Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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Matthew 6 you posted has to do with [God will provide],
not sure where the ten com. are hidden in there.

You have to rightly divide the truth.
Seriously, you don't see it? I will go through when I get a chance. Kids bedtime.
 

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The Babylonian language was in use hundreds of years before the Hebrew race was founded
by Abraham. That language designated the seventh day of the week as “sa-ba-tu”,

meaning [rest day] and is another indisputable proof that the Bible Sabbath was not and is not
exclusively Jewish. Very few realize that the word Sabbath and the concept of resting from work
on the seventh day of the week (Saturday) is common to most of the ancient and modern languages
of the world, which dates back to Babel in Genesis chapter 11.

Sun worship infects ancient Israel

In the ancient world, ‘sun worship’ was one of the most common forms
of pagan idolatry. Immediately after Israel left Egypt,

God warned His people against being “driven to worship ... the sun.”
Deuteronomy 4:19.

Yet Israel later yielded to temptation, compromised with the nations around
them, and dedicated their “horses ... to the sun.” 2 Kings 23:11.

During a time of revival, King Josiah purged much of Israel and
“burned the chariots of the sun with fire.” 2 Kings 23:11.

Before the Babylonian captivity, many Israelite leaders rejected their Creator,
yielded again to idolatry, and “worshipped the sun toward the east.” Ezekiel 8:16.

At the same time, God declared that they “hid their eyes from My Sabbaths.”
Ezekiel 22:26.

Thus ancient Israel shifted from Sabbath keeping to sun worship.
In 1 Corinthians 10:1-11, Paul warned the Church against repeating
the sins of ancient Israel.
 
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We already know our eschatology views don't match and that would be another thread by itself.

I will address the passages by saying I believe they are talking about the present age and not a future earthly millennium. I also believe the "feast of tabernacle" refers to the Holy spirit living within us.

Not something you are gonna agree with
 

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Seriously, you don't see it?
I will go through when I get a chance. Kids bedtime.
you posted Matt. 6: as referance, I did not see it there in chapter 6, sorry
 
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Not something you are gonna agree with
Yes you are right, I do not believe Christ is ruling the nations with a rod of iron.
People would be blind if they believe this. He might rule in our hearts,
but not yet this age, and these worlds kingdoms going on around us.
Please show verses how the "feast of tabernacle" means the indwelling of the spirit.


Flesh and blood can not inherit the Kingdom of God.
 
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Sorry...I spend most of my time reading the Bible and not ancient Babylonian texts...

I worship God every day and find my rest in Him.
 

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We already know our eschatology views don't match and that would be another thread by itself.

I will address the passages by saying I believe they are talking about the present age and not a future earthly millennium. I also believe the "feast of tabernacle" refers to the Holy spirit living within us.

Not something you are gonna agree with

So no bible verses given, just your view? ok.
So you are saying today "all flesh" worships God?
That would be so far from the truth, like east from the west.
So today all are given the holy spirit?
 
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Unfortunately the Mainstream Preachers of Paul's time were still pushing their version of these Levitical Priesthood "Works of the Law" for justification or remission of sins. These Jews were "bewitching" the Galatians with these religious traditions they called "The Law of Moses".

It was these Jews Paul was addressing.
Studydude, why does Paul in his epistle to the Galatians, speaking by the Spirit of God, constantly and consistently refer to the Law found in the penteteuch, the law given directly by God to the nation Israel as a marriage contract covenant at Sinai, if what the Spirit of God 'really meant to say' was 'not really any actual law from God but only imaginary laws made by the Pharisee that God never gave anyone'?

If Paul is writing about being free from fake law that was never law in the sight of God, ever, why does he only actually talk about God's actual law as given through Moses by God's own mouth? What's so great about being set free from imaginary laws we have never, ever been under and God would never hold anyone to account for in the first place?

Is it not so that you yourself change - by your own human tradition seeking to be justified by a law of works - the scripture when it says 'law' to 'gotta be imaginary traditions of Pharisees definitely the Bible doesn't mean law when it says law, at least not when it says the believer is free from law good grief what kind of grace is this anyway, wondrous? No way' ?


You make a lot of sense when I don't think at all.
But the second I turn my brain on....

You really need to think things through, IMHO - and when you do, I believe you will find that thankfulness in my God, and curses will no longer be found in your mouth. My God is faithful and He will do it: gonna be great just you wait :)
 
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you posted Matt. 6: as referance, I did not see it there in chapter 6, sorry
Oh it's too long to post Matthew 5-7. I just posted the part about Sabbath rest in the New Covenant. I referenced the entire sermon on the mount...just didn't post it all.
 
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So no bible verses given, just your view? ok.
So you are saying today "all flesh" worships God?
That would be so far from the truth, like east from the west.
So today all are given the holy spirit?
It says if all flesh doesn't then they are given the plagues like in Egypt.

Why post more Bible verses when you seem to have a hard time understanding the ones you already posted?
 
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Clearly nobody here says [you can not] worship every day of the week.
That is not the issue, but working for money [on] the 7th day Sabbath,
or claiming the 8th day is proper when everyone should go to church.
And I say you should work for God every day and meet with believers as often as God allows you to meet and fellowship. Do you have objections to either of those statements? What does it mean to You to keep the Sabbath holy? Do you have Bible verses to support your beliefs and traditions? Do you believe it's a sin Not to keep the weekly sabbath?
Goodness Ariel, the lengths you are going to to close your eyes to scripture is amazing here we are 26+ pages latter. You have not provided a single scripture to support your OP which says; "God's SABBATH should be kept EVERYDAY"

Where in God's WORD does it say God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

IF God's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH is a SINGLE DAY set apart by GOD how can it be EVERYDAY?

You have been shown a ton of scripture that disagrees with you and you choose not to BELIEVE God's WORD neither do you reply to the scriptures that disagree with you. When the scriptures are presented to you, you make up stories and skirt about what people are trying to share with you (this post reply to prove-all a good example).

We should do God's WORK everyday but God's 4th Commandment is about rest and NOT doing and uneccessary secular, buesiness or domestic WORK. You try and avoid this fact by saying we should work for God everyday which has nothing to do with what prove-all and others are sharing with you from God's WORD.

You do indeed have no scripture for your belief and teach against the law and the prophets. Something that Jesus and the Apostles never did.

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Now please where are your scriptures that support your OP?

Where does it say in God's WORD as you claim that God's SABBATH is EVERYDAY?

Where does it say in God's WORD that God's 4th Commandment has been ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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It says if all flesh doesn't then they are given the plagues like in Egypt.

Why post more Bible verses when you seem to have
a hard time understanding the ones you already posted?
It says all flesh , from one new moon to another, from one Sabbath to another.
You seem to not believe or see, and understand what the bible tells you.

Lets see you just explain all these verses below away,
and tell us your version, and say God did not mean what he says.

"Thy Kingdom come" The Good news of the coming Kingdom of God to earth.
After human misrule causes great tribulation that almost wipes out civilization,

The living Christ is coming as “King of kings and Lord of lords” (Revelation 19:11-21),
to put down the rebellion of warring nations (Revelation 17:14), and establish God’s
world-ruling government over all nations (Daniel 2:44; 7:9, 13-14, 18, 22, 27; Isaiah 9:7).

He went away (to heaven) to be coronated, and to return to Earth (Luke 19:12-27).
He will then be on the Earth—Zechariah 14:3-4, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (Nahum 1:5)
“We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come;
because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned” (Revelation 11:17)
“The mountains quake at him, and the hills [will] melt…” (Nahum 1:5), (Rev. 16:18)

-The seventh angel sounds-Kingdoms of current world become Christs (Rev 11:15)
Will commit thy government into his hand, established with judgement and jutice.
(Isaiah 22:21) Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end,
upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom,...(Isaiah 9:7)

Beginning of that rule and world government “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them,
and judgment was given unto them…and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years”
(Revelation 20:4).(Isaiah 11:2-4) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall
separate them one from another,...Matthew 25:32


-A Kingdom appointed to the saints , made rulers over some cities.
the glorified saints of God made perfect,cities will be ruled by spirit beings.

Jesus said: “And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will
I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron…” (Rev 2:26-27).
And again, “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne [on this Earth]”
(Revelation 3:21; Luke 1:32-33). And, “…we shall reign on the earth” (Revelation 5:10).

And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;(Luke 22:29)
Some resurrected saints will rule over 10 cities, some over five (Luke 19:12-19)
Saints shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, (Daniel 7:18)
We shall inherit the earth. (Psalms 25:13-22:26, 37:9, 22,29) not flesh and blood.

It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name
of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there. (Ezekiel 48:35)


17At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and
all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem:
neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go
no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city
of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God:
and I will write upon him my new name.

And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt
be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. (Isaiah 62:2)

-Jerusalem, the future headquarters city of the Earth (Haggai 2:6-8)
-Land Beneath Sea Reclaimed, converted to Jerusalem(Isaiah 60:5, 11:15).
World’s gold and silver reserves under the seas for beautiful decorations there.
-Gods latter house shall be greater than of the former (Haggai 2:9)
-Jerusalem is uniquely describes as being “compact together,” tall 122:3

-Desolate land shall be tilled - will be like the garden of Eden (Ezekiel 36:34-35)
-Build the waste cities-fresh produce-drink there own wine-farming (Amos 9:14)
-Waste cities “filled with flocks of men” being very social(Ezekiel 36:36-37-38)
-Superhighways between major cities (Isaiah 19:23)

-Cities being crime-free , dwell safely-none be made afried (Ezekiel 34:28-Micah 4:4)
-No more Violence, nor wasting, nor destruction (Isaiah 60:18)
-Cities overflow with prosperity (Zechariah 1:17) -Equitable property distribution
- every man shall own his vine and fig tree (Micah 4:4-Lev25) and

-“Joy and gladness-thanksgiving-the voice of melody(Isaiah 51:3)(Jeremiah 33:10-11)
-Where old men and old women dwell -full of boys and girls playing (Zechariah 8:4-5)
-No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up (Isaiah 35:9 )
-There will be Shepherds and local animal husbandry (Jer. 33:12)

-Pure Water—Fertile Deserts where trees grow (Isaiah 35)
-No more hunger-He will raise up a plant of renown (Ezekiel 34:29)
-A new sharp threshing instrument -the mountains made small(Isaiah 41:14-16)
-If any thrist and seek water, the God of Israel will not forsake them. (ver 17-18)

Trees planted and growing-consider and understand that the [Eternal] hath
done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it” . (verse 19-20)

--All will speak the same language, a pure language from God (Zephaniah 3:9).
God will also destroy the idols, Ezekiel 30:13, Micah 5:10-15, Zechariah 13:2

Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst
of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands.


The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. (Isaiah 14:7)
All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name.
Psalms 66:4 -God has spoken it, and He is not one to go back on His word (Isaiah 55:11)
 
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You see it's not a DAY that advances knowledge but the presence of the HOLY SPIRIT.
similarly when the Spirit says "you are not under law, but grace" you would think that if you are correct, He would have said "you are not under some of the Law but definitely under the 10 commandments, and various other parts of the Law like no tattoos and and love your neighbor and do not vote democrat, and also grace, sort of, but not really because you are actually under Law - in fact not under grace at all because if by works, grace is no longer grace - yes you are actually under Law, forget i said anything about grace" but that's not what the scripture says. it says put away the slave woman, because you are sons of freedom.
God does not give his Spirit to those that disobey him and turn from his WORD to break his Commandments. Those who do so do not KNOW God and are yet to receive his Spirit because his Spirit is Holy. If your faith has not made you Holy you do not KNOW God. This is the difference between the children of God and the children of the Devil (SIN)

Acts 5:32, And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to them that obey him.


God's Spirit is the Spirit of truth. He comes to all those that are in sin and those that BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD.



To those who are in SIN he comes to convict of the truth. But not all will hear him and by rejecting God's Word we can grieve him so that you will no longer hear him.

To those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD he lives IN them and testifies of God's WORD.


HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE GOD'S SPIRIT


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CONDITIONS FOR RECEIVING GOD'S SPIRIT

We must BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. What does God's Word say?

Act 2:38
Then Peter said to them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Act 3:19
Repent you therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord.

Act 8:22
Repent therefore of this your wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you.

Act 17:30

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men every where to repent:

Act 26:20
But showed first to them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

1 John 1:9,
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

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We GRIEVE God's SPIRIT by SIN (UNBELIEF and BREAKING GOD'S COMMANDMENTS)

Genesis 6
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And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
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And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it GRIEVED HIM AT HIS HEART.
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And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repents me that I have made them.

Eph 4:30

And GRIEVE NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT of God, whereby you are sealed to the day of redemption.

Pslams 95
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Forty years long was I GRIEVED with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways:
11, To whom I swore in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.

Hebrews 3
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Why I was GRIEVED with that generation, and said, They do always err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11, So I swore in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.

17, BUT WHOM WAS HE GRIEVED FORTY YEARS? WAS IT NOT WITH THEM THAT HAD SINNED, whose carcasses fell in the wilderness?
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And to whom swore he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
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So we see that they could not enter in because of UNBELIEF.

Psa 119:158

I BEHELD THE TRANSGRESSORS AND WAS GRIEVED; because they kept not your word.

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HOW DO YOU KNOW IF YOU KNOW GOD?

1 John 2
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And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 3
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And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
4, Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5, And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6, Whoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.
7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8, He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9, Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10, In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

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WHO ARE GOD'S PEOPLE?

Revelation 12
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And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ

Revelation 14
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Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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WHO ARE THOSE THAT RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE?

Revelation 22
14, Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life,
and may enter in through the gates into the city.

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WHAT IS GRACE FOR?

Romans 1
5, By whom we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name.


Romans 6
1, What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. 2, How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

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DOES FAITH ABOLISH GOD'S LAW?

Romans 3
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Do we then ABOLISH THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: YES, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW.


WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO CONTINUE IN SIN ONCE THEY RECEIVE A KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH?

Hebrews 10
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For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,
27, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Indeed, those who CONTINUE IN SIN will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

ONLY God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Put a better way - we can't be charged with breaking a law that doesn't have authority over us. Gentiles have been and never will be under the authority of the law of Moses. Even if they were, those in Christ are dead to the law of Moses. Law exerts no authority over dead people. Go try to charge someone lying in a grave with a crime and see how successful you are.
You are only "UNDER THE LAW" if you are guilty of breaking it.

Romans 3
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Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are UNDER THE LAW: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20, Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21, But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22, Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and on all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

God's LAW (10 Commandments) is to give us a KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is and lead us to JESUS (Gal 3:24-25) that we might be justified by FAITH. Not being "UNDER THE LAW" means your no longer under the CONDEMNATION of the LAW because you have been FOGIVEN for your SINS.

IF you are still CONTINUING in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN you do not KNOW GOD because you have rejected his GIFT of SALVATION through his Son and you are still in your SINS.

Romans 2:12
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; ALL who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN WILL be LOST and NOT Enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.


SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN because they are "UNDER THE LAW".

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Grace does not give us license to sin, but not observing the sabbath day is not sin.
God's Sabbath is one of the 10 Commandments spoken by and written on two tables of stone by GOD himself. God's WORD says that ALL the 10 Commandments are a part of the OLD and NEW COVENANTS. Jesus and ALL the Apostles taught this.

NOW where in ALL of God's WORD does it say that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are to keep SUNDAY as a HOLY DAY?

James 2
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If you fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, You shall love your neighbor as yourself, you do well:
9, But if you have respect to persons, you commit sin, and are convicted of the law as transgressors.
10, For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11, For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if you commit no adultery, yet you kill, you are become a transgressor of the law.
12, So speak, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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"each should be fully persuaded in their own mind"


i do not believe we should be judging anyone either because they observe sabbath according to Moses or because they do not. all we are doing is attempting to destroy one another's faith.

we might try we might try lifting Christ up, as the brazen serpent was, instead of quibbling over words and endlessly arguing over law. pretty sure there happen to be NT scriptures about that. :)

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. . so what exactly has He done so that it is possible we may be counted righteous apart from works of the Law, on the basis of belief? if not one jot or tittle of the Sinai covenant is removed how exactly are we made clean without the ashes of a red heifer?

Why you keep trying to quote scripture that have nothing to do with the 4th Commandment is beyond me.

Telling people they are saved by the works of the LAW when they have told you otherwise is deceitful.
 
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If you only dedicate and keep One day Holy to God, what do you do with your other six?
What does God say?

Exodus 20
8,
Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day)
9,
Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work:
10,
But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>
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For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested theSEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.God's 4th Commandment is to keep the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK as a HOLY DAY because his presence is in it for those who BELIEVE;

HOLY here means; קדשׁ; qâdash;kaw-dash' A primitive root; to be (causatively make, pronounce or observe as) clean ceremonially or morally: - appoint, bid, consecrate, dedicate, defile, hallow, (be, keep) holy (-er, place), keep, prepare, proclaim, purify, sanctify (-ied one, self), X wholly.

To OBEY God's 4th Commandment means to BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD and do as God has instructed in his 4th Commandment.

God says;

1. REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY v8
2. THE SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK v10
3. THIS IS A HOLY DAY v8
5. DO NOT WORK IN IT AS IT IS GOD'S DAY AND A DAY OF REST v10; v11
6. THE SABBATH IS SET APART FROM THE REST OF THE WEEK AS A REST DAY NO WORK IS TO BE DONE
7. WORK CAN BE DONE ON ANY OF THE OTHER SIX DAYS.

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You are not keeping ANY DAY HOLY of you are disobeying God's WORD and breaking his Commandments

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
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Seriously Michael just put a link in your signature to your website. It's a lot to scroll past while I ignore you.

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I worship God every day and find my rest in Him.
Yet God says that those who break his Commandments and do not BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD have no rest?

Isaiah 57
20,
But the wicked (SINNERS) are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
21, There is no peace, said my God, to the wicked.

1 John 2
3,
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4, He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him


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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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Sure,
like pointing out to those still in bondage that by Him all that believe are justified from all things, from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses?
I am not quite sure what is more disturbing this post or the people that agreed with it.

Not one person here is saying to anyone that we are saved or justified by keeping God's LAW. We are ONLY saved by GRACE through FAITH and not of ourselves it is a GIFT of GOD and not of WORKS lest any man should boast.

If your FAITH however, does not have the FRUIT of OBEDEINCE then you are still in your SINS because you have not received the Gift of God's dear son and the wages of SIN is death (Romans 6:23; Hebrews 10:26-27)

If your tree has no FRUIT it will be cast down and thrown into the fire (James 2:18; 20; 26; Matt 7:12-23; Heb 10:26-27)

Many try and use GRACE and FAITH as an excuse as a liscence to SIN (Break any of God's Commandments) yet it is God's WORD that says...

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WHAT IS GRACE FOR?

Romans 1
5, By whom we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name.

Romans 6
1, What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. 2, How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

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DOES FAITH ABOLISH GOD'S LAW?

Romans 3
31,
Do we then ABOLISH THE LAW THROUGH FAITH? GOD FORBID: YES, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW.

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IS GOD'S LAW BONDAGE OR SIN

John 8

32, And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33, They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in BONDAGE to any man: how say you, You shall be made free?
34, Jesus answered them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Whoever commits sin is the servant of sin.
35, And the servant stays not in the house for ever: but the Son stays ever.
36, If the Son therefore shall make you free, you shall be free indeed.

Romans 6
16,
Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?
17, But God be thanked, that you were the servants of sin, but you have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18, Being then made free from sin, you became the servants of righteousness.
19, I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as you have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity to iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness to holiness.
20, For when you were the servants of sin, you were free from righteousness.
21, What fruit had you then in those things whereof you are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22, But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23, For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. No, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, You shall not covet.

11, For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
12, Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13, Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.
14, For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Romans 3
19,
Now we know that what things soever the law said, it said to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20,
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

CONCLUSION:BONDAGE being referred to in God's WORD is not God's LAW (10 Commandments) it is SIN which is breaking God's LAW.

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4)

Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

................

God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12).

If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if
we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.

Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
 
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