Jesus is not Lord and Savior,but a good teacher in spiritual enlightenment,and an ascended master,and do not acknowledge a personal God,but honor the God of forces,or the power of nature as their higher power.

It is the latter times and God is allowing the world to rebel against Him so He can end this sin business on earth.

Isa 47:3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.

God has to one day allow the world to have their way for a certain amount of time to cause all people that do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,so He can end this sin business on earth.He cannot allow the earth to go on forever with its sin.

The first time God came to deal with people's sin problem He came as a humble man offering the forgiveness of sins and salvation.The second time God comes to deal with people's sin problem He will come as God and put them down.

Isa 47:7 And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.
Isa 47:8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:
Isa 47:9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.
Isa 47:10 For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
Isa 47:11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.
Isa 47:12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.
Isa 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
Isa 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

The Bible says that Babylon will never have dominion again,so the daughter of Babylon has the spirit of Babylon,which we can identify today,who allows all the religions to be practiced in her nation,even Satan worship,the occult,and the new age movement.

The beginning of the end.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The new age movement interpretation of the Bible based on the spiritual evolution through nature.Forbid to marry of a man and a woman for population reduction,which one day the world will agree to it,and command to abstain from meats,nature worship,which one day the world will agree to it.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The new age movement is the future for this sinful world,and the time that the world will not want to endure the truth of the Bible,but hear it according to the new age movement,people are still evolving and can be greater,according to their own lusts,power through nature,and will be turned unto fables,the imagination of people not based in reality.

So as time goes by many people will view the Bible that way,and many of the faith will be turned unto the new age movement,and they will be involved in crystals,stones,physical objects,thinking they can obtain a benefit from them by nature,and numerology thinking they can find hidden wisdom in the Bible,and there are many paths to the same destination of evolution through nature,and believe mind creates reality more real than the world of sense,so if they can think it,it is reality,and possible.

Crystals mean nothing,or any physical object that people would use thinking they can use the power of nature to heal,and Jesus did not heal people from power inside His body,and emitting from His body to another person,but the Spirit outside His body did the healing.

What is strange is we think it is terrible to be arguing over the things we do,but soon we will have to be arguing with those that adhere to the new age movement interpretation of the Bible when it becomes more popular until it becomes international law that religion is about evolution,and evolving through nature,and fundamental Christianity is not to be preached or it is a hate crime.
 

Eromonnis

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That is what people of the world ,and the occult do is think there is power through physical objects such as crystals,but to a Christian all power comes from the Spirit.

When Jesus healed He did not use crystals or any physical objects,neither did He send vibes,or energy to emit from His body to heal people,for He is God manifest in the flesh whose Spirit is omnipresent,so when Jesus healed it was the Spirit outside His body that healed in accordance to Jesus as God,and as the man Christ Jesus doing the will of God...
James 9:6 After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes.

Mark 8: 23-25 He took the blind man by the hand and led him outside the village. When he had spit on the man's eyes and put his hands on him, Jesus asked, "Do you see anything?" He looked up and said, "I see people; they look like trees walking around." Once more Jesus put his hands on the man's eyes. Then his eyes were opened, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly.

Mark 7:33-35 After he took him aside, away from the crowd, Jesus put his fingers into the man's ears. Then he spit and touched the man's tongue. He looked up to heaven and with a deep sigh said to him, "Ephphatha!" (which means "Be opened!"). At this, the man's ears were opened, his tongue was loosened and he began to speak plainly.

Did not Jesus use saliva (chemical solution) and ground (minerals), both made from God's Uncreated Light, as a means towards healing. Did no Jesus use his body (fingers) together with God's will, as a means to heal _ much like laying on of hands.
 

JosephsDreams

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Really? Interesting how several of you are justifying this repackaged Eastern Mysticism, New Age thought, idolatry, sorcery.

And that is exactly what it all is.

The LORD is my Rock; Psalm 18:2.

I have all I need in him for life and godliness; 2 Peter 1:3. All I need to be compete is in Christ, Colossians, and via his Word, 2 Timothy 3:16-17.

So, that being said, I will take a pass on the other alternatives to my LORD, Savior and Rock and depend upon him and his Word...
You are not a man of science, are you?
 

JosephsDreams

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soundhealthoptions.com. This lady can hear disease in a person's voice then send you sound waves to bring the person back to health. She has formalized her methods so voice recordings can be analyzed by waveform so other people can do the same as she does using computer waveform analysis software..
scalar energy. Tom Paladino. Claims to use technology developed by Tesla. Analyzes the aura of a picture of your hand and send energy through the atmosphere though he is far away to heal you. Free 10 day trial. link at powerhournation.com or tompaladino.com
I know of a guy that you send him a picture of you. It could be current or twenty years ago. He then tells you what your health issues are. He seems to get it right just about all the time.