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Yes those philosophies do tend to go round in circles, well sending people round in circles without giving absolute and solid, concrete answers...like its designed to keep people trapped in that cycle to not come to the Truth...

Yes they do sound very nice, gentle, convincing, persuasive - kind of telling us what we wanna hear. Appealing to our wants maybe.... They are deceiving spirits and want to present themselves as angels of light.

RE: those spirits saying those things about Jesus, and God - funny how they exist but they'd try to convince God doesn't, hmmm. That doesn't add up. Yeah I remember getting a bit of that (trying to put me off turning to The Almighty) when I started to question what I was into with regards to new age stuff. It was quite a battle actually but the more I resisted and turned to God, and the Bible, the less power and hold they had over me. God Most High is Faithful.

RE: sitting on the fence. Yes, I can understand how it's not an overnight transition. Takes a lot of courage to come away from all that stuff!! I'm so glad you did :) so glad I did!!! God is so good, Jesus is The Good Shepherd, and He'll go looking for His sheep and bring 'em into the fold. Woooooooo yeah hehe.
Thank you, Deror, and amen! It was the shamans and other healers/practitioners who told me that God did not exist, and that stories about Jesus were just stories. Deep in my bones I knew they were wrong, but I had been in rebellion against God, Scriptures, religion, etc, for so long, I could not easily or readily accept that everything I had thought I had known was wrong, and what I had believed to be wrong was actually right :eek: Much of my identity was tied up in those things in one way or another, even though I had been brought up in a religious home, and had previously experienced the love and forgiveness of God at a time in my life when I was feeling the most broken I ever have. Here is a post from almost three years ago that I made on that experience:

I have a slightly different understanding because of the way I have experienced God, even while I was still running from Him in disobedience, rebellion, and defiance. I consider myself to have been lost at that time from my present perspective, but God knew exactly where I was. This was quite a few years ago, twenty seven to be more exact. My marriage had broken down following two first-trimester miscarriages, and a still birth that occurred less than two weeks before the nuptials. I also had a lot of baggage from my past that I had been unable to deal with/put "closure" on. It was around Passover in 1988, and a neighborhood evangelical Christian church was showing a movie on the life of Christ based on the Gospel of Luke. I had been brought up in a fairly strict religious environment but did not know Jesus, and was curious, and living in a world of unremitting emotional pain, so I went. As I sat in that church after seeing the first or second part of that movie, I am not sure at what point the following happened: my whole body was filled with the Light of God's unconditional love and forgiveness for me and all I had done, all the ways I had messed up my life, all my failures and mistakes, all of it bathed in the Light of His absolute understanding of how and why I had become the person I was, all of it bathed in the Light of His unconditional love and total forgiveness. I tell you, I wept. I felt so broken and so lost and so unredeemable, but most of all I felt unworthy. And of course I am unworthy.

Even after that, oh yes, it was a cherished experience, but even after that I did not believe in "that" God. I had begun a spiritual seeking phase, and carried on in that for another sixteen
(that should have said 15 :D) years until God clearly called me out of what I was doing. And yes, even after that, even after that clear calling out, my stiff-necked stubbornness was so set against Him it took another year following the calling out for me to surrender my life to Him.
 
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Amen sister, a bait, then switch, eventually. True, don't give the devil any room at all.

I got 5% on my battery. Plus it's 2am now here. I've really enjoyed being here with you and pleasantly surprised by how fellowship turned out, wow, what happens when believers get together ey... Reminds me of when I went to Church prayer sessions and God really surprised us often hehehe
Im gonna go sleep smiling tonight thinking of how He has led you guys away from harm :D
I can't charge up and sit in the chair at the same time hehehe otherwise I'd stay cos this time has been so lovely tonight, Thankyou so much for your fellowship. Hope you all have a great day, and evening.
You too darling - lol you're going to sleep when I am sometimes getting up, go figure! Sleep well my beautiful sister in Christ and we'll be back for more in your tomorra :)
 

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Thank you, Deror, and amen! It was the shamans and other healers/practitioners who told me that God did not exist, and that stories about Jesus were just stories. Deep in my bones I knew they were wrong, but I had been in rebellion against God, Scriptures, religion, etc, for so long, I could not easily or readily accept that everything I had thought I had known was wrong, and what I had believed to be wrong was actually right :eek: Much of my identity was tied up in those things in one way or another, even though I had been brought up in a religious home, and had previously experienced the love and forgiveness of God at a time in my life when I was feeling the most broken I ever have. Here is a post from almost three years ago that I made on that experience:
Most definitely will ketchup with your post tomorrow Magenta. Great fellowship Thanks so much
1%. Oh no it might just go off thanks so mich for sharing guys, you're awesome Testimonies!!!!
 
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Thank you, Deror, and amen! It was the shamans and other healers/practitioners who told me that God did not exist, and that stories about Jesus were just stories. Deep in my bones I knew they were wrong, but I had been in rebellion against God, Scriptures, religion, etc, for so long, I could not easily or readily accept that everything I had thought I had known was wrong, and what I had believed to be wrong was actually right :eek: Much of my identity was tied up in those things in one way or another, even though I had been brought up in a religious home, and had previously experienced the love and forgiveness of God at a time in my life when I was feeling the most broken I ever have. Here is a post from almost three years ago that I made on that experience:
Well thankyou for sharing that most glorious testimony here darling - we so appreciate you and your love for Christ - we've been led on an amazing journey here today. What a blessing! Oh how marvellous are thy works! I could sit here all day with you and talk about this lol.

 

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Amen Sista! The thing with Harry Potter which makes it more dangerous than some of the other movies and books is that it teaches children 'how to' perform Witchcraft - how to cast spells - and it emphasises that supernatural power is real and that you can learn how to tap into it, and though it may all sound like innocent fun - it aint - and God gives us His extreme warning never to go there. When God uses the word 'abomination' - we don't take that lightly - we take that as an extreme danger alert! Engage in those new age practices and you're engaging with the devil - it's an open door of invitation!
Yes, I had read a lot of new age material also, though some of it was quite disturbing with what seemed like some kind of demonic possession, even though the spirit speaking through them said such lovely sounding things, it went round and round in circles, as worldly philosophies often do. I was also studying with shamans; being around them increased my clairvoyance, but again different things had different meanings depending on what source you looked to, to explain things, and I found that very off putting.

When I turned to some of those same teachers and healers and practitioners to help me understand some of what I experienced that day when God spoke to me, they said things to me like, stories about Jesus are just stories, and God does not really exist. After Jesus appeared to me that same day, and what happened later that night, I could no longer accept at all what they were telling me. However, I remained firmly ensconced on the fence for almost a year after that, but was unable to find answers to my questions anywhere but within the writings of Scripture, and I finally surrendered my life to Him, the lover of my soul.
I never really got into new age or Harry Potter but, in my 40's raising young "curious" teenagers, I knew it was wrong but couldn't tell them "why." So, I began studying scripture and found Deuteronomy 18, which you quoted already. Asking the Holy Spirit to help me explain, this is what came to me................and how I explained it to my children:

There are 3 realms -

The Heavenly - Highest Authority rules over all 3 realms - This is where God Almighty (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and angels dwell. We are seated in "heavenly places" in this realm in Christ Jesus. The Kingdom of Light.

The Spiritual - Satan, demons, evil spirits, lying spirits, sorcery, witchcraft, new age, etc. The Kingdom of Darkness. Principalities in high places. Has authority over anyone in Physical realm that is NOT in Christ. However, the Kingdom of Darkness cannot do anything without approval from God in the Heavenly realm. Michael the Archangel withstood the prince of Persia in this realm so that an angel (I think Gabriel) could deliver a message to Daniel.

The Physical - Everything and everyone that can be seen, touched, tasted, smelt, and heard - the universe, galaxies, solar systems, planets, stars.

On Earth, the unsaved are just "sitting ducks." Those "in Christ" are seated in the Heavenly realm with Christ and are shining the Light of Jesus Christ to a dark world. We walk on this Earth with power and authority "in Christ" to set captives free, give sight to the blind, bind up the broken hearted, preach the good news of the gospel, go about destroying the works of the enemy. Holy Spirit is in us and with us on the Earth, leading, guiding, counseling, teaching, comforting, empowering us!

I rambled on, hope it makes sense.

All that "spiritual" stuff is real, however, all the "heavenly" stuff is real, too and is the highest authority! Jesus Christ rules over the unseen and the seen. Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL and forever exalted and praised!! :)
 

Magenta

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Well thankyou for sharing that most glorious testimony here darling - we so appreciate you and your love for Christ - we've been led on an amazing journey here today. What a blessing! Oh how marvellous are thy works! I could sit here all day with you and talk about this lol.

You are welcome, HUFL :):):) I love sharing my testimony, even though I am little shy about it, though my modesty in that regard does not prevent me from boldly proclaiming the love of God to others, for I know how long suffering He was with me, and I experienced His love and presence in a way that was profound as well as undeniable... and ultimately life transforming :)

Thank you for the purple pics you share! That one is very beautiful :D
 

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You know my first book has a whole chapter called "New Age or Old Tricks" that touches on many of the things our youngsters are bombarded with. They even have cartoons and comic books that have all the ancient pagan gods in them. They even have oriental gods and ghost stories. The devil has really taken over our media outlets.

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Good nite Deror:
 
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You are welcome, HUFL :):):) I love sharing my testimony, even though I am little shy about it, though my modesty in that regard does not prevent me from boldly proclaiming the love of God to others, for I know how long suffering He was with me, and I experienced His love and presence in a way that was profound as well as undeniable... and ultimately life transforming :)

Thank you for the purple pics you share! That one is very beautiful :D
Amen and you're welcome! Praises and glory to our God!
 

Magenta

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I never really got into new age or Harry Potter but, in my 40's raising young "curious" teenagers, I knew it was wrong but couldn't tell them "why." So, I began studying scripture and found Deuteronomy 18, which you quoted already. Asking the Holy Spirit to help me explain, this is what came to me................and how I explained it to my children:

There are 3 realms -

The Heavenly - Highest Authority rules over all 3 realms - This is where God Almighty (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and angels dwell. We are seated in "heavenly places" in this realm in Christ Jesus. The Kingdom of Light.

The Spiritual - Satan, demons, evil spirits, lying spirits, sorcery, witchcraft, new age, etc. The Kingdom of Darkness. Principalities in high places. Has authority over anyone in Physical realm that is NOT in Christ. However, the Kingdom of Darkness cannot do anything without approval from God in the Heavenly realm. Michael the Archangel withstood the prince of Persia in this realm so that an angel (I think Gabriel) could deliver a message to Daniel.

The Physical - Everything and everyone that can be seen, touched, tasted, smelt, and heard - the universe, galaxies, solar systems, planets, stars.

On Earth, the unsaved are just "sitting ducks." Those "in Christ" are seated in the Heavenly realm with Christ and are shining the Light of Jesus Christ to a dark world. We walk on this Earth with power and authority "in Christ" to set captives free, give sight to the blind, bind up the broken hearted, preach the good news of the gospel, go about destroying the works of the enemy. Holy Spirit is in us and with us on the Earth, leading, guiding, counseling, teaching, comforting, empowering us!

I rambled on, hope it makes sense.

All that "spiritual" stuff is real, however, all the "heavenly" stuff is real, too and is the highest authority! Jesus Christ rules over the unseen and the seen. Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL and forever exalted and praised!! :)
Thank you so much for sharing this, Lafftur! I especially appreciate your explanation of the spiritual realm, for that is the realm I was most interested in, and your explanation of it made a lot of sense to me. I agonized for a long time about what happened to me, for I did not know who had the power to do to me what I experienced that night, following God speaking to me, and Jesus appearing to me. It was as if a question had been put to me: will you believe? I found I could not, and what's more, I discovered I did not want to, for it would throw over my whole way of life. Something I experienced later that night was more terrifying than anything I have ever experienced in my life, and why I agonized over it, and sought answers from all quarters for what I experienced, but nobody could tell me what it was.
 

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You are welcome, HUFL :):):) I love sharing my testimony, even though I am little shy about it, though my modesty in that regard does not prevent me from boldly proclaiming the love of God to others, for I know how long suffering He was with me, and I experienced His love and presence in a way that was profound as well as undeniable... and ultimately life transforming :)

Thank you for the purple pics you share! That one is very beautiful :D
Absolutely beautiful testimony! So glad you shared it! There's a guy named Nathan Wheeler that has a testimony on YouTube about coming out of new age and all that stuff. Very powerful!! Very loooooooong testimony but, I took the time and watched - his testimony absolutely confirms everything you have said.

He's TOTALLY ON FIRE FOR JESUS NOW! :)
 
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You know my first book has a whole chapter called "New Age or Old Tricks" that touches on many of the things our youngsters are bombarded with. They even have cartoons and comic books that have all the ancient pagan gods in them. They even have oriental gods and ghost stories. The devil has really taken over our media outlets.

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Good nite Deror:
I agree with you Deade! It's all old stuff - and the devil masquerades as an angel of light, making all these dangerous occult practices seem so enticing and even beneficial for you. It's a giant scam alright and one to be avoided at all costs!

2 Cor 11:14 "And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light."
 
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Absolutely beautiful testimony! So glad you shared it! There's a guy named Nathan Wheeler that has a testimony on YouTube about coming out of new age and all that stuff. Very powerful!! Very loooooooong testimony but, I took the time and watched - his testimony absolutely confirms everything you have said.

He's TOTALLY ON FIRE FOR JESUS NOW! :)
AWESOME I LOVE IT! Thanks for sharing! (((HUGS)))
 

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You know Lafftur I have been trying to tell everyone exactly what you are saying here.
However, the Kingdom of Darkness cannot do anything without approval from God in the Heavenly realm. Michael the Archangel withstood the prince of Persia in this realm so that an angel (I think Gabriel) could deliver a message to Daniel.
Too many people think of God warring with the demons and losing. That is not the case. Satan is just a tool for us to overcome.

All that "spiritual" stuff is real, however, all the "heavenly" stuff is real, too and is the highest authority! Jesus Christ rules over the unseen and the seen. Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL and forever exalted and praised!!
My God reigns!

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Thank you so much for sharing this, Lafftur! I especially appreciate your explanation of the spiritual realm, for that is the realm I was most interested in, and your explanation of it made a lot of sense to me. I agonized for a long time about what happened to me, for I did not know who had the power to do to me what I experienced that night, following God speaking to me, and Jesus appearing to me. It was as if a question had been put to me: will you believe? I found I could not, and what's more, I discovered I did not want to, for it would throw over my whole way of life. Something I experienced later that night was more terrifying than anything I have ever experienced in my life, and why I agonized over it, and sought answers from all quarters for what I experienced, but nobody could tell me what it was.
Yay!!!! I get so excited when I've helped someone understand something!!!

 
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I never really got into new age or Harry Potter but, in my 40's raising young "curious" teenagers, I knew it was wrong but couldn't tell them "why." So, I began studying scripture and found Deuteronomy 18, which you quoted already. Asking the Holy Spirit to help me explain, this is what came to me................and how I explained it to my children:

There are 3 realms -

The Heavenly - Highest Authority rules over all 3 realms - This is where God Almighty (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) and angels dwell. We are seated in "heavenly places" in this realm in Christ Jesus. The Kingdom of Light.

The Spiritual - Satan, demons, evil spirits, lying spirits, sorcery, witchcraft, new age, etc. The Kingdom of Darkness. Principalities in high places. Has authority over anyone in Physical realm that is NOT in Christ. However, the Kingdom of Darkness cannot do anything without approval from God in the Heavenly realm. Michael the Archangel withstood the prince of Persia in this realm so that an angel (I think Gabriel) could deliver a message to Daniel.

The Physical - Everything and everyone that can be seen, touched, tasted, smelt, and heard - the universe, galaxies, solar systems, planets, stars.

On Earth, the unsaved are just "sitting ducks." Those "in Christ" are seated in the Heavenly realm with Christ and are shining the Light of Jesus Christ to a dark world. We walk on this Earth with power and authority "in Christ" to set captives free, give sight to the blind, bind up the broken hearted, preach the good news of the gospel, go about destroying the works of the enemy. Holy Spirit is in us and with us on the Earth, leading, guiding, counseling, teaching, comforting, empowering us!

I rambled on, hope it makes sense.

All that "spiritual" stuff is real, however, all the "heavenly" stuff is real, too and is the highest authority! Jesus Christ rules over the unseen and the seen. Jesus Christ is Lord of ALL and forever exalted and praised!! :)
Amen! Jesus is the name to which every knee shall bow! HALLELUJAH!





 

Magenta

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Absolutely beautiful testimony! So glad you shared it! There's a guy named Nathan Wheeler that has a testimony on YouTube about coming out of new age and all that stuff. Very powerful!! Very loooooooong testimony but, I took the time and watched - his testimony absolutely confirms everything you have said.

He's TOTALLY ON FIRE FOR JESUS NOW! :)
I may have heard his name before, but probably most likely not watched his testimony. I will, now! Not now as in right now, but now after hearing about him from you, I probably will :D Thanks again, Lafftur!
 

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I may have heard his name before, but probably most likely not watched his testimony. I will, now! Not now as in right now, but now after hearing about him from you, I probably will :D Thanks again, Lafftur!
Nathan Wheeler's testimony is soooo looooong, I have to admit after about the 3rd video of 10, I wanted to stop watching because he was sharing about his new age experiences and I was like "YUK!!!!", however, the Holy Spirit pressed me to be patient and listen to the 10 part testimony in it's entirety.

WOW!! It just completely confirmed EVERYTHING the Holy Spirit had shown me about the 3 realms. It will bless you, I know it will and probably answer any questions you might still have. :)