MOSES ON MOUNT SINAI
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No site purporting to be CHRISTIAN ought to give unbelieving heretics a free reign to teach their perfidious doctrine . . .
"A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself" (Titus 3:10-11).
Either the Bible is the foundation of Christian truth or it is rejected. I'd prefer to reject the heretic, and not the Bible.
It isn't my job to decide who should or should not post here -- that is the moderators job -- be I have every right to name them.
"A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself" (Titus 3:10-11).
Either the Bible is the foundation of Christian truth or it is rejected. I'd prefer to reject the heretic, and not the Bible.
It isn't my job to decide who should or should not post here -- that is the moderators job -- be I have every right to name them.
How do you use this fact in your witnessing? I like to use the serpent in the wilderness and then point out that Christ is the anti-type of that serpent and all the lost sinner need do is 'look and live.'
It is also effective to show a crucifix (with Christ hanging on the cross), and then flip the cross over to show the serpent on the pole, and then flip the cross again without Christ on it and explain that the Christian cross is empty due to the resurrection, and not still a dead body hanging on the crucifix as the Catholics like to believe.
It is also effective to show a crucifix (with Christ hanging on the cross), and then flip the cross over to show the serpent on the pole, and then flip the cross again without Christ on it and explain that the Christian cross is empty due to the resurrection, and not still a dead body hanging on the crucifix as the Catholics like to believe.
A "real" Christian in respect to Christ, not Calvin..... he is dead asleep .
Throughout the bible blood and water are used as metaphors in various parables to represent the pouring out of His Spirit. The unseen work of the lamb of God slain from the before the foundation of the world . The one time demonstration using blood which Christ said did not profit for nothing was used as a one time outward demonstration.
God who is not a man as us remains in His Holy unseen place as our invisible God. Some false teacher say his flesh and blood did profit as if God was a man as us.
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? (or offence saying as in who who would want to hear it... put on some ear plugs) When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.But there are some of you that believe not. (no faith) For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words (not flesh and blood) of eternal life.John6: 61-68
Find the spiritual meaning hid in the parable "drink my blood" then you can continue to walk with Christ .This is unlike those who hoped literal blood without the unseen work of the Spirit should profit more than a outward demonstration. From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him
"Hint" the spiritual meaning for "drink blood" is found in the Old testament
Throughout the bible blood and water are used as metaphors in various parables to represent the pouring out of His Spirit. The unseen work of the lamb of God slain from the before the foundation of the world . The one time demonstration using blood which Christ said did not profit for nothing was used as a one time outward demonstration.
God who is not a man as us remains in His Holy unseen place as our invisible God. Some false teacher say his flesh and blood did profit as if God was a man as us.
Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? (or offence saying as in who who would want to hear it... put on some ear plugs) When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.But there are some of you that believe not. (no faith) For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words (not flesh and blood) of eternal life.John6: 61-68
Find the spiritual meaning hid in the parable "drink my blood" then you can continue to walk with Christ .This is unlike those who hoped literal blood without the unseen work of the Spirit should profit more than a outward demonstration. From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him
"Hint" the spiritual meaning for "drink blood" is found in the Old testament
That's fine . . . you cling to your view and I'll trust in the literal shed Blood of Jesus Christ and we'll see who is still standing at the end.
One false preacher of the 50's-70-s Robert Thieme insisted that the Blood of Jesus Christ was no more efficacious than a chicken's blood. The same belief is held by John MacArthur of 'Grace to You.'
One false preacher of the 50's-70-s Robert Thieme insisted that the Blood of Jesus Christ was no more efficacious than a chicken's blood. The same belief is held by John MacArthur of 'Grace to You.'
I just used the Seven Feasts of Moses as an opening with my Jewish Lawyer just last week, with some other facts. Actually I think I used all three (Flood, feasts, Moses) last month in an elevator packed with lawyers. No I'm not kidding.
I take special care with Israelites in order to not offend them. I use the OT as a starting point without exception.
I take special care with Israelites in order to not offend them. I use the OT as a starting point without exception.
Christ as the Son of man said it (his flesh and blood) does not profit for nothing, zero. Making it non efficacious.
Not any more or less efficacious than chicken blood. Its the unseen Spirit of Christ that can quicken our souls and gives us his hidden understanding.
Its what parables are designed to do reveal his mysteries to the new creatures concealing the spiritual understanding from natural unconverted man (no faith)
Not any more or less efficacious than chicken blood. Its the unseen Spirit of Christ that can quicken our souls and gives us his hidden understanding.
Its what parables are designed to do reveal his mysteries to the new creatures concealing the spiritual understanding from natural unconverted man (no faith)
Who demands figurative? What is the prescription for understanding the figurative as parables ?
That is not how I come to my conclusion. But rather I compare as a parable.... seeing without parables Christ spoke, the things of men seen, the temporal. Compared to the things not seen, the things of God, the eternal .
According to the 20/20 prescription given below
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corithians 4:18
That is not how I come to my conclusion. But rather I compare as a parable.... seeing without parables Christ spoke, the things of men seen, the temporal. Compared to the things not seen, the things of God, the eternal .
According to the 20/20 prescription given below
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Corithians 4:18
@preacher4truth is going to kick you out of the Calvinist church with those heretical views.
Why do you say John the Baptist, who God gave us to pave the way to Christ, was "Jewish". Christ was Jewish, Paul was Jewish, God used the Jews to tell the world about His ways.
When scripture speaks of water baptism, it is baptism without the Holy Spirit. John the Baptist told us in Luke 3:16 John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. There is nothing here about the message being racial. This is not word from the Jewish traditions that we should not go by any more than we should go by the gentile traditions that are from men not God.
We are told that nothing we do is a requirement for salvation, that is based on faith alone. But as James points out so well, when we have faith in the words of our Lord it results in our following that faith with actions. Faith without any actions following is (as James puts it) is dead. It isn't required, but saying no to what God tells us is from a lack of faith in the word of God.
When scripture speaks of water baptism, it is baptism without the Holy Spirit. John the Baptist told us in Luke 3:16 John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. There is nothing here about the message being racial. This is not word from the Jewish traditions that we should not go by any more than we should go by the gentile traditions that are from men not God.
We are told that nothing we do is a requirement for salvation, that is based on faith alone. But as James points out so well, when we have faith in the words of our Lord it results in our following that faith with actions. Faith without any actions following is (as James puts it) is dead. It isn't required, but saying no to what God tells us is from a lack of faith in the word of God.
John's baptism was not Christian baptism . . .
"And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Acts 19:3-5).
This is where "Baptists" formerly "anabaptists" got the reputation of being 're-baptizers'.
These followers of John were re-baptized when they became followers of Christ.
"And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Acts 19:3-5).
This is where "Baptists" formerly "anabaptists" got the reputation of being 're-baptizers'.
These followers of John were re-baptized when they became followers of Christ.
Calvin's dead asleep like all the saints that leave this realm under the Sun.
Preacher would first have to define the word heresy as to how it is used in the Bible or he could be kicking his own self out. Are you @preacher4truthist? I think he can speak an offer his own kind of heresy
What about your own self? Did the flesh and blood of the Son of man profit for something?
"Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission" (Hebrews 9:21-22).
Looks real enough to me . . . you can't really sprinkle a metaphor.
Without shedding of blood is no salvation for you . . .
Looks real enough to me . . . you can't really sprinkle a metaphor.
Without shedding of blood is no salvation for you . . .
I agree that John's baptism is as John explained, a baptism of repentance. Christ's baptism is a baptism of the spirit. It is the baptism we are to use.
It is using words in the wrong way if we say that what God ordained, as God ordained John, is not Christian, it is giving the wrong impression, even if it is based on truth. It comes very close to giving the impression to babies in the word that they cannot depend on the words of the Lord. The Lord wants us to read of John and understand.
It is using words in the wrong way if we say that what God ordained, as God ordained John, is not Christian, it is giving the wrong impression, even if it is based on truth. It comes very close to giving the impression to babies in the word that they cannot depend on the words of the Lord. The Lord wants us to read of John and understand.