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Hi NoName, at birth when a womans water breaks, its is not "mostly urine", as poster benhur claims. To make such an inaccurate statement as this is offensive to the human race and the thought of being born "in urine" as he claims is indefensible.
You are correct, benhur is not correct. A woman's water when it breaks is fluid,not urine.
Feeling the Water: Attribute; https://www.modernmom.com/2d4a82c6-051f-11e2-9d62-404062497d7e.html
Quote: Sometimes, it is obvious when your water breaks. You will feel a "gush of fluid" soaking through your clothing. You can’t mistake this for anything else. Other times, with water breaking in pregnancy, it is more subtle, and "you might mistake it for urine leakage" or vaginal discharge.
You are correct, benhur is not correct. A woman's water when it breaks is fluid,not urine.
Feeling the Water: Attribute; https://www.modernmom.com/2d4a82c6-051f-11e2-9d62-404062497d7e.html
Quote: Sometimes, it is obvious when your water breaks. You will feel a "gush of fluid" soaking through your clothing. You can’t mistake this for anything else. Other times, with water breaking in pregnancy, it is more subtle, and "you might mistake it for urine leakage" or vaginal discharge.
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ljs, first of all I'm not even sure personal salvation can be proven, as it speaks to the heart. I believe if one is truly saved, they'll want to bring Glory to God to the best of their frail human ability. I know I do.
Since we are all unique, then wouldn't each bring glory to God in their own uniquely special way? If so, how can someone - anyone really - say this or that proves salvation?
Thanks!
Since we are all unique, then wouldn't each bring glory to God in their own uniquely special way? If so, how can someone - anyone really - say this or that proves salvation?
Thanks!
Furthermore, Nicodemus’ question, “Can a man crawl back into his mother’s womb to be born again?” indicates he understood that being “born of water” was referring to our “first” fleshly birth. Jesus then goes on to explain that the Spirit comes and goes as He wills, identifying being born again of the Spirit is indeed possible for Him.
Romans 1:16-17: "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, “The just shall live by faith.”
It's the power of God! Focus is on the word "believe".... nothing added here. it does not say believe + do xyz.
It's the power of God! Focus is on the word "believe".... nothing added here. it does not say believe + do xyz.
Sweet Budman, careful.......I'm not even sure if Christians are Christians. LOL! 
All I know is I LOVE JESUS CHRIST!!! He is my Savior, my King, my Lord, The Son of God, God in the flesh.............let's just say I LOVE HIM and follow HIM! Amen.
All I know is I LOVE JESUS CHRIST!!! He is my Savior, my King, my Lord, The Son of God, God in the flesh.............let's just say I LOVE HIM and follow HIM! Amen.
Yet, I would be hard pressed to understand how a born again believer could stay in the Catholic Church.
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What fellowship does righteousness have with lawlessness... or light with darkness...
True, many testimonies of ex catholics that got saved and came out of that system. Yet, for some reason I think there may be some that have stayed.
I recall the scripture "come out of her MY people" is one of them. For whatever reason there might be some who don't leave. You would think once their eyes are opened that they could not remain in a system that teaches a different gospel.
I spoke to a believer on here one time who said her catholic brother got saved but then stayed there so he could witness to catholics. But I would think it would be a better witness when they see him separating himself from that which he knows does not teach truth.
True, many testimonies of ex catholics that got saved and came out of that system. Yet, for some reason I think there may be some that have stayed.
I recall the scripture "come out of her MY people" is one of them. For whatever reason there might be some who don't leave. You would think once their eyes are opened that they could not remain in a system that teaches a different gospel.
I spoke to a believer on here one time who said her catholic brother got saved but then stayed there so he could witness to catholics. But I would think it would be a better witness when they see him separating himself from that which he knows does not teach truth.
Like Mother Teresa, with all that she did, yet she believed a different gospel. Maybe she got saved on her death bed (only God knows), but if she died without Jesus she would be in Hades now, and her works would be rags. Saying this, I do believe God may have brought some relief to some people, according to His will though.
As the scriptures say, many on judgment day will be boasting of the works they did, before being sent to the lake of fire because Jesus will say He never knew them... they were never His, He was never their Lord. (Wow, auto correct said lake of firs)
It stuns me, some standing before Jesus saying "look what I did for you" rather than "look what you did for me".
As the scriptures say, many on judgment day will be boasting of the works they did, before being sent to the lake of fire because Jesus will say He never knew them... they were never His, He was never their Lord. (Wow, auto correct said lake of firs
)It stuns me, some standing before Jesus saying "look what I did for you" rather than "look what you did for me".
I don't agree with benhur's theology but his statement here about amniotic fluid is largely correct.
When he says that amniotic fluid is largely urine he is actually correct.
However, none of it comes from the mother.
The developing baby, once the kidneys have developed start to put out urine.
The baby also drinks this fluid and then urinates it.
This recycling of amniotic fluid takes place for many months in utero.
In volume terms most of the amniotic fluid comes directly from the developing baby and it is urine...
As I said, the theological conclusions that he draws as a consequence of the knowledge above are nonsensical...
When he says that amniotic fluid is largely urine he is actually correct.
However, none of it comes from the mother.
The developing baby, once the kidneys have developed start to put out urine.
The baby also drinks this fluid and then urinates it.
This recycling of amniotic fluid takes place for many months in utero.
In volume terms most of the amniotic fluid comes directly from the developing baby and it is urine...
As I said, the theological conclusions that he draws as a consequence of the knowledge above are nonsensical...
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 10:22, “And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matt 24:12-13, “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall become cold. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:36, “For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of Yah you may receive what is promised.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:14, “For we have become partakers of Messiah if we hold fast the beginning of our trust firm to the end.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 3:12, "He who overcomes, I will make a pillar in The House of My Father, and he will never go out of it. And I will write upon him the Name of My Father, and the Name of the New Yerusalem which comes down out of heaven from My Father, newly named."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For scripture interprets scripture, and nobody can preach or teach differently than what Yahshua already taught, and He Himself said He taught the doctrine of YHWH. What is promised to us is eternal life, so once again; once you have done the will of Yah in your life, in the resurrection you receive it. Not before.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 3:21, “To him who overcomes I shall give to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 12:11, “And they overcame him because of the Blood of the Lamb, and because of the Word of their witness, and they did not love their lives to the death."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 25:23, “His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 15:51-55, “See, I speak a secret to you: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible has to put on incorruption, and this mortal to put on immortality. And when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall come to be the word that has been written, “Death is swallowed up in overcoming. O Death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your overcoming?”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matt 24:12-13, “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall become cold. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:36, “For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of Yah you may receive what is promised.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 3:14, “For we have become partakers of Messiah if we hold fast the beginning of our trust firm to the end.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 3:12, "He who overcomes, I will make a pillar in The House of My Father, and he will never go out of it. And I will write upon him the Name of My Father, and the Name of the New Yerusalem which comes down out of heaven from My Father, newly named."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]For scripture interprets scripture, and nobody can preach or teach differently than what Yahshua already taught, and He Himself said He taught the doctrine of YHWH. What is promised to us is eternal life, so once again; once you have done the will of Yah in your life, in the resurrection you receive it. Not before.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 3:21, “To him who overcomes I shall give to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 12:11, “And they overcame him because of the Blood of the Lamb, and because of the Word of their witness, and they did not love their lives to the death."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mat 25:23, “His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Corinthians 15:51-55, “See, I speak a secret to you: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible has to put on incorruption, and this mortal to put on immortality. And when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall come to be the word that has been written, “Death is swallowed up in overcoming. O Death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your overcoming?”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 11:28, But He said, “Blessed rather are those hearing the Word of Yah and watching over it!”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 8:21, “And He answering, said to them, “My mother and My brothers are those who are hearing the Word of Yah and doing it.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 12:50, “For whoever does the desire of My Father who is in the heavens is My brother and sister and mother.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 8:21, “And He answering, said to them, “My mother and My brothers are those who are hearing the Word of Yah and doing it.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Matthew 12:50, “For whoever does the desire of My Father who is in the heavens is My brother and sister and mother.”[/FONT]