That verse even says if abide in sin you do not know him. How are you missing that?
Ralph, yet again, as you yourself sin every day, how is that not abiding in sin?
So that's why he became sin for us....so we can keep on sinning and not change but be saved anyway because we are incapable of stopping our sin? Really? So you're saying I can keep sinning in my old life because grace makes it so it doesn't matter anymore?
That's making grace a license to sin.
Aaaaand there you go - the very thing you've been called on out again and again and again. Not one person here has said grace gives you a license to sin. We should live as much an obedient life as we can,
but not for salvation! That issue was completely settled over 2,000 years ago.
The whole point is, if even a single sin is attributed for us - just one - we are lost and on our way to hell. Since without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin, and since Jesus isn't coming back to die for sins ever again, either
all sin is covered under the blood and forgiven, or they're
not.
And if not - every single person - including me and you - are doomed.
You harp on and on about "living in sin" and "abiding" in sin, when there are
no sins attributed to Christians -
so your whole argument is pointless!
Grace purifies us, instructing us to deny ungodliness. If this isn't happening in you and you're not growing up into Christ, you do not have the grace of God. Remember that the next time you indulge your sinful appetites thinking God's grace makes it so you can do that and have the grace of God in salvation at the same time.
Grave is unmerited, Ralph. That means you can't add a single thing to it. Not a single work. If you did, then you could claim some of God's glory for yourself.
You literally have no understanding what the gospel is about. You mouth the words back to us, but you obviously can't comprehend salvation. You equate proof of salvation with works,
when even a charlatan can do countless good works. You have no real clue what the Judgment Seat of Christ is about - or why there would be one.
Even the book of James (you like to quote so often) that speaks of being saved in regard to works, means if you have faith but don't have any works, it will not save you from the consequences of the Judgment Seat - which is the judgment of believers according to their works. You will not be spared the embarrassment, the regret, the sorrow, the tears, or the shame at the loss of rewards you will experience when you stand before the Lord, and He asks, "What did you do since you were saved?"
If you've done nothing for Him, you're not going to be saved/delivered from the
consequences of this judgment - which means you will suffer loss of rewards. Your "hay and stubble" will be burned up, yet you yourself will remain saved.
Salvation itself is a gift, but one without works will regret they did not live for Christ. Indeed, "faith without works is dead" because works are the means to display
the life of your faith to men. Our works/testimony are what impacts others for Christ.
The only "proof" we need of salvation, is God's word being true.
If we have believed that what Jesus did, He did for us - placing our faith/trust in Him alone to accomplish what He promised - we are saved forevermore.
That's it, that's all, thank the Lord!
