What is your take on the whole Trump religious phenomenon?

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Dem

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​Socialism is not Gods way,read history.
who said that socialism is Gods way please read the book what do you call it when people love the Lord so much that they have ALL things in common realizing it is all Gods anyway.
 

Dem

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Capitalism without socialism turns into fascism...... socialism without capitalism turns into communism.
Let you moderation be know to all men.
 
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kaylagrl

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who said that socialism is Gods way please read the book what do you call it when people love the Lord so much that they have ALL things in common realizing it is all Gods anyway.
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I don't know what YOU call it but socialism is not the answer. It's been a proven failure down through history and your term "capitalist pigs" is offensive. I mean where have we heard that term before?
 
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kaylagrl

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Capitalism without socialism turns into fascism...... socialism without capitalism turns into communism.
Let you moderation be know to all men.

An interesting table here to look at showing the comparison of capitalism vs socialism...



https://quizlet.com/38726159/characteristics-of-capitalism-socialism-communism-flash-cards/



​ Socialism is not a better system.
 

Dem

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Act 2:44 And all who believed were together and had all things common.
Act 2:45 And they sold their possessions and goods and distributed them to all, according as anyone had need.
Act 2:46 And continuing with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they shared food with gladness and simplicity of heart,
Act 2:47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved. this is how God wanted it to happen in the church but man was too greedy to continue in this way you can not go against the word of God. call it what ever you want.... Yes socialism alone is not the answer... socialism without capitalism turns to communism... capitalism without socialism turns into fascism. Sorry but we are controlled by wicked capitalist pigs just take a look at our congress controlled by capitalist money and Trump is their god. Man will never get it right they will always corrupt it . I kind of love Gods way
 

SparkleEyes

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Not sure if this is the direction the OP is looking to go to with this question, but here is my take: I think some Christians (and some conservatives) are SOOOO incredibly glad that Hillary is not in the WH that they will put up with virtually anything trump does and says. Remember trump's statement that he could murder someone on 5th avenue and he could get away with it? I think Teflon don correctly assessed the situation. Fallwell and Franklin look the other way all the time. If Obama did the things trump does, these two would be all over him.
 

Nehemiah6

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If Obama did the things trump does, these two would be all over him.
Did Trump send almost 2 billion dollars to the primary source of state-sponsored terrorism (Iran), which has also vowed to wage Jihad against the Great Satan (America) and all the Western infidels? At any other time in history, he would have been charged with TREASON for aiding and abetting the enemies of his country, and executed.
 
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Well when Obama was president, all these over imaginative Americans with their amazing gift of prophesy claimed he was the anti christ. To funny. I can only go on what I see I have no real concern for America or care outside that God says we need to pray for all people. I'm sure there a still a lot real Christians left there. Just as there are in Australia. And God tells us not to dispise our government. I try to obey God and not pull down authorities. Whether it be church leaders or government etc
 
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Well when Obama was president, all these over imaginative Americans with their amazing gift of prophesy claimed he was the anti christ. To funny. I can only go on what I see I have no real concern for America or care outside that God says we need to pray for all people. I'm sure there a still a lot real Christians left there. Just as there are in Australia. And God tells us not to dispise our government. I try to obey God and not pull down authorities. Whether it be church leaders or government etc
Every president, or world leader for that matter, gets that 'prophecy'. It's not like it's exclusive to Obama. And it doesn't matter which side of the political spectrum one is on.
 

Nehemiah6

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Well when Obama was president, all these over imaginative Americans with their amazing gift of prophesy claimed he was the anti christ. To funny.
How could it be "too funny" when Obama stood by while hundreds (perhaps thousands) of Middle Eastern Christians were beheaded, slaughtered, tortured, and humiliated and destroyed? Isn't that what the Antichrist will be doing when he appears? There's nothing "over imaginative" about calling a devil a devil. Indeed had the Western media been doing their jobs, they would have gone after Obama even more forcefully than they have been going after Trump, and told the world what this man was really up to. Instead, he was their pet and could do absolutely no wrong. And the man who created, aided, and abetted ISIS was given the Nobel Peach Prize. Correction. Peace Prize.
 
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Seems like it. The fact the anti christ is, The spirit of, seems to escape some people. As Jesus said there have been many. It's the lawless one etc and the mention of the Assyrian would tend to lead one to be looking for a leader of Assyrian descent. I'm not on any side really. More concerned with the simple things, pray study the Word, (not books about it), fellowship with the saints, share the gospel. All those boring trivial things God commands us to do. Things like love God and your fellow man. Guess I'm not cut out to be one of those I can save the world with all my knowledge and tell you when Christ is returning etc. types.
 
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I guess assembling with the saints is socializing. I suppose being how an ism is a belief according to the crossword and dictionary. SOCIALISM COULD BE A CULT LOL. Just an idle thought to get someone ranting and raving . hahaha. Doesn't take much to upset some people who claim to be Christian. Maybe they didn't read the part about loving God and each other.
 

prove-all

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The Left-Liberal media will rarely admit the truth. Here is an article which refutes that claim.
National debt grew more slowly in FY 2017 under Trump
National debt grew more slowly in FY 2017 under Trump
Here are highlights from President Trump’s State of the Union address. He said:

Tonight, I’m calling on Congress to produce a bill that generates at least $1.5 trillion for the
new infrastructure investment that our country so desperately needs. … We will build gleaming
new roads, bridges, highways, railways and waterways all across our land. And we will do it with
American heart, American hands and American grit.

-How do we pay for it all? Our government is already trillions upon trillions of dollars in debt,
yet we’re still shelling out money. President Trump continued:

The first pillar of our framework generously offers a path to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal
immigrants who were brought here by their parents at a young age. That covers almost three
times more people than the previous administration covered.

-In this section of the speech, President Trump capitulated to the Democrats. He is going to let
the Dreamers stay in the country—1.8 million of them. As he even said, that is three times as
many immigrants as the Obama administration let in. That concession is right out of the liberal
playbook—but not even that will placate the anti-Trump Democrats. And devided they stand.
 

prove-all

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who said that socialism is Gods way please read the book what do you call it when people
love the Lord so much that they have ALL things in common realizing it is all Gods anyway.
Are Communist ideas from the Bible ?

Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a documentary broadcast on state-funded channel
Rossiya 1 on January 14 that the Communist ideas of the Soviet Union come from the Bible.

He said:

"Maybe I am about to say something that some people will not like, but I will say what I think.
Firstly, faith has always accompanied us. It strengthened when things were hard for our
people’s country. There have been harsh, God-fighting years when clerics were destroyed
and churches were ruined. But at the same time, [the Soviets] created a new religion.

Communist ideology is very akin to Christianity, actually".
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Mr. Putin is not the first to make such a claim. Advocates of socialism and communism have
often argued that certain passages of Scripture prove that the Bible supports state-enforced
redistribution of wealth.

The most commonly cited passage is in the book of Acts. Acts 2:44-46 say of early Christians:

And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions
and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. And they, continuing daily
with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat
with gladness and singleness of heart. Acts 4:32-35 paint a similar picture of the Church,
saying again that members had “all things common.”
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But a look at the context shows that these passages do not advocate government-mandated
redistribution of wealth like the model that Putin’s Soviet predecessors strove toward.

It is clear that these early Christians were not practicing communism. They were responding
to the needs of a temporary and extraordinary situation. And they were responding to those
needs with voluntary generosity and compassion.

The Bible also shows that not all of the Church members sold their private property for this
emergency. Only some of them chose to—and only on a voluntary basis. This is clear from
a conversation Peter had with a member named Ananias who had sold some of his property.

“The property was yours to sell or not sell, as you wished,” Peter said to him. “And after
selling it, the money was also yours to give away” (Acts 5:4; New Living Translation).

It is clear that Ananias—like all of these individuals—privately owned his property and could
do with it as he chose. “Here was private enterprise, and private initiative, and private ownership
—not regimented communism.


After the new converts left Jerusalem to return to their homes, this temporary “all things common”
situation ended. It is true that generosity, compassion and giving remained a central Church practice
(e.g. Acts 11:27-30; 20:35; 2 Corinthians 9:6-7; Galatians 2:10; 1 Timothy 5).

But such instances of giving were carried out by Church members only on a voluntary basis,
and not at all in line with the Communist model of state-mandated redistribution of wealth.

A study into these and the rest of the scriptures shows that the Bible’s teachings
are as far from Communist ideology as east is from west.
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As he continues on his quest to restore Russia’s superpower status, Putin relies on support from
both Russia’s Orthodox Christians and its Soviet nostalgics. Where he can make the two comingle,
a new kind of religion emerges: Putinism.
 

louis

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Just saw the latest episode of Bill Maher who is an atheist.
Due to all the support Trump is getting from Evangelicals who excuse all of Trumps whoremongering and pathological lying, Maher and others are laughing at the faith these supposed Evangelicals have.
 

prove-all

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Capitalism without socialism turns into fascism......socialism
without capitalism turns into communism. Let you moderation be know to all men.
Maybe we could move to so. Africa, where they have no choice in the matter.
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South African President Pledges to Take Land From White Farmers

The government of South Africa plans to start confiscating white-owned land without
compensation, policymakers announced at the 54th National Conference of the African
National Congress in December. Now South Africa’s new president, Cyril Ramaphosa,
is promising to follow through.


“We will accelerate our land redistribution program not only to redress a grave historical
injustice, but also to bring more producers into the agricultural sector and to make more
land available for cultivation,” he said during his February 16 State of the Nation address.
https://www.fin24.com/Economy/ramap...d-expropriation-without-compensation-20180216


“We will pursue a comprehensive approach that makes effective use of all the mechanisms
at our disposal. Guided by the resolutions of the 54th National Conference of the governing
party, this approach will include the expropriation of land without compensation.”

The South African Communist Party said it welcomed a policy of expropriation of land without
compensation. But it warned that the African National Congress (anc) must not just shout
populist rhetoric, it must follow through. Economic Freedom Fighters (eff), a radical Marxist
party, introduced a motion in South Africa’s parliament on February 27 to amend the nation’s
constitution to allow land seizures. Supported by the anc, the motion passed 241 to 83.
https://citizen.co.za/news/1836291/...s-expropriation-of-land-without-compensation/

The Parliament’s Constitutional Review Committee will report back by August 30
on the feasibility of such land seizures.
S. African National Assembly agrees to land expropriation without compensation - Xinhua | English.news.cn
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Ramaphosa has since said that he will not allow “smash-and-grab interventions.” But in
his abovementioned address to Parliament, he called the taking of land from the indigenous
people of South Africa the nation’s original sin. This statement is a gross misrepresentation
of South Africa’s true history. Contrary to claims that white settlers stole black land,
the Cape Colony was mostly uninhabited when the Dutch settled there in 1652.
https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/n...s-the-original-sin-cyril-ramaphosa-tells-mps/
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...d-expropriation-without-compensation-20180220