Did Jesus Have The Human Sinful Nature?

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pjharrison

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garee said:
The Son of man who lived in a body of death typified as sinful flesh for a one time outward demonstration of His Spirit not seen condemning sin in the flesh that we might walk in the newness of lif,e by faith

God is not a man as us .God has no nature. He is supernatural without nature ,without mother or father beginning of Spirit life or end thereof

Romans 8:3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
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That don't mean he sinned. Because our flesh is sinful he took our place. Because if he had sin in him he couldn't have died for us, because he would have also been dirty.
 
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pjharrison

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shrume said:
Of course it did. Mary was Jesus' mother.
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As humans we are born by our mothers egg and our fathers sperm. There was neither in this case. Mary was his earthly mother. Jesus came also to die for Mary. He was also her master. Are you Catholic?
 
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shrume

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DevotiontoBible said:
Then why didn't your father's seed sprout up kids everywhere it landed outside your mother?
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Because a child is conceived when a sperm (seed) impregnates an egg. Both are required. But the seed comes from the father.

I think there are only two occurrences in the Bible where women are said to have seed. One is in Genesis 3:15, the first promise of the coming Messiah. I believe it's an allusion to the virgin birth, because women do not have seed, they provide eggs. The second is in Revelation 12. The woman in Rev 12:17 is metaphorical for Israel.

I believe every other time in the Bible where seed is mentioned, it is referring to men, or coming from men.
 
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shrume

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pjharrison said:
As humans we are born by our mothers egg and our fathers sperm. There was neither in this case. Mary was his earthly mother.
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Yes, Mary was his earthly mother. Jesus came from her egg.

Jesus came also to die for Mary. He was also her master.
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That is correct.

Are you Catholic?
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No.
 
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DevotiontoBible

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shrume said:
Because a child is conceived when a sperm (seed) impregnates an egg. Both are required. But the seed comes from the father.

I think there are only two occurrences in the Bible where women are said to have seed. One is in Genesis 3:15, the first promise of the coming Messiah. I believe it's an allusion to the virgin birth, because women do not have seed, they provide eggs. The second is in Revelation 12. The woman in Rev 12:17 is metaphorical for Israel.

I believe every other time in the Bible where seed is mentioned, it is referring to men, or coming from men.
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The fact is it is 50/50, father /mother. 50% dna father and 50% mother dna.
 
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shrume

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DevotiontoBible said:
Luke gives Jesus' genealogy from Mary's line. It was her egg then.
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I believe Matthew gives Jesus' genealogy through Mary, and Luke through Joseph (Mary's husband, Jesus' stepfather).
 
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pjharrison

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DevotiontoBible said:
Luke gives Jesus' genealogy from Mary's line. It was her egg then.
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It's just that those where Gods chosen people and he wanted Jesus to be born into that lineage. God could have chosen any virgin in that lineage , but he chose Mary. It wasn't her egg it was her body.
 
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pjharrison said:
It's just that those where Gods chosen people and he wanted Jesus to be born into that lineage. God could have chosen any virgin in that lineage , but he chose Mary. It wasn't her egg it was her body.
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Then why wasn't Jesus born out of her colon or nose if it wasn't her egg?
 
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pjharrison

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DevotiontoBible said:
Then why wasn't Jesus born out of her colon or nose if it wasn't her egg?
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DevotiontoBible said:
Then why wasn't Jesus born out of her colon or nose if it wasn't her egg?
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I don't get why you don't understand. Are do you just not want to be wrong. He was born through her womb, but it was a virgin birth. Gods seed., not Adams. If it would have been Adam's seed, Jesus would have been just like us.
 
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