Crucifixion Day

Enoch987 · Mar 24, 2018

The "error" of John 12 saying that Jesus was anointed 6 days before Passover assumes day 12 of 18 days (True or False). Day 12 of Matthew and Mark follow the 14 day count from the first day of the third month given by God to Moses.
But 2 days before Passover is day 16 on John's calendar. It seems like an error.

Rabbis say that when there seems to be an error, it's worth investigating.

After Noah's 601st birthday, Genesis 8:13, there were 57 days until Noah left the ark on the 27th day in the 2nd month of Noah's 601st year. The season's were set so Noah could plant a vineyard. I assume it was spring so I conclude that Noah's birthday is on New Year's day, the same New Year's day that starts counting the 61 days until the first day of the 3rd month.

Chuck Missler found the plural Sabbaths in Matthew 28:12, Mary went to the Tomb after the Sabbaths.
The International Version of the Bible translates Sabbaths into their Bible.

Enoch987 · Mar 24, 2018

Noose said:

I'd like to know the point you are hinting at. Wasn't Jesus crucified at 12 noon and his death shortly before the ninth hour of the day (what we call 3 pm).
I propose that Jesus was exactly 35 and 5/7th years old at his death so his birthday would have been 2/7th of a year later which is 102 and 6/7th days after Passover at around 11:30 am on the 117th day of the Jewish year.
Since he was born about 36 years before, he would have been born in the 447th year of Daniel's 69 periods of 7 in what we call 5 BC in the middle of July.
Hidden in scripture Joshua 7:3-5 "from 3000, about 36 are killed" and the 120 year prophecy given about the time of Noah begetting Shem, Ham and Japheth. When Japheth is 120, Shem is 117. Shem's 3rd of 5 son, Arpaxad is 17.
My take on Genesis 6:3," My Spirit will not always strive with man. His days will be 120 years." (Jesus will be born on the 117th day and resurrected on the 17th.)
The math is derived from the crown of life ratio/proportion of Rev. 2:10 compared to the big story of Revelation but specifically 10,000/3.5 divided by 80 = 35 and 5/7.

WebersHome · Mar 24, 2018

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Maybe others don't believe them; but for me, the scriptures below are very
conclusive that Christ's crucified dead body returned to life on the third day
rather than after the third day was over and one with.

● Matt 17:22-23 . . Jesus said unto them: The Son of man shall be betrayed
into the hands of men: and they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be
raised again.

● Mark 9:31 . . He taught his disciples, and said unto them: The Son of man
is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he
is killed, he shall rise the third day.

● Luke 24:21-23 . .We trusted that it had been he which should have
redeemed Israel: and beside all this, today is the third day since these
things were done. Yea, and certain women also of our company made us
astonished, which were early at the sepulcher; and when they found not his
body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which
said that he was alive.

● Luke 24:46 . . He said unto them: Thus it is written, and thus it behoved
Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day

● Acts 10:40 . . God raised him up the third day

● 1Cor 15:4 . . he rose again the third day

It would take a pretty clever amalgam of sophistry and double speak to
make those passages say that Christ rose from the dead on any other day
but the third.

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Shamah · Mar 24, 2018

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Hizikyah said:

When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect? I would like to use Scripture to show the timeline. Anyone who agrees or disagrees is welcome to give your view, I ask that Scripture is also used to supplement it. Thank you!

2 Timothy 2:15, “Study to show yourself approved to YHWH: a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is righteous.”

Hosea 4:6, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me..”

There are many things we are told that we willingly accept without studying to see if they are true or not. The apostle Paul told us to do our homework and YHWH told us if we do not do our homework we will get destruction. Scripture is Scripture and truth is truth. Today I want to focus on a very simple truth that nearly the whole world has got very, very wrong.

When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?

Now most people already are thinking “I know the answer to this I don’t need to study this.” If you think this you may be the person this was meant for. So the first thing we must understand is what makes up a day. A day is a 24 hour period, but it is not midnight to midnight. That is the Gregorian (Roman) calendar that has only been in use since 1582, enacted by Pope Gregory XIII and was a reform of the Julian calendar. It is based on solar cycles and has its origins in Greek, Egyptian, and Babylonian history; all these are in opposition to YHWH and His calendar. To understand what a day consists of according to the Creator of all that is, we need to look at a few verses;

Berĕshith/Genesis 1:5, " And Yah called the light ‘day’ and the darkness He called ‘night.’ And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the first day."

Exodus 12:18, "In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, in the evening, you shall eat unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month in the evening."

Leviticus 23:32, "It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”

"evening" is word # H6153. ereb - Strong's Concordance: ereb: evening, Original Word: עָ֫רֶב, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: ereb, Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-reb), Short Definition: evening

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) -
1) evening, night, sunset, 1a) evening, sunset, 1b) night
By the Creator’s calendar the days begin and end when the sun goes down, not at “12 midnight.” Thus 1 day is sunset to sunset. An interesting side note is the day “April fools,” this day got its name in France, there were people who still kept the Creator’s calendar and not the Roman calendar. The Creator’s year starts and ends around April (not what we call New Year’s Eve, which is actually Saturnalia, the pagan worship of Saturn), so the people who still kept the true calendar were called fools, and eventually this turned into April Fools Day, how nice?) So I know the Creator’s calendar takes a little getting used to, as we have kept a different calendar all our lives. But this is the first step to understand when the Messiah was put in the grave and when He resurrected. I am going to use the illustrations below to depict YHWH’s days; first night, then day.

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Leviticus 23:32, "It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”

Now there is a rabbinical/Pharisaic teaching that says any part of a day can be reckoned as a day. Fist off this is not based in Scripture but made up by man, the same types that Yahshua/Jesus said rejected Yah for their own tradition;

Mat 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them; And why do you transgress the Laws of YHWH by your traditions?"

I find it odd that many Christians use the rabbinical/Pharisaic reckoning of a day to prove their Resurrection timeline as they were opponents of the Messiah and they were not based in Biblical truth but man made traditions. So again, according to YHWH Creator of the Heavens and Earth, a day is sunset to sunset. It is also worth pointing out that Yahshua/Jesus said;

Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

Mat 12:39-40, “But He answering, said to them, “A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Yonah. For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

So it is the only sign of the true Messiah and He said, “three days and three nights” I don’t see how Yahshua could have gotten this wrong or used the rabbinical reckoning of a day when He spoke against nearly everything they did, especially their tradition that “nullified” the ways of the Creator. So with this in mind lets consider what is commonly accepted a “Good Friday to Easter Sunday” Resurrection;

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But there is one problem with this view that is most commonly taught, “Good Friday to Easter Sunday” resurrection, by the words of the Messiah Himself this can not be true;

Mat12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

There is no possible way to get three days and three nights out of Friday to Sunday. It is 2 nights and one day at most. Most people, myself included are so used to the Roman calendar that it is hard to understand the Creator’s calendar and so it is confusing. I had to go over it a few times to get it myself. For it to be three days and three nights the Messiah would have had to resurrect on Monday right before the sun went down, scripture shows us this did not happen that way either. So when one realizes that Fri-Sun is not possible, a few questions arise; Where does Easter Sunday come from? If the Messiah did not resurrect on Sunday, why are we told the Sabbath has been changed to Sunday, to honor the resurrection? But before we get to that, lets study this out.

Shamah · Mar 24, 2018

Hizikyah said:

John 13:1, “And before the Festival of the Passover, יהושע knowing that His hour had come that He should move out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.” TS 2009

John 13:1, “Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.” ESV

John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.” TS 2009

John 19:31, “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” NKJV

John 19:31, ‘The Jews therefore, because it was the Preparation, that the bodies should not remain on the cross upon the sabbath (for the day of that sabbath was a high day)” ASV

John 19:31, ‘Since it was the day of Preparation, and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” ESV

John 19:31, “Then the Jews, because it was the day of preparation, so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” NASU

Mark 15:42, “15:42, "And when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath.” TS 2009

Mark 15:42, "And when evening had come, since it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath," ESV

Mark 15:42, "And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath," RNKJV

Mark 15:42, "And now evening having come, seeing it was the preparation, that is, the fore-sabbath," YLT

Most people read this and say, “well Sabbath is Saturday, so this had to be Friday.” But notice the scriptures say “High Holy Day Sabbath” or “for that Sabbath was a high day”

What is a “High Holy Day Sabbath” or “for that Sabbath was a high day”?

Leviticus 23:24 & 32, “Speak to the children of Israyl, saying; In the Seventh Moon (or month), on the First (day) of the Moon, you shall have a Sabbath, a Memorial of Blowing of Trumpets; The Feast of Trumpets, a Holy Convocation.” 32, “It is to you a Sabbath of rest, and you shall afflict yourselves. On the Ninth (day) of the Moon at evening; at the setting of the sun, through the Tenth of the Moon at evening; at the setting of the sun, from evening until evening, you shall celebrate your Sabbath.”

These are the “High Holy Day Sabbath(s)” or “for that Sabbath was a high day(s)”, unlike weekly Sabbaths these Days can fall on any day of the week, where the weekly Sabbath is on the 7th day only. So the day Yahshua got sacrificed was the day before a Sabbath Day, and Scripture clearly shows us it was a High Sabbath and because High Sabbaths can fall on any day, this shows us that it did not have to be a Friday when Yahshua was Sacrificed. We don’t know the day of the week but we do know it was “”

However this in itself does not tell us what day it is or is not. So we must continue.

John 19:14, "And it was the Preparation Day of the Pĕsaḥ week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign!” TS 2009

John 19:14, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and as it were the sixth hour, and he saith to the Jews, 'Lo, your king!‘ YLT

John 19:14, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!” KJV

John 19:14, “It was the day of Preparation of Passover Week, about the sixth hour. "Here is your king," Pilate said to the Jews.”
NIV

John 19:14, “Now it was the day of Preparation for the Passover, and it was about the sixth hour (about twelve o'clock noon). He said to the Jews, See, [here is] your King!” AMP

John 19:14-18, “And it was the Preparation Day of the Pĕsaḥ week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign! But they shouted, “Away, away, impale Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I impale your Sovereign?” The chief priests answered, “We have no sovereign except Caesar! At that time, then, he delivered Him to them to be impaled. And they took יהושע and led Him away. And bearing His stake, He went out to the so-called Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha, where they impaled Him, and two others with Him, one on this side and one on that side, and יהושע in the middle.” TS 2009

John 19:14-18, “Now it was the day of Preparation of the Passover. It was about the sixth hour. He said to the Jews, “Behold your King! They cried out, “Away with him, away with him, crucify him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar. So he delivered him over to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus, and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called The Place of a Skull, which in Aramaic is called Golgotha. There they crucified him, and with him two others, one on either side, and Jesus between them.” ESV

John 13:1, “Andbefore the Festival of the Passover, יהושע knowing that His hour had come that He should move out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.” TS 2009

John 13:1, “Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.” ESV

So according to Scripture Yahshua was sacrificed the day before Passover and that “Preparation Day” is the day the Passover Lamb (aka Yahshua) was to be killed;

Leviticus 23:5, “On the Fourteenth of the First Moon, between the two evenings, YHWH's Passover Sacrifice is to be killed.”

That day is the 14th of the first moon or first month, and that is according to YHWH’s calendar not the world’s calendar. The 14th of the first moon or month falls on a different day of the week each year. It is based on the sighting of the new moon so there is no way to make a calendar before, one must wait until the sighting of the new moon.

Mat 27:46-50, “And about the ninth hour (3pm)יהושע cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Yli, Yli, lemah sheḇaqtani?” that is, “My Strength, My Strength, why have You forsaken Me? Some of those standing there, having heard, said, “This One calls Yliyahu! And immediately one of them ran and took a sponge, and filled it with sour wine and put it on a reed, and gave it to Him to drink. But the rest said, “Leave it, let us see if Ĕliyahu comes to save Him. And יהושע cried out again with a loud voice, and gave up His spirit.”

Mark 15:34, “And at the ninth hour (3pm) יהושע cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Yli, Yli, lamah sheḇaqtani?” which is translated, “My Strength, My Strength, why have You forsaken Me?”

Luke 23:44-46, “And it was now about the sixth hour (12noon), and darkness came over all the land, until the ninth hour (3pm). And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the Dwelling Place was torn in two. And crying out with a loud voice, יהושע said, “Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit.” And having said this, He breathed His last.”

Mattithyah12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

John 19:14-15, “And it was the Preparation Day of the Passover week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign! But they shouted, “Away, away, impale Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I impale your Sovereign?” The chief priests answered, “We have no sovereign except Caesar!”

John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.”

Luke 23:52-54, "he, going to Pilate, asked for the body of יהושע. Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb that was hewn out of the rock, where no one had ever lain before. That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near."

So by this time Yahshua has been Sacrificed, His body wrapped and taken to the tomb, yet it is still not yet sundown, but “That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near” and remember it is not the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day weekly Sabbath;

John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one...”

John 19:42, “There, then, because of the Preparation Day of the Yehuḏim, they laid יהושע, because the tomb was near.”

Mat 27:59-66, “And having taken the body, Yosĕph wrapped it in clean linen, and laid it in his new tomb which he had hewn out of the rock. And he rolled a large stone against the door of the tomb, and went away. And Miryam from Maḡdala was there, and the other Miryam, sitting opposite the tomb. On the next day, which was after the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees gathered together to Pilate, saying, “Master, we remember, while He was still alive, how that deceiver said, ‘After three days I am raised. Command, then, that the tomb be safeguarded until the third day, lest His taught ones come by night and steal Him away, and should say to the people, ‘He was raised from the dead.’ And the last deception shall be worse than the first. So Pilate said to them, “You have a watch, go, safeguard it as you know how. And they went and safeguarded the tomb, sealing the stone and setting the watch.”

So it is the day after the Preparation (High Sabbath) and the chief priests and Pharisees asked Pilate, saying, “Master, we remember, while He was still alive, how that deceiver said, ‘After three days I am raised. Command, then, that the tomb be safeguarded until the third day.”

Mark 16:1, "And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him."

Luke 23:56, “And having returned, they prepared spices and perfumes. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the command.”

The women prepare “spices and perfumes” and “rested on the Sabbath according to the command”

Mark 16:1-2, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.”

Here we see the women going to His tomb after the Sabbath day, this is the weekly 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day Sabbath, as there is no distinction that it is a High Sabbath and it also say they arrived “very early on the first day of the week” (Sunday).

Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

Luke 24:1, “And on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared.”

John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”

So remember the Creator’s days do not start and end at 12 midnight, but sundown, so the weekly Sabbath (Friday sundown to Saturday sundown) was over they arrived “on the first day of the week” “while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb” So when the sun goes down on the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day they go to sleep, wake up early and go to the tomb to find that Yahshua is already gone. So if He was put in the tomb before sundown on the Preparation Day. Was in the tomb three days and three nights, as He said was the only true sign of the Messiah. The women show up on the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day of the week before sunrise and He is already gone. We have to calculate three days and three nights, sundown to sundown from the time He was Sacrificed and the put in the tomb; before sundown on the Preparation Day.

Luke 23:53, “And taking it down, he wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb hewn out of the rock, where no one was yet laid. And it was Preparation day, and the Sabbath was approaching.”

The day after the Preparation day, the day that the Passover Sacrifice (Yahshua) is to be killed, is the first day of “the Festival of Unleavened Bread” and this is a rest day; “On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work”

Leviticus 23:5-7, “On the Fourteenth of the First Moon, between the two evenings, YHWH's Passover Sacrifice is to be killed. And on the fifteenth day of this new moon is the Festival of Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread. On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.”

When we consider all the Scriptural facts, I know it is a lot, but when we include all of the proof. Including His statement of 3 days and 3 nights, the Creator’s way, not measured by rabbinic or pharisee calculation; We have Yahshua Sacrificed on the Preparation Day and placed in the tomb before sundown, a rest day on the first Day of Unleavened Bread (1st full day sundown to sundown), the second full day (2nd full day sundown to sundown), then the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day weekly Sabbath (3rd full day sundown to sundown). We are only left with one possibility;

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Shamah · Mar 24, 2018

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Hizikyah said:

This is three days and three nights exactly. This is the timeline of Yahshua’s sacrifice and resurrection. It is very simple to understand but our minds have been bombarded with so many lies the truth seems to have been lost from most believers. If you are reading this it may be that you are one that is to be pulled out of mystery Babylon by YHWH. Also if this information is new to you, I have to respectfully say you need to do much study as if you were misled on something this basic what else have you been misled about. I also want to firmly say anyone (pastor, preacher, etc.) who teaches Good Friday to Easter Sunday is not teaching YHWH’s truth, but is teaching lies, and we know who lies come from.

Mat 12:39-40, “But He answering, said to them, “A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Yonah. For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

John 13:1, “And before the Festival of the Passover, יהושע knowing that His hour had come that He should move out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.”

Leviticus 23:5, “On the Fourteenth of the First Moon, between the two evenings, YHWH's Passover Sacrifice is to be killed.”

1 Corinthians 5:7-8, “Therefore, purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new batch, since you are unleavened. For truly Yahshua our Passover was sacrificed for us. Therefore, let us keep the Feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.”

John 20:17, "יהושע said to her, “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Strength and your Strength.”

Why is it when Mary/Miryam tries to touch Yahshua He says: “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father”

John 20:18, "Miryam from Maḡdala came announcing to the taught ones that she had seen the Master, and that He had told her this."

Then Miryam leaves Yahshua and goes and tells the disciples what happened, leaving Yahshua alone.

John 20:24-27, "But T’oma (Thomas), called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when יהושע came, so the other disciples said to him, “We have seen the Master.” But he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the mark of the nails, and put my finger into the imprint of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I shall by no means believe. And after eight days His taught ones were again inside, and T’oma with them. יהושע came, the doors having been shut, and He stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you! Then He said to T’oma, “Bring your finger here, and see My hands. And bring your hand and put it into My side – and do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

Here, eight days later, He tells T’oma to touch Him, but when Miryam tried to touch Him He did not allow her. Why could Miriam not touch Him but Thomas could? What happened between this time period of these 2 incidents?

The reason for this is understood in something called the Fest of Firstfruits. It is one of the Moadim or Feast Days of YHWH. In which the entire woks of Messiah from His Sacrifice and Resurrection to His return as the conquering Lion and Rulership over all is laid out in perfect prophetic shadow pictures.

1 Corinthians 15:20-23, “But now Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first-fruit of those having fallen asleep. For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a Man. For as all die in Aḏam, so also all shall be made alive in Messiah . And each in his own order: Messiah the first-fruits, then those who are of Messiah at His coming,”

“first-fruits” is word #G536 - ἀπαρχή aparche: the beginning of a sacrifice, i.e. the first fruit, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine - Transliteration: aparché - Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ar-khay') - Short Definition: the first-fruits, Definition: the first-fruits, the earliest crop of the year, hence also met., for example, of the earliest converts in a district; there is evidence in favor of rendering in some passages merely by: sacrifice, gift.

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) to offer firstlings or firstfruits, 2) to take away the firstfruits of the productions of the earth which was offered to God. The first portion of the dough, from which sacred loaves were to be prepared. Hence term used of persons consecrated to God for all time, 3) persons superior in excellence to others of the same class

Leviticus 23:10-11, “to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them, ‘When you come into the land which I give you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before יהוה, for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it."

In the Fest of First-Fruits the Priest “On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it”

That is why when the women came to the tomb;

John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”

Yahshua did not let Himself be touched;

John 20:17, "יהושע said to her, “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Strength and your Strength.”

He had not yet ascended to YHWH to present Himself as the First-Fruits to YHWH;

Leviticus 23:10-11, “...the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before יהוה, for your acceptance...”

Ephesians 4:9-10, “But what does “He went up” mean, except that He also first went down into the lower parts of the earth? He who went down is also the One who went up far above all the heavens, to fill all.”

John 3:10-13, "יהושע answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Yisra’yl, and do not know this? Truly, truly, I say to you, We speak what We know and witness what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. If you do not believe when I spoke to you about earthly matters, how are you going to believe when I speak to you about the heavenly matters? And no one has gone up into the heaven except He who came down from the heaven – the Son of Aḏam.”

Colossians 1:15, "He is the image of the invisible Father, the firstborn of all creation."

Colossians 1:18, "For He is the Head of the body, the called out ones, Who is the beginning of the firstborn from the dead, so that in all things He may have the pre-eminence."

Revelation 1:5, "And from Yahshua Messiah, the faithful witness, and the firstborn from the dead, and the Ruler of future kings of the earth. To Him Who loved us and freed us from our sins by His own blood."

Leviticus 23:17, “Bring from your dwellings for a wave offering two loaves of bread, of two-tenths of an ĕphah of fine flour they are, baked with leaven, first-fruits to יהוה.”

“first-fruits” is word #H1061 בִּכּוּר bikkuwr (bik-koor') n-m., the first-fruits of the crop., [from H1069], KJV: first fruit (-ripe (figuratively)), hasty fruit., Root(s): H1069

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Noose · Mar 24, 2018

Enoch987 said:

That calculation is too much for me and issues around the 14th day of the month or the 447th year of this and that are just too complicated. My point is, counting of days then was not as it is today- the Jewish day was evening and morning and evening was at 3pm and morning was at 3am, so a day started at 3pm and ended at 3pm the following day.
The crucifixion accounts of John & Mark differ by 3 hours, one says Jesus was crucified at the 3rd hour and another at the 6th hour showing very clearly that two timing systems were at play here. It makes sense- according to the Jewish system, Jesus was crucified at the 6th hour which if counted from 3am would be 9am in the morning, And the Roman system which shows Jesus was crucified at the 3rd hour of the day because their days ran from 6am to 6am the following day.
So Jeus was actually crucified at 9am in the morning and died at 3pm in the evening. Using this manner of counting, we get 3 days and 3 nights starting Wednesday evening which we would actually call Thursday today.

Shamah · Mar 24, 2018

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]By all 4 accounts He had already Resurrected before the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day/ Sunday[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 28:1-6, "”But late in the sabbath, as it was dawning into day one of the week, Miryam from Maḡdala and the other Miryam came to see the tomb. And see, there was a great earthquake, for a messenger of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]came down out of heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. And his appearance was like lightning, and his garments as white as snow. And the guards trembled for fear of him, and became like dead men. And the messenger responding, said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]who was impaled. He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Master lay.”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]it was dawning into day one of the week”...“He is not here, for He was raised”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:1-6, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who shall roll away the stone from the entrance of the tomb for us?” And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, for it was extremely large. And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here! See the place where they laid Him.”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]very early on day one of the week”...“He was raised – He is not here”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 24:1-3, “But on day one of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. And having entered, they did not find the body of the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]on day one of the week, at early dawn”...“they did not find the body of the Master [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]on the first day of the week”...“the stone had been removed from the tomb”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:1-8, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who shall roll away the stone from the entrance of the tomb for us? And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, for it was extremely large. And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here! See the place where they laid Him. And go, say to His taught ones, and Kĕpha, that He is going before you into Galil. You shall see Him there as He said to you. And they went out and fled from the tomb, and were trembling and bewildered. And they spoke to no one, for they were afraid."[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]As we see here “when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week,.. they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here!”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day/Sunday morning Yahshua/Jesus was already risen and gone, then why does Mark say “Jesus rose early on the first day of the week” Mark 16:1-8 just said He was already resurrected and gone by then:[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mark 16:9[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]New International Version[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]New Living Translation[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]After Jesus rose from the dead early on Sunday morning, the first person who saw him was Mary Magdalene, the woman from whom he had cast out seven demons.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]English Standard Version[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Now when he rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]King James Bible[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Why? Because verses Mark 16:9–20 are not included in some of the earliest surviving Greek copies of Mark and have significant stylistic differences from the rest of Mark’s Gospel.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Added verse Mark 16:9, "And having risen early on the first day of the week He appeared first to Miryam from Maḡdala, from whom He had cast out seven demons.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]If v9-20 are authentic then the other 3 Gospels have it wonrg, if v9-20 are added all Gospels are in unity.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers; (Mark 16:9-20) Now when Jesus was risen early.—See Notes on Matthew 28:16-20. The history of the verses that follow is in every way remarkable. They are not found in two of the oldest MSS.—the Sinaitic and the Vatican—are marked as doubtful in many others, and are wanting in some versions. In some of these (e.g., in the Vatican MS.) there is a blank space left between Mark 16:8 and the beginning of St. Luke, as though the writer had suspended his work and waited for materials. The absence was noticed by Jerome, who says that “nearly all the Greek texts omit them.” Eusebius states the same fact as true of “the correct MSS.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Scofield Reference Notes, 1917 Edition: The passage from verse 9 to the end is not found in the two most ancient manuscripts, the Sinaitic and Vatican, and others have it with partial omissions and variations. But it is quoted by Irenaeus and Hippolytus in the second or third century. [/FONT]

Deade · Mar 24, 2018

You argue the resurrection was on a Sunday, but it was actually on a Saturday evening. Christ was buried just before sundown: and 3 days/3 nights add up to a sundown resurrection. Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday. The Romans said it was Friday because of the sundown Sabbath was approaching. But it says in John 19:14: it was the preparation day (crucifixion day) which is the day before the annual Sabbath of the First Day of Unleavened Bread. Ask any Jew what the preparation day is. Three days and three nights raises Him on Saturday evening. He had already risen by early Sunday. John 20:1: "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre."

Jesus was talking with Mary saying he had not ascended to His Father yet: John 20:16-18: "Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.”

Jesus Appears to the Disciples

John 20:19: “Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.”

Later that same day He appeared to His disciples and they could touch Him. So, we can say for sure the ascension was on Sunday. We are given a picture of His ascension as the wave sheath day: [look up wave sheath day for yourself] when the first fruits were waved before God as a tribute. This was always done on the first Sunday after Passover.

MarcR · Mar 24, 2018

Bladerunner said:

Abib (Nisan) 14 is ALWAYS the Passover. in the year 28 A.D., when Jesus was crucified, it occurred on Wednesday night and Thursday.
Abib 15 is always a Levitical Sabbath. Thursday night and Friday were 1 night and 1 day.
Friday night Saturday (Abib 16) were 2 nights and 2 days.
After sundown Saturday Jesus was raised ON the third day.

Matt 16:21
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
KJV
Matt 17:22-23
22 And while they abode in Galilee, Jesus said unto them, The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men:
23 And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
KJV

Matt 20:19
19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again.
KJV

Mark 9:31
31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.
KJV

Mark 10:34
34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.
KJV

Luke 9:22
22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
KJV

Luke 9:22
22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.
KJV

Acts 10:40
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
KJV

1 Cor 15:3-4
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
KJV

It was necessary that Jesus rise on the first day of the week, on Firstfruits.

Lev 23:4-11
4 These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord's passover.
6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
9 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
KJV

1 Cor 15:20
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
KJV

Shamah · Mar 24, 2018

Except Firstfruits has nothing to do with resurrection and everything to do with presenting before YHWH, Yahshua ascende and presented Himself before Yah on Firstfruits..

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 23:10-12, “to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them, ‘When you come into the land which I give you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it. And on that day when you wave the sheaf, you shall prepare a male lamb a year old, a perfect one, as an ascending offering to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT]

“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]ascending” is word #H5930 - olah: ascent, Original Word: [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]עֹלָה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], Part of Speech: Noun Feminine, Transliteration: olah, Phonetic Spelling: (o-law'), Short Definition: ascent[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]In the Fest of First-Fruits the Priest “On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]That is why when the women came to the tomb “On the morrow after the Sabbath”;[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Yahshua was already resurrected and did not allow Himself be touched;[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 20:17, “[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]said to her, “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Strength and your Strength.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]He had not yet ascended to YHWH to present Himself as the First-Fruits to YHWH;[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 23:10-12, “...the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], for your acceptance...a male lamb a year old, a perfect one, as an ascending offering to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[FONT=Times New Roman, serif].”[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 4:9-10, “But what does “He went up” mean, except that He also first went down into the lower parts of the earth? He who went down is also the One who went up far above all the heavens, to fulfill.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 3:10-13, “[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Yisra’yl, and do not know this? Truly, truly, I say to you, We speak what We know and witness what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. If you do not believe when I spoke to you about earthly matters, how are you going to believe when I speak to you about the heavenly matters? And no one has gone up into the heaven except He who came down from the heaven – the Son of Aḏam.”[/FONT]

Deade · Mar 24, 2018

MarcR, this verse pictures the ascension not the resurrection. He was buried just before sundown and resurrected just before sundown.

Jesus was talking with Mary saying he had not ascended to His Father yet: John 20:16-18: “Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.”

John 20:19: “Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.”

Later that same day He appeared to His disciples and they could touch Him. So, we can say for sure the ascension was on Sunday. We are given a picture of His ascension as the wave sheath day: [look up wave sheath day for yourself] when the first fruits were waved before God as a tribute. This was always done on the first Sunday after Passover.

Waggles · Mar 24, 2018

Our Lord God Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday
Let us not swallow the usual Roman Catholic disinformation
and Babylonian heresies.

Wednesday is the middle of the week (7) and represents 3[SUP]1/2[/SUP]
three and a half days

27 And he [Messiah] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
and in the midst of the week [Wednesday] he shall cause the sacrifice
and the oblation to cease, ...
Daniel 9:

Time is important in Biblical prophecy and also in God's Great Week.
3[SUP]1/2 [/SUP]represents significant milestones in the time from Adam to now

3[SUP]1/2[/SUP] thousand years since Moses and the Law
3[SUP]1/2[/SUP] years of Jesus' ministry
on the 3[SUP]1/2[/SUP] day figuratively God was crucified for us
3[SUP]1/2 [/SUP]years after Jesus, Cornelius and his household receive
the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues ... the gospel and
salvation goes out to the gentiles as promised by Jesus.

Fulfilling the prophecy in Daniel 9:27

And he [Messiah] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:

And as it is 3,500 years Moses now is the time for another death and
resurrection > the whole world as we know it.

Waggles · Mar 24, 2018

Beware the leaven of the Papacy and Rome

Calculating the Easter Date
The date of Easter Sunday is usually the first Sunday
after the first Full Moon occurring on or after the March equinox.

Easter Sunday celebrates the Christian belief of Jesus Christ's resurrection.
The Easter date is set around the time of the March Equinox.

Setting the Easter Date
The March equinox coincides with Easter Sunday and holy days
that are related to it.
These holy days do not fall on a fixed date in the Gregorian calendar,
(or the Julian calendar, which is still used by many Orthodox Christian
churches.)

Calendar with holidays
The dates of many Christian holidays depend on the Easter date.
Some of these holidays include:

Palm Sunday
Good Friday
Easter Sunday
Ascension Day
Pentecost/Whitsunday.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall
wear out the saints of the most High,
and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his
hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Daniel 7:

Waggles · Mar 24, 2018

Revelation 11:

9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations
shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not
suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered
into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them
which saw them.

Chester · Mar 24, 2018

I vote for a Wednesday crucifixion. See also a poll I started to see where everyone comes out.

Adstar · Mar 24, 2018

WebersHome said:

In The Bible the day starts at sundown..
Jesus was resurrected at the start of the first day..
The start of the first day is Saturday sunset..
This means Jesus was executed on Wednesday and placed in the tomb at sunset wednesday..

First day in the tomb = Wednesday Night and Thursday Day
Second day in the tomb = Thursday Night and Friday Day
Third day in the tomb = Friday Night and Saturday Day.

Jesus resurrected Saturday at sunset.. which was the beginning of the first day of the week..

MarcR · Mar 24, 2018

Deade said:

The verse standing alone could certainly be understood that way. Let's look at the context:

1 Cor 15:1-20
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.

12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
KJV

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Here we have a positive statement that Jesus was raised ON THE THIRD DAY.

As we look at what follows we see Paul making a case against those who denied the resurrection from the dead.

5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

Witnesses to the resurrection

12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

Philosophical reasons why the resurrection is essential

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

THIS IS A POSITIVE ASSERTION OF THE RESURRECTION concluding Paul's argument

Ascribing it to the Ascension doesn't fit the context.

Bladerunner · Mar 24, 2018

Noose said:

Very simple.

The way they counted days during those days is not the way we count days today. Even during creation, there was morning and evening and that formed a day. The Jewish evening started at 3pm (evening sacrifice) and morning started at 3am (cock's crow).
During Jesus' time, there was also the Romans who had their own timing system- their morning started 6am and evening started 6pm- the reason crucifixion accounts in the gospels differ slightly in time.
If you keep the Jewish system in mind, then Friday can not be Friday as we know it and Sunday not Sunday as we know it.
Yes Jesus died on Friday and rose on sunday and when counted it comes to 3 days and 3 nights.

Would like to see you reference (s) for the 3pm-3 am timing of Jewish days??????????

Bladerunner · Mar 24, 2018

Noose said:

Where did the 3pm, 3am come from,,,I see it NOT???????

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