Church of Christ

[Elizabeth619]

People, let’s not argue. There are obviously different sects of the. CoC. The sect imma member of uses the Bible as the only authority. We are NT Christians. We speak where the Bible speaks and silent where it is silent. It’s a very conservative belief, and many times considered legalistic. We are not OSAS. We do believe in water baptism as an essential part of salvation. If this thread turns into a brutal, insulting debate ill ask for it to be deleted. I can no longer handle disrespectful debates about religion, politics, etc. Over these last several months I’ve done quite a bit of “soul searching” (which explains my absence). One thing I want out of my life is negativity. The last place I want to come to and see arguing is a place where Christians gather and insults are thrown. Emotionally, I can no longer handle it. Not online and not in the real world.

 

[MichaelOwen]

People, let’s not argue. There are obviously different sects of the. CoC. The sect imma member of uses the Bible as the only authority. We are NT Christians. We speak where the Bible speaks and silent where it is silent. It’s a very conservative belief, and many times considered legalistic. We are not OSAS. We do believe in water baptism as an essential part of salvation. If this thread turns into a brutal, insulting debate ill ask for it to be deleted. I can no longer handle disrespectful debates about religion, politics, etc. Over these last several months I’ve done quite a bit of “soul searching” (which explains my absence). One thing I want out of my life is negativity. The last place I want to come to and see arguing is a place where Christians gather and insults are thrown. Emotionally, I can no longer handle it. Not online and not in the real world.

You're going to have negativity regardless anywhere you go, but you need to continue on in prayer and supplication. I come from a Baptist background, I believe the scriptures tell me that once I am saved, I am saved and sealed unto the day of redemption (when I leave here). You gotta lean on Christ

 

[eternally-gratefull]

People, let’s not argue. There are obviously different sects of the. CoC. The sect imma member of uses the Bible as the only authority. We are NT Christians. We speak where the Bible speaks and silent where it is silent. It’s a very conservative belief, and many times considered legalistic. We are not OSAS. We do believe in water baptism as an essential part of salvation. If this thread turns into a brutal, insulting debate ill ask for it to be deleted. I can no longer handle disrespectful debates about religion, politics, etc. Over these last several months I’ve done quite a bit of “soul searching” (which explains my absence). One thing I want out of my life is negativity. The last place I want to come to and see arguing is a place where Christians gather and insults are thrown. Emotionally, I can no longer handle it. Not online and not in the real world.

I agree, this thread is about the CoC. And who they are, Not if they are wrong or not. We can discuss a few doctrines, if it comes up. But attacking a group of people is just wrong. Although I am sure I have done it in the past.

 

[DJ2]

Well, well, Aren’t you happy to expose me as a false teacher. I bet you jumped on this< ( I finally get to expose EG as a heretic. EG is not only wrong, he is wrong wrong!!)

I never stated it as fact, I was saying I believe (Most people who say this are saying they think this is what it is, but they ar not sure) they were the same.

However, You are right, I knew the boston church went to another name, it actually moved out of Boston last I heard and went west somewhere, but I could be wrong about this too.

but, If I made you happy trying to correct me, Then so be it

I admit, I was wrong,, Unlike others, I am not afraid to do that, and have proven it time and time again.

(by the way, A more christian response would have been, Eg, I think maybe you misunderstood, The international church (Actually just hearing this word, I would have admitted i was wrong) church was the boston church, Not the united. They were a different churhc non related)

built then again, After knowing you, I would not expect that. So be it

My my aren't you thin skinned. Somebody corrects you and this is how you react? I have been called much worst then wrong on this forum. Buck up.

By the way, I did not say you were "wrong wrong", I said you were very, very wrong.

 

[Elizabeth619]

You're going to have negativity regardless anywhere you go, but you need to continue on in prayer and supplication. I come from a Baptist background, I believe the scriptures tell me that once I am saved, I am saved and sealed unto the day of redemption (when I leave here). You gotta lean on Christ

I agree with you about the negativity and we have to lean on Christ. I’ve been through a lot this year. And I still have alot to overcome. Right now I need encouragement. One thing I have changed is my view on different doctrines. Instead of me saying “you’re wrong” I want to know why others believe differently. Not to get them to believe “my way” but to be more understanding of others.
Example, last week my town lost a beloved firefighter in the line of duty. Our entire town is still mourning. This man literally gave his own life to save others. He laid down his life. He was also a Baptist and he loved the Lord. People don’t need to tell me that he wasn’t a member of the CoC and therefore will not have eternal life because he doesn’t believe “my way”. I firmly Bellevue Heaven has a hero. This mans death humbled me in ways I cannot imagine.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My my aren't you thin skinned. Somebody corrects you and this is how you react? I have been called much worst then wrong on this forum. Buck up.

By the way, I did not say you were "wrong wrong", I said you were very, very wrong.

Yep. No pride in you. I am sure everyone knows it was a slam. We have become accustomed to it.

But thats ok. You did not bother me at all. You never have..

And no, I am not thin skinned or thick skinned, If I was. I would hae defended myself at all costs. And never admitted I was wrong.

Back to the topic please.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I agree, this thread is about the CoC. And who they are, Not if they are wrong or not. We can discuss a few doctrines, if it comes up. But attacking a group of people is just wrong. Although I am sure I have done it in the past.

even you and I have had some spirited debates in the past.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

even you and I have had some spirited debates in the past.

Yes we have.. yet we do not hate each other..lol

Good to see you back,

 

[Elizabeth619]

Yes we have.. yet we do not hate each other..lol

Good to see you back,

I’ll pop in from time to time. Glad to see you.

 

[Elizabeth619]

I can see my typos haven’t improved. FYI Bellevue wasn’t supposed to be BELIEVE

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I’ll pop in from time to time. Glad to see you.

I will be praying for you. Seems like your going through what I went through about 12 years ago.. Having to look at my views. And dissect them with scripture..

It can be rough finding out those you entrusted let you down. I just keep praying I am open. And not like I was so early in my life. Pig headed, arrogant, and refusing to push away from any belief I had. (I came to believe all baptists were this way, I soon found out that was not true either..lol)

 

[MichaelOwen]

I’ll pop in from time to time. Glad to see you.

It's really a blessing to see you back, I'm truly sorry to hear about the loss your town had. Heaven definitely welcomed a child of God when he was called home. The best thing you have, and the most important thing, and it completely outranks and trumps everything else (denomination, belief, etc.), is that you have your faith and belief and heart entrusted to Jesus Christ. Regardless of what man tells you or what Jo Blow down the street says, that is the narrow path Jesus speaks of. And you're on that path, so never be dismayed or discourage, you're a beautiful Child of our Lord

 

[abcdef]

Let's say that you came to a city where there was no church/congregation that you would want to worship at.

Then you decided to start a congregation with others in a rented building.

And you would say that you wanted to follow the Bible example of what the congregation should be like.

What would you do?

Join with a denomination or remain as an independent congregation?

Have elders/bishops to make decisions independently, or call a headquarters, or an archbishop?

Would you toss out the traditions of men and just go by the Bible, or keep to the rituals of the past?

What kind of congregation would you end up with if you just followed the example of the Bible?

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For many years the Bible was not available to most people.

Then when it began to be translated and printed, people realized that the RCC was not following the Bible (Martin Luther).

As people broke away from the RCC, they tried to get closer to the truth about Jesus and His church/kingdom.

At first the groups were not very different from the RCC,the main problem, and even today,is the authority of the Bishop of Rome (BoR) Vatican.

Over time groups began to abandon the traditions of the RCC and came closer to the simplicity of the early congregations.

Now we don't need denominations, or head quarters to tell people what to believe, we can go by the Bible.

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There are many different groups of Christians with different names worshiping in spirit and truth.

It's your personal relationship with God that is most important.

Some variations should be expected.

But if you go by the Bible, most things should be the same.

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What kind of congregation would you have?

What name would you put on the sign outside?

Would you join a denomination or remain independent?

What would you do?

 

[Elizabeth619]

It's really a blessing to see you back, I'm truly sorry to hear about the loss your town had. Heaven definitely welcomed a child of God when he was called home. The best thing you have, and the most important thing, and it completely outranks and trumps everything else (denomination, belief, etc.), is that you have your faith and belief and heart entrusted to Jesus Christ. Regardless of what man tells you or what Jo Blow down the street says, that is the narrow path Jesus speaks of. And you're on that path, so never be dismayed or discourage, you're a beautiful Child of our Lord

Thank you for the kind words. Here’s an interview with the fallen figure fighters father that was taken earlier today. I was in school with Jason. He truly was an amazing guy. I would like to ask everyone to pray for his family. Especially his wife. She’s expecting a baby in a few weeks

https://www.google.com/amp/wkrn.com...allen-firefighter-says-gods-got-a-reason/amp/

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Wow, thanks for sharing, what a testimony. again, prayers go out for all.

 

[Bladerunner]

Even though this link is about the founding of the Mormon Church, apparently they originally called themselves the Church of Christ. It was later changed to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, or the Mormon Church.

The Church of Christ this WHOLE THREAD is about is the church that was essentially "founded" by Thomas and Alexander Campbell, and Barton W Stone, in the early 1800's...

If you try to call the Mormon Church the Church of Christ today, people will think you are a fool. The two churches are completely different.

Again, the one you are apparently railing against is now known as the Mormon Church, or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints....... founded by Joseph Smith in the late 1800's.

Like I said,,,look to the literature, leaflets of the church. I cannot help it if you believe it or not...The church leaders will tell you themselves that during the restoration, they broke away from the Mormon church.... Sorry!!!!!!

 

[Bladerunner]

For the umpteenth time, Ths CoC and the LDS are not the same churches. Nor are they related. Nor are they or have they ever been associated together.

Please stop with the comparisons.

Hey, I am sorry the facts point out what you cannot accept..... It does not matter to me.... LOOK IT UP and post convincing to the otherside. please.

 

[DJ2]

You hairy tick .......regardless....Mormon, COC, COG, Catholic, Anglican etc. notwithstanding......water has nothing to do with being saved....regardless of who yanks Acts and Peter out of context..........

regardless.....Jimmy Swaggart, Creflo Dollar, Joseph Prince, Joyce Meyer, Joel Osteen etc. notwithstanding.....abstractions without an event can save no one......regardless of who slaps a definitive label on a general statement.......

Guilt by association is a weak debate tactic. Don't you agree?

 

[7777pinacled]

I am just curious.

Is there anyone here that is/are members of the Church of Christ?
I am a member, and I just wondered who else was. Just trying to touch bases and get a feel of this forum is all.


OHHHHHHH!!! And to those who may think that the CoC thinks we are the only ones going to Heaven...well, some may think that way, but I dont. I am not one to judge others for not believing the same way I do. So I really, do not want this thread to turn in to a church bashing thread like I have seen some people do that Catholics. Thank you. Amen.

I visit one often. Very pleasant people, hospitable, kind, generous, loving and tending to many with our Lords Good Grace.

The congregation is quite large so i have only gotten to know a few dozen peers.
The elders are particularly a lively bunch.
Had some fun attending one of their bible studies.

 

[DJ2]

Like I said,,,look to the literature, leaflets of the church. I cannot help it if you believe it or not...The church leaders will tell you themselves that during the restoration, they broke away from the Mormon church.... Sorry!!!!!!