What Is Romans 9 About?

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eternally-gratefull

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I started to reply to him on this, but he says he has me on ignore…He doesn’t like the fact that I have called him out a few times on his attitude toward others.

I have never agreed with how he treats others, but now, though, I cannot take anything he says seriously.

He is saying others are censoring God and making him out to be what they want him to be. Yet, he is throwing up a few verses that he thinks makes God to be what he wants him to be, and then he is not even willing to discuss those verses. All he is doing is throwing up a smoke screen and deflecting by blame shifting, name calling, etc.

So until, he is willing to discuss scripture openly, I cannot take one word he says as serious. I am reading what everyone else is saying, though, because at least they appear to be trying to discuss the scripture.
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Just be open sis. I saw you say you wanted to see what people were saying about romans 9. That shows you had an open heart. Even if you disagree with me that is ok. Some people however are seriously offended if you disagree with them.

I find it odd though he has you on ignore but not me.. Pret telling there.. Especially since I have yet seen you say a bad word to anyone.

If you look earlier, Someone else posted what they thought of romans 9 as you see, non of them are taking him up on it, they are making every excuse not to even discuss it..
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Just be open sis. I saw you say you wanted to see what people were saying about romans 9. That shows you had an open heart. Even if you disagree with me that is ok. Some people however are seriously offended if you disagree with them.

I find it odd though he has you on ignore but not me.. Pret telling there.. Especially since I have yet seen you say a bad word to anyone.

If you look earlier, Someone else posted what they thought of romans 9 as you see, non of them are taking him up on it, they are making every excuse not to even discuss it..
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Agreeing to disagree is not the problem.
It's how we disagree. That is the problem
 
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I never stated anyone censors God.
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Ok preacher ,I'm not going to keep playing this game with you so you can twist this however you like...

preacher4truth said:
He doesn't know what he's talking about, nor do you. Bottom line is both of you have similar traits in censuring God.
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Just to be honest with you though, I think that saying someone has traits of Censoring God is just as rude and unnecessary. But like I said earlier, I'm finished with playing this little game with you.
 
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1ofthem said:
Ok preacher ,I'm not going to keep playing this game with you so you can twist this however you like...



Just to be honest with you though, I think that saying someone has traits of Censoring God is just as rude and unnecessary. But like I said earlier, I'm finished with playing this little game with you.
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Good be done your hate for me has been noted since I've joined here as you dog my steps to mouth from thread to thread, attacking. :D

Oh, and one more time: I've never said anyone has censored God. You don't know what you're talking about or what it means.
 
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Ah, I wanted to respond here, and not necessarily to Depleted (meaning below) whose opinion I will respect, but will and do wholly disagree with. :)

1) For the record, as I've been accused by the person you've addressed above, I've never once stated that EG has censored God.
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Ah, wasn't being specific. Just saying you do get bristly often. You do go, more often, to making it personal and attack, then you do present a point. You do go offensive often and then defensive when it's turned back on you. It is too much.

But then again, same thing with EG.

I think you both hyperbole often too.

Truthfully, I figure it's too pit bulls facing each other. Stay far enough away, and no teeth hit the rest in the area. But sometimes the sound and viciousness does get to me. We're not all pit bulls, but this is supposed to be a dog park, not a specific-breed park.

I don't know if you've notice, but I don't attaboy for nastiness. I give likes to people I agree with. I've given you more likes than EG, because we agree theologically. But, I also give EG likes when we agree.

What bothers me now is how people are giving EG so many attaboys for doing the same thing they don't like when you do it. That's not hyperbole. That's hypocrisy. It feels like the 7th grade schoolyard.
 
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Ah, wasn't being specific. Just saying you do get bristly often. You do go, more often, to making it personal and attack, then you do present a point. You do go offensive often and then defensive when it's turned back on you.
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No problem I'm apathetic about it all at this point and still disagree, though with lots of complacency. Lol! ;)
 
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1ofthem said:
I probably shouldn't have even made that post and thought about deleting shortly after I did, but it was over the 5 minutes time period.

We all can have moments and let our attitude get out of hand, but most will apologize when they do that. You know as well as I do that I can get out of hand at times too. However, when I do, I do try to apologize for it.

Now I can only speak for myself and my own opinion here, but I don't ever see that with preacher4.

And I know it ain't really my business, but I can't stand to see someone trying to push others around...Why not at least try to discuss it with the word of God, and not just some arrogant drama???
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Most of my apologies are done in PM. And, of all people, you know better than most, I don't always apologize. But I also see a whole lot of apologizing done on this site that isn't even an apology. It's making the person look good to others, while never truly apologizing to the person who was offended. Because of all that, I don't really look for apologizes people do or don't give to see if anyone even apologized.

That said? Your question in the last paragraph?



Drives me nuts too!
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Just be open sis. I saw you say you wanted to see what people were saying about romans 9. That shows you had an open heart. Even if you disagree with me that is ok. Some people however are seriously offended if you disagree with them.

I find it odd though he has you on ignore but not me.. Pret telling there.. Especially since I have yet seen you say a bad word to anyone.

If you look earlier, Someone else posted what they thought of romans 9 as you see, non of them are taking him up on it, they are making every excuse not to even discuss it..
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I cannot tell you why someone else chose to put you on ignore. I can tell you why I -- who has about 40 people ignored -- have not put you on ignore though. And it's going to outrage you to death.

Sometimes, sometimes, you have something good to say.
 
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preacher4truth said:
Good be done your hate for me has been noted since I've joined here as you dog my steps to mouth from thread to thread, attacking. :D

Oh, and one more time: I've never said anyone has censored God. You don't know what you're talking about or what it means.
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I do not hate you preacher. I have told you that before...and I am not attacking you. Like I've told you before, I seriously don't think you even realize how wrong it is to treat others the way you do.

But anyhow, I'm finished with this conversation right now...I'm going to try to read the posts on this thread dealing with the scripture, and not take part in further distracting from it with any more of these blame games.

May God bless you:)
 
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preacher4truth said:
Good be done your hate for me has been noted since I've joined here as you dog my steps to mouth from thread to thread, attacking. :D

Oh, and one more time: I've never said anyone has censored God. You don't know what you're talking about or what it means.
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Clarification: Annoyed isn't hate. It's annoyed.
 
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1ofthem said:
I do not hate you preacher. I have told you that before...and I am not attacking you. Like I've told you before, I seriously don't think you even realize how wrong it is to treat others the way you do.

But anyhow, I'm finished with this conversation right now...I'm going to try to read the posts on this thread dealing with the scripture, and not take part in further distracting from it with any more of these blame games.

May God bless you:)
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Let it go.
 
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preacher4truth said:
No problem I'm apathetic about it all at this point and still disagree, though with lots of complacency. Lol! ;)
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Honestly? I didn't think you had an apathetic bone in your body. I thought you'd be just as fierce if we were discussing which is better -- blue or red. lol
 
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Clarification: Annoyed isn't hate. It's annoyed.
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Oh but you're butting in when you're not familiarized with her initial attacks when I first joined. Sometimes myob is good advice. I'm completely aware of the hate, I was the one who received it, and, her dogging my steps mouthing from thread to thread since. I've generally just ignored her.
 
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And I'm going to reiterate once again: I've never stated anyone here censors God. My desire is people would accuse accurately if they're going to do it. I have no issue owning what I actually said. :D
 
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1ofthem said:
I probably shouldn't have even made that post and thought about deleting shortly after I did, but it was over the 5 minutes time period.

We all can have moments and let our attitude get out of hand, but most will apologize when they do that. You know as well as I do that I can get out of hand at times too. However, when I do, I do try to apologize for it.

Now I can only speak for myself and my own opinion here, but I don't ever see that with preacher4.

And I know it ain't really my business, but I can't stand to see someone trying to push others around...Why not at least try to discuss it with the word of God, and not just some arrogant drama???
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I do not think they understand the issue. It is not about disagreeing
 
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1ofthem said:
Reread what I posted and show me where I said that...I said you say "others censor God" nowhere did I say you said EG.

So I'm sorry if that hurt your feelings, or made you feel wronged:)
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Sorry you have to go through this
 
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Honestly? I didn't think you had an apathetic bone in your body. I thought you'd be just as fierce if we were discussing which is better -- blue or red. lol
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Blue of course. Unless you agree, then red is best. Lol...:D
 
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preacher4truth said:
I never stated anyone censors God.
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For the record. Since claims he never said it.


preacher4truth said:
You shouldn't expect anything less, or anything more because the fact is it isn't simple. :)

You're one who thinks the Gospel is only simple, and your definition of simple in context of what you write is "simpleton-ism." Somehow you think this makes you appear intelligent. Or something. Let me be the first to inform you it does just the opposite.

Any person, you included, who thinks Romans or the Gospel to be simple is just showing their ignorance of both.

Yes, I know, you departed from all teachers and discovered the truth on your own by your own personal self-attestation.

No person in the history of the church has ever displayed such self-importance or arrogance of reliance on self, or even saying "No, me and the Holy Spirit" in rebuttal and defense. The fact that you are "self taught" explains your many errors and unfortunately you'll more than likely remain there.

The multitudes of erroneous things you teach, and how you censure God just show you simply don't get it even though you claim it as so simple. You will not allow God to be God and have drawn out your own criteria that he must meet to be god, or he is not God and is not fair. Well known fact.

But I digress, at the least you profess to know Christ as the only way to heaven which is the most important thing.
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preacher4truth said:
He doesn't know what he's talking about, nor do you. Bottom line is both of you have similar traits in censuring God.
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preacher4truth said:
And of course not one thing you've said above is true, nor have I stated it, nor do I believe it. Wonder why you're bearing false witness and not dealing with facts about yourself and the actual Scriptures?

You isolate Romans 9 from the rest of Scripture, and you won't listen to the Word or any form of truth, nor will you bow to the God of Scripture.

The fact remains you've censured God, and continue to do so. You, like many others have told God what he must be like to be God.
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