The Rapture

[Roadkill]

Rev 11: [SUP]19 [/SUP]Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail.

As of 70 AD, the ark of His covenant was in Heaven. God took it. He broke His covenant with apostate Israel, He ended the Law and as such, the apostate Children of Israel would no longer need, or have, His ark. Sorry, so much for your theory.
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Once again you are incorrect. God does not break his covenant no matter what man does on his side of the deal. The Ark is still here and his promises to Israel is still in effect today. As proof, where do you think the 144,000 Israelies in which 12000 from each tribe come from in Revelations? This is not speaking about the church obviously.

 

[Roadkill]

If you were out of your physical body and were able to see it laying there, then you had to be in your spiritual body. By your own testimony, you saw, thus you had eyes. Do disembodied souls have eyes? You simply do not understand the nature of a spirit. When you stepped (floated) out of your body you were already in your spiritual body and in the process of transitioning to the spiritual realm. When you were revived, you re-entered your physical body.

You obviously had a very unique experience. I would be interested to hear more of what you saw and felt.

Funny thing is, I can not claim to have been in another Body because I could not see what form I was in above my own physical body that was laying below. I could not see my feet or hands or anything. Just a vantage point like a third person memory of yourself if you will.

 

[Roadkill]

If you were out of your physical body and were able to see it laying there, then you had to be in your spiritual body. By your own testimony, you saw, thus you had eyes. Do disembodied souls have eyes? You simply do not understand the nature of a spirit. When you stepped (floated) out of your body you were already in your spiritual body and in the process of transitioning to the spiritual realm. When you were revived, you re-entered your physical body.

You obviously had a very unique experience. I would be interested to hear more of what you saw and felt.

Ever had a Third Person memory of yourself in a situation? Most people I know have. How do you explain this? I know the answer but am curious as how you explain it.

 

[Roadkill]

Wrong. There is nothing that states this other than a vague fragmented writing credited to Irenaeus where what he stated was unclear. Instead, we have the

Syriac translation of the Apocalypse has this superscription: "The Revelation which was made by God to John the Evangelist in the Island of Patmos to which he was banished by Nero the Emperor." Most of the Syriac New Testament (known as the "Peshito"), i. e., all the unquestioned books, are supposed to have been translated late in the first century or very early in the second. This actual states who banished John, which Irenaeus doesn't.​

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This has been contentious from the beginning by those trying to disprove what Revelation predicts in the future. You're going to be surprised if you believe this has already occurred. It astounds me that people buy into this. It is on the level of Flat Earthers as Is I see it. By your account, Jesus should already be here physically setting up his 1000 year kingdom here on Earth in Jerusalem. It doesn't make sense, think about it.

 

[Roadkill]

Not reincarnation.

Flesh and blood as rudiments of this corrupted world will have no part in the new incorruptible heavens and earth . Two different creations or Genesis' both created at the foundation when God was working out his work of faith .

Different kinds of flesh for different kind of creations We who have passed from death to eternal life are typified as a new creation we known no man ather the flesh even that of Christ's temporal flesh as the Son of man typified as sinful.The demonstration is over. Corrupted Flesh and blood could never enter the new order.

its our new born again spirit and soul, not seen, that does rise .

But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.1Co 15:35

I think Job confirms we will have new flesh seeing the corrupted has been eaten by worms and also confirms the timing.. the last day .

For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:Job 19:25

I don't buy into the False Doctrine of Reincarnation. What I do believe is that our current bodies resurrect into more powerful bodies that have the ability to transcend to the spiritual world and back into the physical world at will. They are both perfected in that they have no more Sin Curse upon them and they can Transfigure into the Spiritual World at will. But while here on Earth they will be Flesh and Bone. Jesus demonstrated this himself when he popped in on the Disciples in the New Testament. He is the prototype of what our bodies will be like. Never the Less, our current bodies will come forth from the grave no matter the condition or where it lays and become transformed into something much better than what we have now. Like an Acorn that grows into an Oak Tree.

 

[Endoscopy]

Creeds as private interpretations do not define scripture.Scripture defines creeds .Its alway first things first. The word of God has no equal

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.2Pe 1:21

The Catholics love the apostles creed and raise it above that which is written. Their private interpretation as personal commentaries falsy aids to there idea of a succession of apostles. (men following men), comparing themselves to and by themselves .Not comparing themselves to the word of God as the final authority in matter of faith the unseen)

Therefore making the whole word of God without effect by their private interpretations as oral traditions of men .

You could say every man has his own creed like fingerprints .

Its what private revelations as interpretations do give a person a philosophical win win ideology .This is even if they are proven wrong the queen of heavens they call Mary will love them for opening up the air ways to give the illusion God is still adding to His word, as scripture.

Pope Urban VIII on Private Revelations/interpretations

His Holiness, Pope Urban VIII stated: "In cases which concern "private revelations, as interpretations , it is better to believe than not to believe, for, if you believe, and it is proven true, you will be happy that you have believed, because ourHoly Mother asked it. If you believe, and it should be proven false, you will receive all blessings as ifit had been true, "because you believed it to be true."(Pope Urban VIII, 1623-44)

You ignore why the Apostles Creed was created. The elders in the early church were living with differences of opinion about various parts of the scripture and heresies creeping in. To fight heresies and allow differences of opinion on scriptures not central to salvation first the Roman Creed and later updated to the Apostles Creed was created. I defy you to find any non scriptural parts of it. It was worked over from the Roman Creed for over a century to create the Apostles Creed to define what a Christian MUST BELIEVE!

 

[Endoscopy]

Thanks for your kinds words. Daniel was told to "seal the book" (or scroll) in Dan 12:4 and that the book would remain sealed until the time of the end (of Israel) which happened in 70 AD. Christ was the only one found able to unseal the book or scroll in Rev 5:5. John begins Revelation with this:

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, ​

[SUP]2 [/SUP]who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.​

The "servants" that Revelation went out to refers to the 7 churches of Asia Minor of the 0060s AD. The things Jesus reveals through John includes things "which must shortly take place, for the time is near." John was sent to Patmos by Nero after Nero was unsuccessful in killing John in a vat of boiling oil. Thus the visions John was given dealt with events of the first century, up to and including the destruction of Israel from 67-73 AD.
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In Rev 18:24 we see the Harlot "Babylon" (first century Jerusalem) was to be punished for a very specific reason:

And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”

She had be found guilty of killing the prophets and saints. It is these same prophets and saints found under the alter (still in Hades) at the opening of the 5th seal. Jerusalem had been accused of being the Mother of all Harlots since she was betrothed to God as His Bride but instead entered into an adulterous affair with Rome. Jerusalem was guilty of shedding Christ's blood and those who did it said these terrifying and soon to be fulfilled words from Mt 27:

[SUP]25 [/SUP]And all the people answered and said, “His (Jesus') blood be on us and on our children.”

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Indeed, they and their literal children were to soon pay for that. In Acts 26, Paul recounts his actions against the earlier church in Jerusalem like this:
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[SUP]10 [/SUP]This I also did in Jerusalem, and many of the saints I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I cast my vote against them. ​

[SUP]11 [/SUP]And I punished them often in every synagogue and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly enraged against them, I persecuted them even to foreign cities.​

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Yes, the saints of the 5th seal were waiting for vengeance but they would not have to wait much longer because the Presence of the Lord returned to execute His wrath upon that faithless and perverse generation, the worst generation ever known to mankind (according to Titus and Jesus actually).​

Before all of this, Peter at Pentecost in Acts 3, citing Moses, makes this very bold (and accurate) prediction.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. [SUP]23 [/SUP]And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet (Jesus) shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ ​

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[SUP]24 [/SUP]Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also foretold these days.​

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They were in "those days" foretold by all the prophets from Samuel on down to Christ. Before Samuel even, Moses predicted the end of Israel in Deu 28 in an incredibly accurate and detailed way.​

It is time my brothers and sisters in Christ wake up and realize who God was mad at and that they were punished.
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The more you post the more I reject what you post. Remember Bible only. I don't know where you get some of your information from but certainly not the Bible.

 

[Endoscopy]

Thanks for your kinds words. Daniel was told to "seal the book" (or scroll) in Dan 12:4 and that the book would remain sealed until the time of the end (of Israel) which happened in 70 AD. Christ was the only one found able to unseal the book or scroll in Rev 5:5. John begins Revelation with this:

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John, ​

[SUP]2 [/SUP]who bore witness to the word of God, and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, to all things that he saw. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.​

The "servants" that Revelation went out to refers to the 7 churches of Asia Minor of the 0060s AD. The things Jesus reveals through John includes things "which must shortly take place, for the time is near." John was sent to Patmos by Nero after Nero was unsuccessful in killing John in a vat of boiling oil. Thus the visions John was given dealt with events of the first century, up to and including the destruction of Israel from 67-73 AD.
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In Rev 18:24 we see the Harlot "Babylon" (first century Jerusalem) was to be punished for a very specific reason:

And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”

She had be found guilty of killing the prophets and saints. It is these same prophets and saints found under the alter (still in Hades) at the opening of the 5th seal. Jerusalem had been accused of being the Mother of all Harlots since she was betrothed to God as His Bride but instead entered into an adulterous affair with Rome. Jerusalem was guilty of shedding Christ's blood and those who did it said these terrifying and soon to be fulfilled words from Mt 27:

[SUP]25 [/SUP]And all the people answered and said, “His (Jesus') blood be on us and on our children.”

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Indeed, they and their literal children were to soon pay for that. In Acts 26, Paul recounts his actions against the earlier church in Jerusalem like this:
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[SUP]10 [/SUP]This I also did in Jerusalem, and many of the saints I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I cast my vote against them. ​

[SUP]11 [/SUP]And I punished them often in every synagogue and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly enraged against them, I persecuted them even to foreign cities.​

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Yes, the saints of the 5th seal were waiting for vengeance but they would not have to wait much longer because the Presence of the Lord returned to execute His wrath upon that faithless and perverse generation, the worst generation ever known to mankind (according to Titus and Jesus actually).​

Before all of this, Peter at Pentecost in Acts 3, citing Moses, makes this very bold (and accurate) prediction.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren. Him you shall hear in all things, whatever He says to you. [SUP]23 [/SUP]And it shall be that every soul who will not hear that Prophet (Jesus) shall be utterly destroyed from among the people.’ ​

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[SUP]24 [/SUP]Yes, and all the prophets, from Samuel and those who follow, as many as have spoken, have also foretold these days.​

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They were in "those days" foretold by all the prophets from Samuel on down to Christ. Before Samuel even, Moses predicted the end of Israel in Deu 28 in an incredibly accurate and detailed way.​

It is time my brothers and sisters in Christ wake up and realize who God was mad at and that they were punished.
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The more you post the more I reject what you say.
You ignore what the eschatologyical prophecies say about the end times in order to make the foolish assertion that 70 AD was the end times. First Revelation was written after that. "Early Church tradition dates the book to end of the emperor Domitian (reigned AD 81–96), and most modern scholars agree." Since Revelation is a primary book on eschatology (end times) that obviously didn't happen in 70AD. Evidence of eschatologyical prophecies requires the abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Place. This was attempted before 70AD but failed to occur. A gold statue of a Caesar was made and was supposed to be placed in the temple but it was damaged first. Therefore it didn't take place. Now a temple needs to be built for it to happen. Live in reality of what the Bible and reliable history states.

 

[Roadkill]

If you were out of your physical body and were able to see it laying there, then you had to be in your spiritual body. By your own testimony, you saw, thus you had eyes. Do disembodied souls have eyes? You simply do not understand the nature of a spirit. When you stepped (floated) out of your body you were already in your spiritual body and in the process of transitioning to the spiritual realm. When you were revived, you re-entered your physical body.

You obviously had a very unique experience. I would be interested to hear more of what you saw and felt.

I've had experiences since then that are more profound than this.
I've seen many demons and conduct demonic warfare against them. I have seen the Holy Ghost give me strength in my time of need against them. It looked like a digitized ball of flame that went right into my chest on 2 different occasions.
I've seen the sky light up for 10 seconds from horizon to horizon in the dead of night as God sent help to me against something that was way more powerful than a demon.
I've gotten the courtesy extended to me to talk to a Cherubim Angel who guides me and answers some questions about the Bible on subjects that it does not expound on. He also tells me of events that are to come to pass if I know the right questions to ask.



It is funny to me though that Christians on here have a hard time with this. I can tell people that a demon spoke to me or attacked me and they will receive it with no problem. But you tell them that you can speak with an Angel of the Lord and they are skeptical (Ahwatukee) or they outright attack your reputation and call you a liar(Endoscopy). I find this highly Hypocritical and a lack of faith. Not to mention that the Angels are offended by this.
This Angel has given a sign that an agreement to build the Jewish Temple on the Mount again will be reached in May of this year and that the boundaries for it's foundation will be staked out

By the way, you are flat out wrong. The time written in Revelation is right around the corner in Less time than the Life of a Man.

The Roman Emperor Domitian did put the Apostle John on the Island of Patmos. 90 AD is not quite accurate but it is very close. He won't tell me the exact year but it is + or minus 1 year from 90 AD. This Cherubim Angel confirmed this to me.

Now watch Jerusalem with the rest of us and let's see what unfolds in May of 2018.

 

[Nehemiah6]

But you tell them that you can speak with an Angel of the Lord and they are skeptical (Ahwatukee) or they outright attack your reputation and call you a liar(Endoscopy). I find this highly Hypocritical and a lack of faith. Not to mention that the Angels are offended by this.

If God so chooses, He can definitely send an angel to a Christian to communicate what needs to be communicated directly.

Peter had an angel visit him in prison and release him supernaturally. So there is really no need to be skeptical about such things. In Revelation John is given messages and instructions through an angel at different times. And throughout Scripture we read of angelic visitations.

At the same time we have to wonder if Gabriel actually visited Mohammad or Joseph Smith, since their teachings go against Bible doctrine. Sometimes evil angels will pretend to be angels of light, so we need to be on guard against deception. Whatever lines up with Scripture is from God and whatever does not is from Satan.

Since you claim that you have been given a specific date for a certain event by an angel, you should be skeptical, since date-setting at this time in history is not called for.

 

[Ahwatukee]

If God so chooses, He can definitely send an angel to a Christian to communicate what needs to be communicated directly.

Peter had an angel visit him in prison and release him supernaturally. So there is really no need to be skeptical about such things. In Revelation John is given messages and instructions through an angel at different times. And throughout Scripture we read of angelic visitations.

At the same time we have to wonder if Gabriel actually visited Mohammad or Joseph Smith, since their teachings go against Bible doctrine. Sometimes evil angels will pretend to be angels of light, so we need to be on guard against deception. Whatever lines up with Scripture is from God and whatever does not is from Satan.

Since you claim that you have been given a specific date for a certain event by an angel, you should be skeptical, since date-setting at this time in history is not called for.

Hello Nehemiah6,

My contention with Roadkill is that, His claim of what the so-called angel told him does not match scripture. If an angel of God passes on information to someone, then it is not going to contradict the written word of God, as I am sure that you would agree. Regarding this, he has stated that in May the ground breaking for the building of the temple will take place and that it will take 40 years to build the temple. In addition, he stated that the gathering of the church will take place over a period of three days and that by different age groups if I am not mistaken. Yet the word of God states that the dead rising first and the living being changed and caught up, will take place in an "atomos" i.e. an amount of time to short to divide. That's how quickly this event will take place.

Regarding the building of the temple, I believe that it is the "covenant" that this ruler, the antichrist, makes with the many, Israel and Islam, is what is going to make it possible for Israel to build their temple on the temple mount. And because the scripture states that in the middle of the seven years that the antichrist puts a stop to the sacrifices and offerings and sets up that abomination, which would mean that the temple will be built and completed at the beginning of that seven year period.

In conclusion, all we have to do is wait for May and when what he has claimed regarding ground breaking for the temple that the angel told him doesn't take place, then we will know that it was not angel from God, because an angel is going to be representing God and therefore it must take place.

 

[Endoscopy]

Hello Nehemiah6,

My contention with Roadkill is that, His claim of what the so-called angel told him does not match scripture. If an angel of God passes on information to someone, then it is not going to contradict the written word of God, as I am sure that you would agree. Regarding this, he has stated that in May the ground breaking for the building of the temple will take place and that it will take 40 years to build the temple. In addition, he stated that the gathering of the church will take place over a period of three days and that by different age groups if I am not mistaken. Yet the word of God states that the dead rising first and the living being changed and caught up, will take place in an "atomos" i.e. an amount of time to short to divide. That's how quickly this event will take place.

Regarding the building of the temple, I believe that it is the "covenant" that this ruler, the antichrist, makes with the many, Israel and Islam, is what is going to make it possible for Israel to build their temple on the temple mount. And because the scripture states that in the middle of the seven years that the antichrist puts a stop to the sacrifices and offerings and sets up that abomination, which would mean that the temple will be built and completed at the beginning of that seven year period.

In conclusion, all we have to do is wait for May and when what he has claimed regarding ground breaking for the temple that the angel told him doesn't take place, then we will know that it was not angel from God, because an angel is going to be representing God and therefore it must take place.

A point of clarification.
1. The temple was in the City of David. That started from the south of the the temple mount towards the west end and went south from there. The "wailing wall" is what is left of a Roman fort.
2. Jesus told his disciples to look toward the temple complex at a distance and told them not one stone would be left on another
3. Josephus recorded the destruction of the temple complex as a person watching it. He stated that if he hadn't watched it he wouldn't have known where it stood.

So the temple complex was never on the temple mount.

 

[Ahwatukee]

If God so chooses, He can definitely send an angel to a Christian to communicate what needs to be communicated directly.

Peter had an angel visit him in prison and release him supernaturally. So there is really no need to be skeptical about such things. In Revelation John is given messages and instructions through an angel at different times. And throughout Scripture we read of angelic visitations.

At the same time we have to wonder if Gabriel actually visited Mohammad or Joseph Smith, since their teachings go against Bible doctrine. Sometimes evil angels will pretend to be angels of light, so we need to be on guard against deception. Whatever lines up with Scripture is from God and whatever does not is from Satan.

Since you claim that you have been given a specific date for a certain event by an angel, you should be skeptical, since date-setting at this time in history is not called for.

Hello again,

Below is basically what Roadkill wrote, which is what prompted me to respond to his post:

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Boy just remember that you asked for this! Lol

First of all the Second Coming of Jesus and the Rapture are two separate events. Jesus' second coming will come in the twinkling of an eye. The Rapture is not so.

The Rapture is a 3 day event. As the Sun passes over at 12 noon on parts of the Earth at those time zones these events will occur in full view of all mankind and undeniable.

1st Day
All the dead in Christ will burst from the graves transfigured and will ascend to heaven. This event will cause many to believe on Jesus Christ.

2nd Day
Everyone living 25 years and down who believe on Jesus Christ, will Transfigure in full view of mankind and ascend to Heaven. This includes those 25 year olds and on down who came to believe because of the previous day of the dead arising in Christ. The unborn children in their mothers wombs will also Transfigure and no children will be conceived to men for the duration of the Tribulation Period. Also all innocent minded humans will Transfigure too, in example, those like people with Dow's Syndrome and other afflictions of the mind. God will not allow any innocent persons to suffer through the Tribulation Period of his wrath.

3rd Day
All others 25 years and Older who believe on Jesus Christ.
This includes everyone who believed on Jesus because of the first 2 day's events of the Rapture even if they are 25 years and younger.

God's mercies towards mankind are Wonderful!

There it is, rip at it all you want. It does me no harm because I am anonymous and will remain the same. Would you like to know the year and the season? Would you like to know the exact day of the sign in the sky of Revelation chapter 12 which is the Mid Trib marker of the last 3 and 1\2 years of the Tribulation Period?

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There is nothing in scripture that would suggest that the gathering of the church takes place over a 3 day period by that by age groups! And as far as I can see, there the rest of the world is not going to see the gathering of the church, but will only be aware of it once it takes place.

He also states that the Lord's return to end the age (second coming) will take place in the "twinkling of an eye" but that the gathering doesn't. This is not in accordance with scripture, as I am sure that you will agree. The second coming cannot and will not take place in the twinkling of an eye. On the contrary, we are told that a multitude of signs will take place leading up to the Lord's return. And when He does return to the earth, it will be on the clouds of the sky and every eye will see him. So the inhabitants of the earth will have plenty of indicators marking the Lord's return. It is the gathering of the church which will take place in an "atomos" i.e. a time to short to divide, in the twinkling of an eye and not the second coming.

In addition, you have two people claiming to have received information from God, either through an angel or by God Himself, namely, DiscipleDave and Roadkill, and they are not in agreement with each other regarding what God told them! If they had truly received information from God, they should be in agreement on every detail.

The truth will be revealed come May!

 

[Nehemiah6]

Hello again,

Below is basically what Roadkill wrote, which is what prompted me to respond to his post:

I can see that Roadkill is seriously confused about the Rapture and the Second Coming (as addressed in your post), so I have to wonder as to which kind of angel has been communicating with him. Beware of lying spirits!

 

[Ahwatukee]

If God so chooses, He can definitely send an angel to a Christian to communicate what needs to be communicated directly.

Peter had an angel visit him in prison and release him supernaturally. So there is really no need to be skeptical about such things. In Revelation John is given messages and instructions through an angel at different times. And throughout Scripture we read of angelic visitations.

At the same time we have to wonder if Gabriel actually visited Mohammad or Joseph Smith, since their teachings go against Bible doctrine. Sometimes evil angels will pretend to be angels of light, so we need to be on guard against deception. Whatever lines up with Scripture is from God and whatever does not is from Satan.

Since you claim that you have been given a specific date for a certain event by an angel, you should be skeptical, since date-setting at this time in history is not called for.

Me again,

While I'm on this subject, not that I ever get off this subject, below is something else roadkill said in his post:

The unborn children in their mothers wombs will also Transfigure and no children will be conceived to men for the duration of the Tribulation Period.

The above definitely is not in accordance with the following scripture:

"How miserable those days will be for pregnant and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again. If those days had not been cut short, nobody would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days will be shortened."

Regarding the above, I'm sure that you will agree that, and as the scripture makes clear, that the reference regarding pregnant women during "those days" is referring to the great tribulation period, which demonstrates that the women of Israel will indeed be conceiving children during those times. Yet Roadkill stated that "no children will be conceived during the tribulation period." So, we have a big contention here between the written word of God and what the so-called angle told Roadkill.

 

[Nehemiah6]

So, we have a big contention here between the written word of God and what the so-called angel told Roadkill.

You are quite right, and Roadkill is really off base. If he is getting these "revelations" from an angel, then he already has a huge problem. That angel is misleading him.

 

[Endoscopy]

I can see that Roadkill is seriously confused about the Rapture and the Second Coming (as addressed in your post), so I have to wonder as to which kind of angel has been communicating with him. Beware of lying spirits!

If he was visited by a spiritual being it obviously wasn't from God since it gave information contrary to scripture!! He is blinded to this fact!!

 

[PlainWord]

Once again you are incorrect. God does not break his covenant no matter what man does on his side of the deal. The Ark is still here and his promises to Israel is still in effect today. As proof, where do you think the 144,000 Israelies in which 12000 from each tribe come from in Revelations? This is not speaking about the church obviously.

God doesn't break His covenants, no matter what? Really!!??? You might want to read Zec 11 again because this was talking about 70 AD.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]So I fed the flock for slaughter, in particular the poor of the flock.I took for myself two staffs: the one I called Beauty,[SUP][c][/SUP] and the other I called Bonds;[SUP][d][/SUP] and I fed the flock. ​

[SUP]8 [/SUP]I dismissed the three shepherds in one month. My soul loathed them, and their soul also abhorred me. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Then I said, “I will not feed you. Let what is dying die, and what is perishing perish. Let those that are left eat each other’s flesh.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]And I took my staff, Beauty, and cut it in two, that I might break the covenant which I had made with all the peoples. [SUP]11 [/SUP]So it was broken on that day.​

Ooops. might want to reconsider that one good buddy.

 

[PlainWord]

The more you post the more I reject what you say.
You ignore what the eschatologyical prophecies say about the end times in order to make the foolish assertion that 70 AD was the end times. First Revelation was written after that. "Early Church tradition dates the book to end of the emperor Domitian (reigned AD 81–96), and most modern scholars agree." Since Revelation is a primary book on eschatology (end times) that obviously didn't happen in 70AD. Evidence of eschatologyical prophecies requires the abomination of desolation standing in the Holy Place. This was attempted before 70AD but failed to occur. A gold statue of a Caesar was made and was supposed to be placed in the temple but it was damaged first. Therefore it didn't take place. Now a temple needs to be built for it to happen. Live in reality of what the Bible and reliable history states.

Reject all you want good buddy. Doesn't make you right about anything. Stay in the Word and do so earnestly and honestly with prayer. Early church tradition is wrong. It was based on a third hand account by someone who wasn't alive and he repeated it 35 years after he supposedly heard it. Revelation was all about the end of Israel in 70 AD. Read Josephus and educate yourself. That's the best advise I can give you.

 

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I've had experiences since then that are more profound than this.
I've seen many demons and conduct demonic warfare against them. I have seen the Holy Ghost give me strength in my time of need against them. It looked like a digitized ball of flame that went right into my chest on 2 different occasions.
I've seen the sky light up for 10 seconds from horizon to horizon in the dead of night as God sent help to me against something that was way more powerful than a demon.
I've gotten the courtesy extended to me to talk to a Cherubim Angel who guides me and answers some questions about the Bible on subjects that it does not expound on. He also tells me of events that are to come to pass if I know the right questions to ask.



It is funny to me though that Christians on here have a hard time with this. I can tell people that a demon spoke to me or attacked me and they will receive it with no problem. But you tell them that you can speak with an Angel of the Lord and they are skeptical (Ahwatukee) or they outright attack your reputation and call you a liar(Endoscopy). I find this highly Hypocritical and a lack of faith. Not to mention that the Angels are offended by this.
This Angel has given a sign that an agreement to build the Jewish Temple on the Mount again will be reached in May of this year and that the boundaries for it's foundation will be staked out

By the way, you are flat out wrong. The time written in Revelation is right around the corner in Less time than the Life of a Man.

The Roman Emperor Domitian did put the Apostle John on the Island of Patmos. 90 AD is not quite accurate but it is very close. He won't tell me the exact year but it is + or minus 1 year from 90 AD. This Cherubim Angel confirmed this to me.

Now watch Jerusalem with the rest of us and let's see what unfolds in May of 2018.

Thanks for sharing. I totally recognize how much the spiritual realm influences us. You shared some interesting things which I will ponder. However, May is right around the corner. Let's see if your prediction comes true. An agreement to build a third temple is to be reached in May, 2018. We shall see. Then we will all be able to judge by your fruits my dear fellow.